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November 10th 04, 04:42 PM
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"Myo Jorn" wrote in message om... The other thing that I have noticed is that two consecutive days with no exercise now seems equal to a 20 year old's year without exercise. Doing at least someting every day - with a down day thrown in when I feel more sore than other days - is really the best for me. If I skip the gym or miss a ride both Saturday and Sunday, then Monday I am barely able to do a sit up. But exercising daily (or almost daily) keeps my knees and other joints quiet, and my posture better, I don't get winded at the top of the stairs, etc, etc. I have seen some training web sites call this the "48-Hour Rule". I am convinced now that regular exercise is as important to aging gracefully as brushing your teeth. Myo (Maggie) wrote in message . com... One thing I have found as I age....I certainly can't participate in some of the things I did when I was young. Now that I have taken an interest in riding a bike I realize that people older than me are doing it. It's a wonderful sport and its age friendly. I remember my father in law riding a bike well into his 70's. So, ok, we have to leave some of the sports we loved behind us....but its nice to know there are age friendly sports still available to us. I tried playing volleyball last summer with a bunch of my daughters friends. )All in their 20's.) They were fine the next day. I was soaking in ben gay. And I was a damn good volley ball player in my twenties. Damn good. It's a little depressing to admit you can't do the same things you could do when you were younger......In some sports you are considered TOO OLD when you hit thirty five. Whoever said age is a state of mind did not try to play volleyball for hours on the beach at age 50 with team members in their twenties. I look forward to enjoying my bike. http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ Don't you mean dentures? Indeed ... I think you're spot on. The 20 year olds can take a nice, long winter break and come back strong in the Spring. If I take a nice long winter break, it takes me to next Fall to return to where I was the previous Fall. The older you are, the more important to stay in shape year-round. I enjoy kicking young riders' butts in February and March when I'm fit as a fiddle and they're flabby. Come May and June, it's payback time and I get humbled. Bob C. 
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#13
November 10th 04, 04:43 PM
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:16:21 -0500, "Roger Zoul"
wrote: I'm sorry, but your thinking is very, very flawwed. You are giving in to this notion that you can't do this or that because of age. It's not true. Sure, you shouldn't, after sitting on your butt for years, expect you get up one day and compete in strong fashion in volleyball against 20 yos. It's silly to even think that. But you can train yourself, re-gain/increase fitness in that sport. Get your weight under control, start weight lifting, and start playing volleyball on a regular basis (don't do marathon sessions as you are getting back into it). You can increase your ability in that sport enough to enjoy it. You may never be on an olympic team, but then again you likely would not have been in your prime, either. In what sport are you too old to particiate in at 35? Are you referring to professionally, against others at any age? Have you ever heard of big George Foreman? Roger, I note you conveniently leave out your age in this discussion. I am a bit older than Maggie and au contraire it is your thinking that is flawed. For a variety of reasons one cannot do some of the things when older that they could do when younger. It is not about sitting on one's derriere or putting on a few pounds, it is about the degeneration of connective tissue, the ravages of age and injury, the onset of diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis (RA), etc. A couple of decades back I worked in a group doing research on RA and one of the physicians, an older German woman, would say whenever she saw a runner "zey vill be in to see me some day." I used to be a decent runner, fast enough to be a good defensive back in football and even get a scholarship offer or two, and I was even faster in the 440 yd and 880 yd distances than the 40's and 100's we ran for football practice. Surgical reconstruction on an ankle, multiple injuries and repairs to the knees, and RA makes it so that running is near to impossible and very high risk for me. But I can kick the butts of most 20 and 30 year olds climbing steep hills on a bicycle. One adapts, adjusts, modifies their physical regimen to work around the ravages of age and experience, they do not risk injuring themselves further to grasp at straws of the past. Live within your limitations, enjoy what you can do, breathe. - rick
