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  #11  
Old September 9th 19, 04:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most journeys
in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the "researchers")
might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html





Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises you
sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they seem
to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a pogo
stick, or stilts.

*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes would

not be.


Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK cities", then?

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  #12  
Old September 9th 19, 04:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most journeys
in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the "researchers")
might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html






Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises you
sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they
seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a pogo
stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes would
not be.


Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK cities", then?

GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary


https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...

--
Bod
  #13  
Old September 9th 19, 05:37 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 16:29, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most journeys
in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the "researchers")
might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html





Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises you
sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they seem
to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a pogo
stick, or stilts.

*
* Good job thst scooters can go on pavements as well.


Have you thought up a definition for "gridlocked UK cities" yet?


all types of scooters are not allowed on footways, and electric scooters
are not allowed on the road or the footway, or anywhere other than
privately owned land with the owners permission.
  #14  
Old September 9th 19, 05:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Posts: 10,477
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the "researchers")
might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html







Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises you
sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they
seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a pogo
stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.


Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK cities",
then?

GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary


https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...


Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world example
of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets in
the centre, is it?
  #15  
Old September 9th 19, 06:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Posts: 3,107
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html








Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises you
sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they
seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK cities",
then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...


Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world example
of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets in
the centre, is it?

Get a life.


--
Bod
  #16  
Old September 9th 19, 06:21 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Posts: 10,477
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 18:05, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html









Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises
you sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and
women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they
seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK
cities", then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...


Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world
example of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets in
the centre, is it?

Get a life.


So you post or re-post material without understanding it.

How surprising.

Can *anyone* here give anything other than the most far-fetched real
world example of a "gridlocked UK city"?

No, I didn't think so.

It doesn't say a lot for the "new research", does it?
  #17  
Old September 9th 19, 06:45 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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Posts: 4,531
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 18:21, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:05, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html










Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises
you sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men and
women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular), they
seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK
cities", then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...

Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world
example of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets
in the centre, is it?

*
* Get a life.


So you post or re-post material without understanding it.

How surprising.

Can *anyone* here give anything other than the most far-fetched real
world example of a "gridlocked UK city"?

No, I didn't think so.

It doesn't say a lot for the "new research", does it?


My local area does actually become gridlocked, this has happened about
half a dozen times in ten years or so, if I need to go somewhere local
non-urgently (on these rare days) I walk, if I needed to go further
afield then an electric scooter would not be legal or up to the job,
whereas a motorbike is excellent.
  #18  
Old September 9th 19, 06:56 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bod[_5_]
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Posts: 3,107
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 18:45, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:21, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:05, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html











Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises
you sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men
and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular),
they seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK
cities", then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...

Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world
example of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets
in the centre, is it?
*
* Get a life.


So you post or re-post material without understanding it.

How surprising.

Can *anyone* here give anything other than the most far-fetched real
world example of a "gridlocked UK city"?

No, I didn't think so.

It doesn't say a lot for the "new research", does it?


My local area does actually become gridlocked, this has happened about
half a dozen times in ten years or so, if I need to go somewhere local
non-urgently (on these rare days) I walk, if I needed to go further
afield then an electric scooter would not be legal or up to the job,
whereas a motorbike is excellent.

A bicycle or E bike is even narrower and more manouverable than a

motor bike, plus it does not emit any exhaust fumes.
Also it can be easily wheeled along a pavement when one just can't get
past tightly packed cars/lorries etc.

--
Bod
  #19  
Old September 9th 19, 07:49 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Posts: 10,477
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 18:45, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:21, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:05, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to be
evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html











Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises
you sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men
and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular),
they seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK
cities", then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become so
blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move: 2. a
situation in which no progress ...

Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world
example of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets
in the centre, is it?
*
* Get a life.


So you post or re-post material without understanding it.

How surprising.

Can *anyone* here give anything other than the most far-fetched real
world example of a "gridlocked UK city"?

No, I didn't think so.

It doesn't say a lot for the "new research", does it?


My local area does actually become gridlocked, this has happened about
half a dozen times in ten years or so, if I need to go somewhere local
non-urgently (on these rare days) I walk, if I needed to go further
afield then an electric scooter would not be legal or up to the job,
whereas a motorbike is excellent.


Ah... but is a local area a "city"?

  #20  
Old September 9th 19, 07:50 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
jnugent
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Posts: 10,477
Default Electric scooters 'would beat cars on short journeys and help cutcongestion in UK's gridlocked cities'

On 09/09/2019 18:56, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:45, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:21, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 18:05, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 17:49, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:44, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 16:31, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 14:00, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:57, Bod wrote:
On 09/09/2019 13:51, MrCheerful wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:43, JNugent wrote:
On 09/09/2019 12:25, Bod wrote:

New research has found e-scooters would beat cars on most
journeys in gridlocked UK cities.

There follows a serious question which you (and the
"researchers") might not be able to answer.

What is a "gridlocked UK city"?

Please be as precise as possible in your answer. Try not to
be evasive.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/tran...-a4231841.html












Something else on the roads for grumpy old men to whinge about.

As far as one can reasonably tell, the vehicles whose praises
you sing are used almost exclusively *by* (grumpy?) old men
and women.

At least, that is so in the UK, whether or not in "gridlocked
cities" (whatever they may be).

In certain overseas territories (well, one in particular),
they seem to be used by anyone whose fancy it takes.

But please... don't forget to tell us what a gridlocked city
actually is.


walking will beat cars if there is actual gridlock, as would a
pogo stick, or stilts.
*
* Good job that scooters can go on pavements as well.

* Also, when the roads are gridlocked in London, the bike lanes
would not be.

Still no definition of either "gridlocked" or "gridlocked UK
cities", then?

* GRIDLOCK | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary

https://dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › english › gridlock
gridlock definition: 1. a situation where roads in a town become
so blocked by cars that it is impossible for any traffic to move:
2. a situation in which no progress ...

Can you give anything other than the most far-fetched real world
example of such a UK city?

Don't forget what a city is, of course. It isn't just a few streets
in the centre, is it?
*
* Get a life.

So you post or re-post material without understanding it.

How surprising.

Can *anyone* here give anything other than the most far-fetched real
world example of a "gridlocked UK city"?

No, I didn't think so.

It doesn't say a lot for the "new research", does it?


My local area does actually become gridlocked, this has happened about
half a dozen times in ten years or so, if I need to go somewhere local
non-urgently (on these rare days) I walk, if I needed to go further
afield then an electric scooter would not be legal or up to the job,
whereas a motorbike is excellent.

A bicycle or E bike is even narrower and more manouverable than a

motor bike, plus it does not emit any exhaust fumes.
Also it can be easily wheeled along a pavement when one just can't get
past tightly packed cars/lorries etc.


Have you thought of an example of a gridlocked city (as opposed to a
"local area") yet?
 




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