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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
well we've had a rethink...
http://www.turnerbikes.com/TNT/index.html Its a helluva turn-around, but it wouldn't stop me from buying another Turner. Steve. |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
"spademan o---[) *" wrote in message oups.com... well we've had a rethink... http://www.turnerbikes.com/TNT/index.html Its a helluva turn-around, but it wouldn't stop me from buying another Turner. By your post I was worried that they were going to license that VVP crap. I'm going to switch to Ventana next bike, anyway, which is similar to Turner's new setup so no biggie. Greg |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
G.T. wrote: "spademan o---[) *" wrote in message oups.com... well we've had a rethink... http://www.turnerbikes.com/TNT/index.html Its a helluva turn-around, but it wouldn't stop me from buying another Turner. By your post I was worried that they were going to license that VVP crap. I'm going to switch to Ventana next bike, anyway, which is similar to Turner's new setup so no biggie. Greg Why the switch? /s |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
wrote in message oups.com... G.T. wrote: "spademan o---[) *" wrote in message oups.com... well we've had a rethink... http://www.turnerbikes.com/TNT/index.html Its a helluva turn-around, but it wouldn't stop me from buying another Turner. By your post I was worried that they were going to license that VVP crap. I'm going to switch to Ventana next bike, anyway, which is similar to Turner's new setup so no biggie. Greg Why the switch? It won't be for a very long time unless I win the lottery so by that time it may be something other than the Ventana. But right now I would get the Ventana X-5 over my current Turner 5 Spot because of the better top-tube junk clearance, pivot bearings, and a slightly shorter wheelbase. Greg |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
G.T. wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... G.T. wrote: "spademan o---[) *" wrote in message egroups.com... well we've had a rethink... http://www.turnerbikes.com/TNT/index.html Its a helluva turn-around, but it wouldn't stop me from buying another Turner. By your post I was worried that they were going to license that VVP crap. I'm going to switch to Ventana next bike, anyway, which is similar to Turner's new setup so no biggie. Greg Why the switch? It won't be for a very long time unless I win the lottery so by that time it may be something other than the Ventana. But right now I would get the Ventana X-5 over my current Turner 5 Spot because of the better top-tube junk clearance, pivot bearings, and a slightly shorter wheelbase. Greg Greg, I love my Ventana and was under similar influence as you when I bought it. I can't compare it to the Turner because I have no experience with that ride, but the El Saltamontes is all he promised it would be -- Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado Owner/Operator of the Pekingnese Ranch. |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
Per Chris Phillipo:
Is the title of the video "How to move the horst link to an area that doesn't infringe on Specialized's patent."? I would like to know why there is no orange derailleur hanger in the comparison. Which begs the question: has anybody heard how iDrive's infringement suit against Maverick came out? -- PeteCresswell |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
A lot of people have being saying they will switch to Ventana, they see
no reason to stay with Turner if they drop the horst-link. Personally I've no blind loyalty but my RFX has done everything I wanted it to. I've never had a problem with the bushings, and I've absoloutely no desire to change it after 4 years. When (if) the time comes for replacement another Turner will be top of the list. |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
"spademan o---[) *" wrote in message oups.com... A lot of people have being saying they will switch to Ventana, they see no reason to stay with Turner if they drop the horst-link. Personally I've no blind loyalty but my RFX has done everything I wanted it to. I've never had a problem with the bushings, and I've absoloutely no desire to change it after 4 years. When (if) the time comes for replacement another Turner will be top of the list. I'm sure it will be another 3 or 4 years before I start thinking about a replacement. Greg |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
G.T. wrote:
"spademan o---[) *" wrote in message oups.com... A lot of people have being saying they will switch to Ventana, they see no reason to stay with Turner if they drop the horst-link. Personally I've no blind loyalty but my RFX has done everything I wanted it to. I've never had a problem with the bushings, and I've absoloutely no desire to change it after 4 years. When (if) the time comes for replacement another Turner will be top of the list. I'm sure it will be another 3 or 4 years before I start thinking about a replacement. Greg I was just thinking about this last evening while cleaning and lubing. My Ventana has 2 hard years on it, one or two scratches , several derailure hangers, and is riding great. No thoughts of replacement anytime soon. I love the way the bike rides, it fits my style, or lack-there-of. Do I have to ride this forever? Can I get it repainted at some point in time? Is it is poor taste to replace the head badge? Next time I'm buying a Tomac, my buddies who have ridden them get a new bike every year. -- Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado Owner/Operator of the Pekingnese Ranch. |
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Turner, so errm you know that horst link we said was invaluable
(PeteCresswell) wrote: Per Chris Phillipo: Is the title of the video "How to move the horst link to an area that doesn't infringe on Specialized's patent."? I would like to know why there is no orange derailleur hanger in the comparison. Which begs the question: has anybody heard how iDrive's infringement suit against Maverick came out? -- PeteCresswell From the pages of Bicycle Retailer JULY 02, 2004 -- MADISON, WI (BRAIN)--Maverick American, Pacific Cycle and Trek Bicycle amicably resolved their lawsuits concerning claims of patent infringement. In the lawsuits, Pacific alleged that Maverick's ML7 and Trek's Klein Palomino infringe its patent, "Bicycle with Crank Assembly Suspension System." In turn, Trek claimed that Pacific's I-Drive bicycles infringe its patent, "Suspension System for a Bicycle Having a Y Shaped Frame." Under the settlement, Pacific licensed the use of its patent to Maverick for use on its ML7 frame and to Trek for use on Klein's Palomino. Trek also agreed to license its Y-shaped frame patent to Pacific. All parties stated, in a press release, that they agreed to provide no further public comment. The royalty rate and other terms of the licenses are confidential, the press release said. R |
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