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On 05/02/2016 12:14, John Smith wrote:
JNugent wrote: On 04/02/2016 20:43, John Smith wrote: Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Contract cancer, filth. That's another example of something you never say. Wrong yet again, thicko. 'says the depraved troll who wishes cancer on other peoples' children' (Nugent, 02 February 2016) When have I wished cancer on others' children? Everybody is somebody's child. If they're not your child, they're somebody else's child. Fancy you not knowing that. |
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JNugent wrote:
Fancy a lawyer with three law degrees not spotting that. Wow, thicko is stacking up the lies today.... -- john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons) 'It never gets any easier. You just get faster' (Greg LeMond (1961 - )) |
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JNugent wrote:
On 05/02/2016 12:14, John Smith wrote: JNugent wrote: On 04/02/2016 20:43, John Smith wrote: Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Contract cancer, filth. That's another example of something you never say. Wrong yet again, thicko. 'says the depraved troll who wishes cancer on other peoples' children' (Nugent, 02 February 2016) When have I wished cancer on others' children? Everybody is somebody's child. If they're not your child, they're somebody else's child. Fancy you not knowing that. QED. -- john smith |MA (Hons)|MPhil (Hons)|CAPES (mention très bien)|LLB (Hons) 'It never gets any easier. You just get faster' (Greg LeMond (1961 - )) |
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"JNugent" wrote in message ... On 05/02/2016 08:31, TMS320 wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote: On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Philip Benwell didn't appear to "get away with it" when he got a 12 month sentence. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. You said "Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children". Since 'cyclists' and 'children' are both plural words you're not doing very well by having to cite an example from 8 years ago. There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. Who says it was "deliberate"? Oh, it was you. And does the word "deliberate" appear in the official records for Jason Howard? "This has ruined my life...", he whinged, when caught and facing prosecution... "I didn't know it was an offence...", he wriggled. But even citing that case isn't necessary. Stating case-types in the plural is normal discourse in conversational English. You could could also tell us the proportion of motorists that have received more than a £2,200 fine after mowing a child down. You should have plenty of examples because there will have been about 260 in those 8 years. What? *Deliberately* mowing down a child (which is the situation under discussion)? I have not used the word "deliberate". Answer the question as written. I'd say that that number was a huge... NIL. Wouldn't you? I don't know. Nor do you. The diffrence is that I know I don't know. You don't. |
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On 05/02/2016 19:39, TMS320 wrote:
There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. Who says it was "deliberate"? Oh, it was you. And does the word "deliberate" appear in the official records for Jason Howard? Are you suggesting that the cyclist did not know he was on the pavement, or had been magically transported onto it, against his will? The cyclist chose to, and therefore was, deliberately riding on the pavement. I have no doubt that he had no prior intention of running into anyone or anything, but he deliberately chose a path (pun intended) that was very likely to bring him into close proximity to people. |
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MrCheerful wrote:
On 05/02/2016 19:39, TMS320 wrote: There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. That will be this stream of ****. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...r-cuts-6171717 |
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On 05/02/2016 19:39, TMS320 wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message ... On 05/02/2016 08:31, TMS320 wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message ... On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote: On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35472617 It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Philip Benwell didn't appear to "get away with it" when he got a 12 month sentence. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. You said "Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children". Since 'cyclists' and 'children' are both plural words you're not doing very well by having to cite an example from 8 years ago. There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. Who says it was "deliberate"? Oh, it was you. The circumstances do. He was cycling along a pedestrian footway between the boundaries marked by garden walls and gates and a line of motor vehicles parked at the kerb. It is not - and has not been suggested as - credible that this was anything other than a deliberate action. He could not have been hurtling along the footway (as clearly seen on video evidence) by accident. And does the word "deliberate" appear in the official records for Jason Howard? Does it need to? "This has ruined my life...", he whinged, when caught and facing prosecution... "I didn't know it was an offence...", he wriggled. But even citing that case isn't necessary. Stating case-types in the plural is normal discourse in conversational English. You could could also tell us the proportion of motorists that have received more than a £2,200 fine after mowing a child down. You should have plenty of examples because there will have been about 260 in those 8 years. What? *Deliberately* mowing down a child (which is the situation under discussion)? I have not used the word "deliberate". Yes, you have. It was in the material you quoted. Answer the question as written. That's what I've done. I'd say that that number was a huge... NIL. Wouldn't you? I don't know. Oh. Nor do you. The diffrence is that I know I don't know. You don't. If any driver had deliberately mown down a child during the last eight years, we (and that includes you) would have heard about it. I haven't. Have you? |
