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Old November 4th 03, 10:54 PM
Klaas Bil
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This device has been patented (number NL 1019905) by
Dutch inventor Jan Helderman. My newspaper had it in their weekly column
"Uitgedacht" (Thought out). As I wrote in the thread 'BC with handle',
the inventor calls it a cyke.

Klaas Bil


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Old November 4th 03, 11:24 PM
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It's like a Segway! But cheaper!
And it wouldn't be a BC wheel anymore with a handle.


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Old November 5th 03, 03:29 AM
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why do they let such stupid stuff get patented?

its kind of counterintuitive realy, since patents were designed to
encourage creativity.

imagine if sombody had patented the splined unicycle hub?
thered be no profile, no onza, no kh, no qu-ax.

on a side note who made the first one?
i know dm made the first production spilned hub, but who made the first
prototype?


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Old November 5th 03, 03:39 AM
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people were playing with these for years, using what was essentialy the
handlebars and forks from a bmx.

how does one go about proving that there was prior art in the public
domain? and having the patent invalidated, i suspect you need a lawyer.
we all know that this didnt invent the thing but how could we invalidate
the patent?..........bascicly we cant, without paying millions in
lawyers fees.

this is a clasic example of why patent law sucks, and would you beleive
that the us is trying to extend patents to include software and
mathamatical methods,ideas and business methods.


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Old November 5th 03, 05:35 PM
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In article st.com,
(evilewan) wrote:

this is a clasic example of why patent law sucks, and would you beleive
that the us is trying to extend patents to include software and
mathamatical methods,ideas and business methods.


And plant species.


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Old November 5th 03, 06:09 PM
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evilewan wrote:
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imagine if sombody had patented the splined unicycle hub?
thered be no profile, no onza, no kh, no qu-ax.
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No qu-ax?? No qu-ax?? I don't know if I could live in a world with no
qu-ax!!

do they even know how ridiculous that name is? Is it "quacks" or
"cue-axe".


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Old November 5th 03, 06:14 PM
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nbrazzi wrote:
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do they even know how ridiculous that name is? Is it "quacks" or
"cue-axe". *



Probably the last one.


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Old November 5th 03, 07:34 PM
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evilewan wrote:
*imagine if sombody had patented the splined unicycle hub?
thered be no profile, no onza, no kh, no qu-ax.*

I haven't looked anything up, but I imagine all the early manufacturers
of splined axles have patents on their designs, including Profile.

These patents, assuming they exist, protect their owners to a certain
extent, and encourage competitors to "innovate" (sorry to use
Microsoft's word) rather than just copy. When they make their own
designs, they may come up with better ones.

Yes, the patent system is flawed, but that does not mean we should do
away with it. I think there will always be gray areas, impossible to
define, when it comes to "new ideas" so it will be hard to make such
laws perfect.


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Old November 6th 03, 08:47 AM
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johnfoss wrote:
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Yes, the patent system is flawed, but that does not mean we should do
away with it.*



could it be possible for the unicyclist community to set up
equivalents
of Gnu or such licences that exist for community software?

bear


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Old November 6th 03, 09:45 AM
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wobbling bear wrote:
*could it be possible for the unicyclist community to set up
equivalents of Gnu or such licences that exist for community
software?*


It's an interesting thought. Maybe it could work. If not, it would be
because in Open Source software the user and developer worlds have large
overlaps. So most if not all developers have an interest themselves in
better software, unlike e.g. Profile who do their development for profit
as opposed to for riding pleasure per se. (But maybe this is an
old-world idea, similar to what Bill Gates must have thought when he
failed to anticipate the rise of Linux.) Also, software seems more
amenable to many small 'home-made' enhancements than e.g. splined
hubs.

Klaas Bil


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