More cyclists getting in the way

JNugent wrote:

I can't recall anywhere round there that has crossings except the ones at
the light controlled junctions on the A4 and there is no way you would
ride
the wrong way round the South Ken one way system or on the pavements
there.

Just as *if* a cyclist would abuse a pedestrian crossing, ignore a red
traffic light, cycle along the footway or go the wrong way in a one-way
street, eh?

Is your post an example of what another poster called "Confirmation bias"?


Maybe or maybe there just aren't any pedestrian crossings, wide enough
footways or one way streets you can actually cycle the wrong way down
given the density of traffic on them. But Google Maps is out there for
you to point some out if you wish. I'm quite willing to accept my
memory could be faulty if you can find some.

Tony

Mrcheerful wrote:

Cromwell place is the one way street, I believe, which is shown on sky views
of google earth as one way and street view as two way, there are road works
and traffic lights to the left on cromwell road and it was there that the
peds got knocked about by cyclists.



It switched on 16 August 2009. When was your visit?

Surprised you saw any bikes on Cromwell Road. The A4 is two lanes of
fast traffic and not for the feint-hearted cyclist so very few use it IME.

Tony

Trevor A Panther wrote:

Has Tony Ravin ever blamed a cyclist for anything?




Rarely -- if ever!


Why would I here? I'm just playing Devil's Advocate to people who
always blame the cyclist and hardly ever blame the motorist.

Anyway I thought you had me kill-filed so how would you know?

Tony

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 17:06:05 +0100, Tony Raven wrote:

JNugent wrote:
On 30/03/2011 11:34, Tony Raven wrote:

wrote:

when I went to central London recently the endangerment and injury to
pedestrians that I saw all came from cyclists.

You need to go to Specsavers. TfL 2009 figures for Greater London:
Pedestrians injured by cyclists: 78
Pedestrians injured by motor vehicles: 5,049.

Surely his journey to Central (or even Greater) London did not last from
1/1/2009 to 31/12/2009? And yet you expect him to have witnessed every
accident which took place during that calendar year and challenge his
account of what he did see on the bsis that you think he should have
seen more.

Not at all. He claims to have seen endangerment AND injury when he was
there. If he was there for five days, the probability was that there
was just one such injury in the whole of Greater London during that
stay.

And that is absolute ******** - just like most things you say.

I would class that as deliberate lying because you know that it is incorrect.

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"Then back to my club on Pall Mall "

Tony Raven - pretentious tosser

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:10:27 +0100, Tony Raven wrote:

Mrcheerful wrote:

I would challenge anyone to go to the same areas (near V and A museum) on a
warm, bright day and NOT see cyclists ignoring crossings, one way streets
and stop lights and their actual collisions with pedestrians, not to mention
the foul language they are hurling about and of course everyone, even
cyclists would agree that pavement cycling is rife everywhere in the
country.


Could you point to where these crossings and one way streets are that
they ignore near the V&A?

Personally I'd think you need you head examining if you cycle on the
pavements around there. But it will soon all be solved with pavements
and roads going on Exhibition Road to be replaced by a shared pedestrian
and traffic space. I cycle and walk round there a lot and have to say
I've almost never seen what you are claiming. It must be something
about you, Mr Dragon and Mr Nugent that encourages this happening in
your presence.

Tony


Or you have your head up your arse as usual and hence don't see such things.


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"Then back to my club on Pall Mall "

Tony Raven - pretentious tosser

On 30 Mar 2011 19:59:31 GMT, Tony Raven wrote:

Tony Dragon wrote:

I haven't been near the V & A for ages so I don't know what it is like
there, what made you think I have?

I didn't. But I seem to remember both you and JN have complained of
frequently being hit by cyclists in London. BICBW


Oh right - more of your wonderful statistics - all cycling accidents happen near the V&A do they?

What a tosser.


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"Then back to my club on Pall Mall "

Tony Raven - pretentious tosser

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 05:09:01 -0700 (PDT), PhilO wrote:

On Mar 30, 9:13*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:

when I went to central London recently the endangerment and injury to
pedestrians that I saw all came from cyclists.

Really? How many injuries to pedestrians by cyclists did you see?
You didn't see any endangerment to pedestrians caused by motor
vehicles?
We don't believe you.


Oh "we" eh?

That will be you, Ravin, Simple, and Porky.

Not exactly a representative cross-section of society.

(But ****wits one and all)


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2009 per billion passenger kilometres:

Cyclists Killed or seriously injured : 567
Pedestrians Killed or seriously injured : 415

Which is the safer form of transport?

On 30/03/2011 23:53, Tony Raven wrote:

Trevor A Panther wrote:

Has Tony Ravin ever blamed a cyclist for anything?

Rarely -- if ever!

Why would I here? I'm just playing Devil's Advocate to people who always
blame the cyclist and hardly ever blame the motorist.

Anyway I thought you had me kill-filed so how would you know?

Do you really not know how this usenet thing works?

On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:59:58 +0100, Judith wrote:




Oh right - more of your wonderful statistics - all cycling accidents
happen near the V&A do they?

What a tosser.

Tosser now?
Next in line is the esteemed honour of Jerk!!



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On Wed, 30 Mar 2011 23:37:28 +0100, Judith wrote:




I really wonder if you believe this ****e that you post?

Do you really believe that there is only one accident between a
pedestrian and a cyclist only once every five days in the whole of
London?

You are getting just like Porky Chapman and his little piglets - not
exactly lies but as close as can be.

Hagfish Myxine glutinosa

This extraordinary fish can literally tie itself in knots and it does so
regularly as a means of ridding itself of excess slime. Special slime-
exuding pores run along both sides of the eel-like body, enabling it to
produce sufficient slime to fill a bucket in a matter of minutes. The
glutinous slime is usually more than adequate to deter most predators.


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