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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"SMS" wrote in message ... On 04/06/10 8:25 PM, Bill Weir wrote: snip Wrong. Mike has said it was ok for horses to use said trails. Get your facts straight before you speak for the inmate. And the issue was never about trail damage since horses do far more damage to the trails than mountain bikes, and hikers with lug sole boots also damage the trails, and destroy plants and wildlife. It's always the attitude that "hikers were here first so we should have exclusive use of the trails because it's unpleasant to have to be on the lookout for mountain bikers. Regardless of who was first, the fact is that hikers and bikers do not use trails in the same way. They cannot coexist because of that. Personally, what I'd like to see for mountain bikes is something similar to what some lakes and reservoirs do in regards to alternating access for self-powered and motorized boats (actually non-motorized boats are legal any time but you really don't want to be out there with those crazies). While it would be better for me if they banned all motor boats, I recognize that the world does not revolve around kayakers and canoeists, and that as much as I dislike motor boats, they should be able to use the water too. They did ban two cycle engines on motor boats on a lot of lakes and reservoirs, which lowered the noise level and the pollution of air and water. We can't all be using the same resource in different ways. Each use must have a set-aside strictly for that use. It is absolutely insane to think that hikers and bikers have anything in common. We use trails differently. Therefore, each has to have their own trails. I don't much like horses on hiking trails either, but there are so few that I can abide them. Also, horses do not destroy the tranquility of my trail use, whereas bikers do. That is really what it is all about with me. I am not a purist like Mr. Vandeman. I will now only hike in designated Wilderness Areas because bicycles are absolutely banned from them. Thank God for that! A bicycle on a hiking trail ruins everything for me. It makes me wish I had stayed at home. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
On Jun 5, 12:50*am, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
It makes me wish I had stayed at home. From the amount of posting you have done in the last 7 years (almost 33,000 posts) it's pretty clear that staying home is all you do. I doubt you hike, bike or do much of anything beside trolling. |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... "Moi-aussi" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... "Moi-aussi" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:14:18 -0500, "Edward Dolan" wrote: Moi-aussi (a coward and a scoundrel who hides behind a user name) wrote about himself: Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on these newsgroups telling us where he stands and why. Obviously demented. You make that sound like a good thing. LOL Pity the poor schlub whose job it is to mine those posts for evidence of Vandeman's inability to reason. Maybe the prosecutor will print out the most damning bits and wheel them into court ala Hannibal Lector. :-) There is everything wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. It is the mountain bikers who are forever pointing out his lack of reasoning ability. So you align yourself with a man who assaults people with a hand saw? Is that the case? Do you have the guts to answer this question? If so, you are an even bigger idiot than Mike. Moi-aussi (a coward and a scoundrel who hides behind a user name) wrote about himself: I align myself with the only person on these newsgroups who has his head up his ass. I need to get myself a brain. As it is, I am now the biggest fool on these groups.. My Mind Numbing Stupidity allows me to stoop as low as a dog turd in the grass, which is what I aspire to be as valuable as. I see you couldn't bring yourself to answer the question. Let me ask again: Do you support attacking mountain bikers? A simple yes or no is all that is needed. I know you won't, but that is to be expected. **** you asshole! Oh darn, you win! The above will be my standard response to you from now on. Get used to it because that is all you are ever going to get. You are quite amusing. And you are pathetic, but I knew that from day one. Whatever will I do? Ed Dolan, the great atrophied conglomerate of degenerate neurons, thinks I am pathetic. Woe and treachery! I am slain. ****ing Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota Oh yah? You smell bad and your mother dresses you funny! Neener, neener, neener!!!! Neener!!!!!!!! |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... "Bill Weir" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 10:19 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Mr. Vandeman and I do not want "trail access for different groups of trail users." We want hiking trails for hikers only. Take your consensus and shove it up your ass! Wrong. Mike has said it was ok for horses to use said trails. Get your facts straight before you speak for the inmate. Yes, we have to allow horses, although in an ideal world horses would have their own trails. Horses and hikers mix OK provided there are not too many horses. It is expensive to keep horses in our generation, so there are never very many horses. I have hiked thousands of miles on hiking trails and have encountered horse parties only rarely. On the other hand, mountain bikers proliferate worse than locusts. We do not need them on hiking trails. It is a conflicting use of a scarce resource. Mountain bikers need their own trails. I would not object to that at all. Maybe Mr. Vandeman would, but I would not. Oooooh! Do I see some distancing going on here? Clever lad! Regards, Ed Dolan attempting the cleaner slate - Minnesota aka Snot Edward the Sewer Grate - Order of the Perpetual Wheelbarrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"Bill Weir" wrote in message ... On Jun 5, 12:50 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: It makes me wish I had stayed at home. From the amount of posting you have done in the last 7 years (almost 33,000 posts) it's pretty clear that staying home is all you do. I doubt you hike, bike or do much of anything beside trolling. I will admit my hiking days are almost over. I still bike a lot (recumbents), but only on paved surfaces. Also, my many cats keep me hopping. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"Moi-aussi" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message ... "Bill Weir" wrote in message ... On Jun 4, 10:19 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Mr. Vandeman and I do not want "trail access for different groups of trail users." We want hiking trails for hikers only. Take your consensus and shove it up your ass! Wrong. Mike has said it was ok for horses to use said trails. Get your facts straight before you speak for the inmate. Yes, we have to allow horses, although in an ideal world horses would have their own trails. Horses and hikers mix OK provided there are not too many horses. It is expensive to keep horses in our generation, so there are never very many horses. I have hiked thousands of miles on hiking trails and have encountered horse parties only rarely. On the other hand, mountain bikers proliferate worse than locusts. We do not need them on hiking trails. It is a conflicting use of a scarce resource. Mountain bikers need their own trails. I would not object to that at all. Maybe Mr. Vandeman would, but I would not. Oooooh! Do I see some distancing going on here? Clever lad! Mr. Vandeman and I are not in perfect synch and never have been. If you would read more carefully instead of giving us nothing but knee jerk reactions, you would know that. Mr. Vandeman is an optimist and thinks he can save the world, but I KNOW the world is going to Hell and nothing can save it, not even a Second Coming! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