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On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:26:39 -0800 (PST), Alycidon wrote:
On Thursday, 4 February 2016 07:24:35 UTC, Alycidon wrote: Good first step. QUOTE: "Sam Jones, CTC Campaign Coordinator, said the case was being looked at by the organisation's Cyclists' Defence Fund, which works to raise awareness of the law relating to cycling and offers help with legal cases. "We're now aware of the Police's reporting of their investigation, and will follow up accordingly. CTC's Cyclist Defence Fund has been in touch with Reginald Scot and we are now looking into how we can help him find justice for this awful incident. Civil case and try and get some compo? I guess that that will be the motive. |
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"JNugent" wrote On 05/02/2016 19:39, TMS320 wrote: "JNugent" wrote in message On 05/02/2016 08:31, TMS320 wrote: "Mrcheerful" wrote in message On 04/02/2016 11:04, Tom Crispin wrote: On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 10:06:06 AM UTC, Mrcheerful wrote: On 03/02/2016 23:48, Tom Crispin wrote: It is time that failing to provide driver details results in a lifetime driving ban. This loophole must be closed. Can you imagine the public outcry if the owner of a bicycle whose vehicle was used to deliberately harm an innocent bystander was allowed to get away with failing to provide the rider's details? I wonder why we have never heard of such a case.. Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children are allowed to get away with a fine, no ban, no jail time. You cannot have it every way. Philip Benwell didn't appear to "get away with it" when he got a 12 month sentence. So the case went through due process and the guilty party brought to account for himself in court? Just a £2,200 fine for Jason Howard, described as a 'vile little man' by the deceased's father. You said "Cyclists that deliberately run into and kill children". Since 'cyclists' and 'children' are both plural words you're not doing very well by having to cite an example from 8 years ago. There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. Who says it was "deliberate"? Oh, it was you. The circumstances do. He was cycling along a pedestrian footway between the boundaries marked by garden walls and gates and a line of motor vehicles parked at the kerb. It is not - and has not been suggested as - credible that this was anything other than a deliberate action. He could not have been hurtling along the footway (as clearly seen on video evidence) by accident. And does the word "deliberate" appear in the official records for Jason Howard? Does it need to? "This has ruined my life...", he whinged, when caught and facing prosecution... "I didn't know it was an offence...", he wriggled. But even citing that case isn't necessary. Stating case-types in the plural is normal discourse in conversational English. You could could also tell us the proportion of motorists that have received more than a £2,200 fine after mowing a child down. You should have plenty of examples because there will have been about 260 in those 8 years. What? *Deliberately* mowing down a child (which is the situation under discussion)? I have not used the word "deliberate". Yes, you have. It was in the material you quoted. Ah, the Nugent rule. Nugent adds some words to a somebody else's older post then claims his added words were written by that person. Answer the question as written. That's what I've done. Checks... I see no examples given of drivers getting fined more £2,200 after mowing a child down. I'd say that that number was a huge... NIL. Wouldn't you? I don't know. Oh. Nor do you. The diffrence is that I know I don't know. You don't. If any driver had deliberately mown down a child during the last eight years, we (and that includes you) would have heard about it. I haven't. Have you? Nugent ducks out again. |
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"MrCheerful" wrote
On 05/02/2016 19:39, TMS320 wrote: There was also the little turd in Lancashire (Preston?) who deliberately rode (at speed) along a footway and mowed down (not too strong a term) a small girl in front of her horrified parents. Who says it was "deliberate"? Oh, it was you. And does the word "deliberate" appear in the official records for Jason Howard? Are you suggesting that the cyclist did not know he was on the pavement, or had been magically transported onto it, against his will? The cyclist chose to, and therefore was, deliberately riding on the pavement. I have no doubt that he had no prior intention of running into anyone or anything, but he deliberately chose a path (pun intended) that was very likely to bring him into close proximity to people. Where are your cases of drivers getting worse punishment than cyclists? |
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