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November 10th 04, 05:40 PM
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November 10th 04, 05:49 PM
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Pat wrote:
::: I'm sorry, but your thinking is very, very flawwed. You are giving ::: in to this notion that you can't do this or that because of age. ::: It's not true. Sure, you shouldn't, after sitting on your butt for ::: years, expect you get up one day and compete in strong fashion in ::: volleyball against 20 yos. It's silly to even think that. But you ::: can train yourself, re-gain/increase fitness in that sport. Get ::: your weight under control, start weight lifting, and start playing ::: volleyball on a regular basis (don't do marathon sessions as you ::: are getting back into it). You can increase your ability in that ::: sport enough to enjoy it. You may never be on an olympic team, but ::: then again you likely would not have been in your prime, either. :: :: I have noticed that in practically every post, Maggie mentions her :: age. I wonder why? We have many 70+ year olds in our riding club :: and one 82 year old. Nobody goes around saying, "I'm 50 and...." I :: think Maggie is buying in to age-related stereotypes. :: :: Pat in TX Yes, I noticed it too. But I think she'll get passed it 
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#16
November 10th 04, 05:52 PM
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psycholist wrote:
:: "Maggie" wrote in message :: om... ::: One thing I have found as I age....I certainly can't participate in ::: some of the things I did when I was young. Now that I have taken an ::: interest in riding a bike I realize that people older than me are ::: doing it. It's a wonderful sport and its age friendly. I remember ::: my father in law riding a bike well into his 70's. So, ok, we have ::: to leave some of the sports we loved behind us....but its nice to ::: know there are age friendly sports still available to us. I tried ::: playing volleyball last summer with a bunch of my daughters ::: friends. )All in their 20's.) They were fine the next day. I was ::: soaking in ben gay. And I was a damn good volley ball player in my ::: twenties. Damn good. It's a little depressing to admit you can't do ::: the same things you could do when you were younger......In some ::: sports you are considered TOO OLD when you hit thirty five. ::: Whoever said age is a state of mind did not try to play volleyball ::: for hours on the beach at age 50 with team members in their ::: twenties. I look forward to enjoying my bike. ::: http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ :: :: The human body is a remarkable design with amazing recuperative :: capabilities. After a lifetime of alcoholism, workaholism and :: smoking 2 1/2 packs per day, I got interested in cycling about 12 :: years ago. It gave me incentive to quite smoking and drinking and :: gave me an interest outside of my work. Within a couple of years I :: was doing sub-5 hour centuries. Today I'm 48 and I'm still doing :: sub-5 hour centuries and doing training rides with the guys on the :: local race teams. A dozen years ago I went to bed wheezing each :: night and wondering if I'd die in my sleep 'cuz I had abused myself :: so badly. A couple of weeks ago I had a very thorough cardiac test :: and was told my heart is in better shape than most 20 year olds. :: :: My observations on aging are that a) you do lose a step, as they say :: in basketball. That's assuming you were at a very high level at :: some point. My high level was about 3 years ago. Maggie, if you're :: just getting started, you'll be improving for a good many years :: regardless of your age. b) it gets a little tougher to shed pounds :: when you need to. And c) it gets harder to get motivated to go out :: and ride in the cold of winter. :: :: I've read that it takes ten years for a cyclist to build all the :: capillaries and the whole cardiovascular system they can look :: forward to having if they stick with the sport. Over that ten :: years, there will likely be improvement on a year-to-year basis. :: After that, you're flying all the time! That's very encouraging, Bob.
