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Old December 9th 10, 12:58 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Ryan Cousineau
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Default Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever

In his own, awesome words:

http://www.alexigrewal.com/index.php...olympics-in-la

" I was not thinking what I could do to help Davis, I was thinking how
I could use the situation to work all my rivals against each other"

"Phinney was wearing a skin suit.... The skinsuit was information I
filed away. Only one pocket was sewn into it and we faced a hot,
hilly two hundred kilometer race. One feed zone per lap on a
downhill, right near the start finish, wearing a skin suit with one
pocket was to rely on the unreliable."

"Two laps to go Davis asks me for food. I lied, said I don’t have
any, I justified it in my mind by thinking I might need it myself."

....and much more, very entertaining stuff, not just about hiding food
from the team leader, but also about his tactical choices, and how he
saw the race.

I did a cursory search, and haven't seen a post in rbr that breaks
down 1984 Olympic road race race to this extent. Grewal's explanation
is as fascinating as it is Machiavellian.

There's more goodies in the rest of the site, including his story of
spitting on the camera man.

I remind you this reinforces my "amateur bike racing is awesome"
theory, since in 1984 this was an amateurs-only race.
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Old December 9th 10, 01:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Default Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever

"That's bike racing"
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Old December 9th 10, 02:10 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article ,
Ryan Cousineau wrote:

In his own, awesome words:

http://www.alexigrewal.com/index.php...he-olympics-in
-la

" I was not thinking what I could do to help Davis, I was thinking how
I could use the situation to work all my rivals against each other"

"Phinney was wearing a skin suit.... The skinsuit was information I
filed away. Only one pocket was sewn into it and we faced a hot,
hilly two hundred kilometer race. One feed zone per lap on a
downhill, right near the start finish, wearing a skin suit with one
pocket was to rely on the unreliable."

"Two laps to go Davis asks me for food. I lied, said I donąt have
any, I justified it in my mind by thinking I might need it myself."

...and much more, very entertaining stuff, not just about hiding food
from the team leader, but also about his tactical choices, and how he
saw the race.

I did a cursory search, and haven't seen a post in rbr that breaks
down 1984 Olympic road race race to this extent. Grewal's explanation
is as fascinating as it is Machiavellian.

There's more goodies in the rest of the site, including his story of
spitting on the camera man.

I remind you this reinforces my "amateur bike racing is awesome"
theory, since in 1984 this was an amateurs-only race.


He did what all top level racers (particularly motorcycle racers) know to do: The
person you most have to beat is your team mate. His explanations of how he did it was
pretty fascinating - the guy did not miss a single thing.
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Old December 9th 10, 02:34 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Dec 8, 6:10*pm, "H. Fred Kveck" wrote:
*Ryan Cousineau wrote:

I did a cursory search, and haven't seen a post in rbr that breaks
down 1984 Olympic road race race to this extent. Grewal's explanation
is as fascinating as it is Machiavellian.


* *He did what all top level racers (particularly motorcycle racers) know to do: The
person you most have to beat is your team mate. His explanations of how he did it was
pretty fascinating - the guy did not miss a single thing.


Damn.
That's intense.
You know it's good when Scottsmack posts up and
just says "wow."

Fredmaster Ben
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Old December 9th 10, 05:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Dec 8, 7:10*pm, "H. Fred Kveck" wrote:
In article ,
*Ryan Cousineau wrote:





In his own, awesome words:


http://www.alexigrewal.com/index.php...uit-aka-the-ol...
-la


" I was not thinking what I could do to help Davis, I was thinking how
I could use the situation to work all my rivals against each other"


"Phinney was wearing a skin suit.... The skinsuit was information I
filed away. *Only one pocket was sewn into it and we faced a hot,
hilly two hundred kilometer race. *One feed zone per lap on a
downhill, right near the start finish, wearing a skin suit with one
pocket was to rely on the unreliable."


"Two laps to go Davis asks me for food. *I lied, said I don t have
any, I justified it in my mind by thinking I might need it myself."


...and much more, very entertaining stuff, not just about hiding food
from the team leader, but also about his tactical choices, and how he
saw the race.


I did a cursory search, and haven't seen a post in rbr that breaks
down 1984 Olympic road race race to this extent. Grewal's explanation
is as fascinating as it is Machiavellian.


There's more goodies in the rest of the site, including his story of
spitting on the camera man.


I remind you this reinforces my "amateur bike racing is awesome"
theory, since in 1984 this was an amateurs-only race.


* *He did what all top level racers (particularly motorcycle racers) know to do: The
person you most have to beat is your team mate. His explanations of how he did it was
pretty fascinating - the guy did not miss a single thing.


Steve Tilford has a comment on time and distance on his blog,
recently.

Addressing the title line: third and fourth finishers, Dag-Otto
Lauritzen and Morten Saether, were teammates riding for Norway.
Morten dragged Dag-Otto to the line and got outsprinted for the last
medal. Dag-Otto went on to a pro contract; Morten rode the Tour of
Texas (amateur) in '86 and I think subsequently went back to school
and got a degree.

The moral of the story: "That's bike racing!".
--D-y
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Old December 9th 10, 11:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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--D-y wrote:
Addressing the title line: third and fourth finishers, Dag-Otto
Lauritzen and Morten Saether, were teammates riding for Norway.
Morten dragged Dag-Otto to the line and got outsprinted for the last
medal. Dag-Otto went on to a pro contract; Morten rode the Tour of
Texas (amateur) in '86 and I think subsequently went back to school
and got a degree.


I know who really won.
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Old December 9th 10, 04:12 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
--D-y
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Default Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever

On Dec 9, 4:05*am, "A. Dumas" wrote:
--D-y wrote:
Addressing the title line: third and fourth finishers, Dag-Otto
Lauritzen and Morten Saether, were teammates riding for Norway.
Morten dragged Dag-Otto to the line and got outsprinted for the last
medal. Dag-Otto went on to a pro contract; Morten rode the Tour of
Texas (amateur) in '86 and I think subsequently went back to school
and got a degree.


I know who really won.


The guy with the most toys at the end?
--D-y
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Old December 9th 10, 12:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
drmofe
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Default Alexi Grewal: worst teammate ever

On Dec 9, 5:05*pm, --D-y wrote:

Addressing the title line: third and fourth finishers, Dag-Otto
Lauritzen and Morten Saether, were teammates riding for Norway.
Morten dragged Dag-Otto to the line and got outsprinted for the last
medal. Dag-Otto went on to a pro contract; Morten rode the Tour of


Dag-Otto Lauritzen was also somewhat famous in Norway for dragging one
L. Armstrong up to the Indurain-driven break on the last lap of World
Champs, Oslo 1993.
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Old December 9th 10, 03:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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On Dec 8, 3:58*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:

I remind you this reinforces my "amateur bike racing is awesome"
theory, since in 1984 this was an amateurs-only race.




Dumbass -

I was too greedy (regarding teamwork) in two races and I regret it
both times. It didn't work out.

It's better to work with or for your teamates.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.
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Old December 9th 10, 03:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Dec 8, 7:07*pm, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."
wrote:
On Dec 8, 3:58*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:



I remind you this reinforces my "amateur bike racing is awesome"
theory, since in 1984 this was an amateurs-only race.


Dumbass -

I was too greedy (regarding teamwork) in two races and I regret it
both times. It didn't work out.

It's better to work with or for your teamates.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


Dumbass,
Which Olympics were those in?
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