On Jun 5, 12:44*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
I will admit my hiking days are almost over. Which makes you unqualified to comment on the topic. End of discussion. |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"Bruce Jensen" wrote in message ... On Jun 5, 12:44 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: I will admit my hiking days are almost over. Which makes you unqualified to comment on the topic. End of discussion. Nope, I spent 10 years doing nothing but hiking full time year around. But back then (1965-75) the world was not so full of fools as it is today. This discussion needs perspective and that is what I am here for. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
On Jun 3, 10:29*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Moi-aussi" wrote in message ... "Edward Dolan" wrote in message . .. wrote in message . .. On Thu, 3 Jun 2010 14:14:18 -0500, "Edward Dolan" wrote: Mr. Vandeman must have posted at least 10,000 messages on these newsgroups telling us where he stands and why. You make that sound like a good thing. LOL *Pity the poor schlub whose job it is to mine those posts for evidence of Vandeman's inability to reason. Maybe the prosecutor will print out the most damning bits and wheel them into court ala Hannibal Lector. * :-) There is nothing wrong with Mr. Vandeman's reasoning. Au contraire, it is the idiot mountain bikers who are forever displaying a lack of reasoning ability. So you align yourself with a man who assaults people with a hand saw? Is that the case? Do you have the guts to answer this question? If so, you are an even bigger idiot than Mike. I align myself with the only person on these newsgroups who has a brain in his head. You should try to get one yourself. As it is, you are almost too big an idiot even for me. I said "almost", but my Greatness allows me to stoop as low as a snake in the grass, which is what you are. I understand that mountain biking is prohibited on this trail, but it probably never occurred to the legislature to pass a law to prohibit that hiking with a saw in hand. That begs some questions. What was Mike doing with a saw anyway? I am reasonably certain that it is illegal to play lumberjack in those woods, so isn't it reasonable to assume that the saw was likely a premeditated choice of weaponry? What gives Mike Vandeman the right to to assume the role of law enforcement? One can learn a lot about a man by what he does and does not do, be it Mike or you for that matter. The DOES PART here is demonstrated by your blind allegiance to and defense of a psychopathic criminal. and the DOES NOT PART is demonstrated by your inability or unwillingness to condemn an inexcusable and indefensible act of taking the law into one's hand and inflicting injury on a fellow human being. Whether one agrees with Mike Vandeman or not, it is obvious to all that he is passionate about his beliefs. On the other hand, it is also obvious to all, YOU being the ONLY exception, that the course of action chosen constitutes a crime unacceptable in civilized society. What don't you understand about assault (the threat) and battery (the action)? A person is judged by the company one keeps. Your defense of Mike Vandeman, speaks volumes. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Anti-Mountain Bike Advocate Attacks Cyclists With Handsaw
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jun 3, 10:29 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] I align myself with the only person on these newsgroups who has a brain in his head. You should try to get one yourself. As it is, you are almost too big an idiot even for me. I said "almost", but my Greatness allows me to stoop as low as a snake in the grass, which is what you are. I understand that mountain biking is prohibited on this trail, but it probably never occurred to the legislature to pass a law to prohibit that hiking with a saw in hand. That begs some questions. What was Mike doing with a saw anyway? I am reasonably certain that it is illegal to play lumberjack in those woods, so isn't it reasonable to assume that the saw was likely a premeditated choice of weaponry? What gives Mike Vandeman the right to to assume the role of law enforcement? Mr.Vandeman was probably carrying a handsaw to slash the tires of any unattended bicycles he came across on that trail. Yes, it is vandalism, but how else do you communicate anything to criminal mountain bikers. One can learn a lot about a man by what he does and does not do, be it Mike or you for that matter. The DOES PART here is demonstrated by your blind allegiance to and defense of a psychopathic criminal. and the DOES NOT PART is demonstrated by your inability or unwillingness to condemn an inexcusable and indefensible act of taking the law into one's hand and inflicting injury on a fellow human being. He was probably just defending himself from two criminal mountain bikers and used the weapon he had at hand. Whether one agrees with Mike Vandeman or not, it is obvious to all that he is passionate about his beliefs. On the other hand, it is also obvious to all, YOU being the ONLY exception, that the course of action chosen constitutes a crime unacceptable in civilized society. These newsgroups are chock full of human scum mountain bikers who regularly ignore any and all rules that interfere with their cycling on hiking trails. What don't you understand about assault (the threat) and battery (the action)? A person is judged by the company one keeps. Your defense of Mike Vandeman, speaks volumes. Your piling on also speaks volumes. The fact is that no one knows what took place in any detail. It is all surmise. I am willing to let a trial and a jury sort it out, but the human scum mountain bikers on these groups are only too willing to believe guilty as charged. They are a disgrace to civilization! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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