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November 10th 04, 06:04 PM
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Rick Warner wrote:
:: On Wed, 10 Nov 2004 08:16:21 -0500, "Roger Zoul" :: wrote: :: :: ::: ::: I'm sorry, but your thinking is very, very flawwed. You are giving ::: in to this notion that you can't do this or that because of age. ::: It's not true. Sure, you shouldn't, after sitting on your butt for ::: years, expect you get up one day and compete in strong fashion in ::: volleyball against 20 yos. It's silly to even think that. But you ::: can train yourself, re-gain/increase fitness in that sport. Get ::: your weight under control, start weight lifting, and start playing ::: volleyball on a regular basis (don't do marathon sessions as you ::: are getting back into it). You can increase your ability in that ::: sport enough to enjoy it. You may never be on an olympic team, but ::: then again you likely would not have been in your prime, either. ::: ::: In what sport are you too old to particiate in at 35? Are you ::: referring to professionally, against others at any age? Have you ::: ever heard of big George Foreman? ::: :: :: Roger, :: :: I note you conveniently leave out your age in this discussion. I am :: a bit older than Maggie and au contraire it is your thinking that is :: flawed. I'm 46. I didn't leave my age out on purpose - I didn't really think it was that important because it would only be a data point of one. However, as a matter of fact, I am now in better shape than I've ever been in in my adult life. I'm a type 2 diabetic, too, no meds and in good control. :: For a variety of reasons one cannot do some of the things :: when older that they could do when younger. It is not about sitting :: on one's derriere or putting on a few pounds, it is about the :: degeneration of connective tissue, the ravages of age and injury, the :: onset of diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis (RA), etc. One may not be able to perform at the same level as when younger, but barring such aliments as you describe, one can particapate in many activities taht one could previously do. One cannot expect, as the OP seemed to indicate, to just pick up one day after years of inactivity and resume as if not a day as gone by. One has to work up to it. A couple :: of decades back I worked in a group doing research on RA and one of :: the physicians, an older German woman, would say whenever she saw a :: runner "zey vill be in to see me some day." I used to be a decent :: runner, fast enough to be a good defensive back in football and even :: get a scholarship offer or two, and I was even faster in the 440 yd :: and 880 yd distances than the 40's and 100's we ran for football :: practice. Surgical reconstruction on an ankle, multiple injuries and :: repairs to the knees, and RA makes it so that running is near to :: impossible and very high risk for me. I can understand this and I don't disagree with it. However, I saw no indications of physical limitations of this nature in the OPs post. However, I did see indications of not being active and then suddenly trying to resume a favorite activity from the days of youth. [snip] :: One :: adapts, adjusts, modifies their physical regimen to work around the :: ravages of age and experience, they do not risk injuring themselves :: further to grasp at straws of the past. Live within your :: limitations, enjoy what you can do, breathe. That is good advice for the OP. And I fully agree with you.
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November 10th 04, 06:41 PM
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(Maggie) wrote in message . com...
One thing I have found as I age....I certainly can't participate in some of the things I did when I was young. Now that I have taken an interest in riding a bike I realize that people older than me are doing it. It's a wonderful sport and its age friendly. I remember my father in law riding a bike well into his 70's. So, ok, we have to leave some of the sports we loved behind us....but its nice to know there are age friendly sports still available to us. I tried playing volleyball last summer with a bunch of my daughters friends. )All in their 20's.) They were fine the next day. I was soaking in ben gay. And I was a damn good volley ball player in my twenties. Damn good. It's a little depressing to admit you can't do the same things you could do when you were younger......In some sports you are considered TOO OLD when you hit thirty five. Whoever said age is a state of mind did not try to play volleyball for hours on the beach at age 50 with team members in their twenties. I look forward to enjoying my bike. http://hometown.aol.com/lbuset/ That's just nice perfect day. I assume that everything is just fine for you Maggie. I don't know your american mentality but I do your kinds of believe if life is so perfect from head to toe. You got perfect house. you got perfect car. you got perfect hair. you got perfect chest. you got perfect butt. you got perfect jean. you got perfect shoes. Everything is gergeous and everything is perfect. Life is perfect! Oh I miss one...your bicycling is perfect. YOu seem to not having a bad day huh when the Uncle Sam debt is over 7 $trillion. Pathetic!!!!!
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November 10th 04, 07:16 PM
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November 10th 04, 07:19 PM
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Red Cloud wrote:
That's just nice perfect day. I assume that everything is just fine for you Maggie. I don't know your american mentality but I do your kinds of believe if life is so perfect from head to toe. You got perfect house. you got perfect car. you got perfect hair. you got perfect chest. you got perfect butt. you got perfect jean. you got perfect shoes. Everything is gergeous and everything is perfect. Life is perfect! Oh I miss one...your bicycling is perfect. Yo, Maggie. So how YOU doin'?!? Methinks Red Cloud gottum crush. -- BS (no, really)
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