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On 10/1/2017 10:02 AM, Joerg wrote:
Well, we now have a president who understands this stuff. Whether he does something about it is another matter. I doubt Trump understands postage rates any better than he understands African geography. http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/21/africa...rnd/index.html And of course, there are many more topics about which we could say the same. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Sun, 01 Oct 2017 07:02:34 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2017-09-30 17:03, John B. wrote: On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 07:35:34 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-29 18:51, John B. wrote: On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:09:48 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-09-19 07:06, wrote: I'm pretty sensitive to component prices since I have to build everything up from scratch. One thing that has become clear lately is that buying from an on-line store directly is becoming cheaper than buying from Ebay or Amazon. This topped it all: The two paint brushes I ordered from Hong Kong via EBay on Sep-19 were shipped on Sep-20 and arrived on Sep-28, via airmail. For all of $3 including shipping. I couldn't ship them to the other side of town even if I gave them away. Nobody can tell me that there isn't anything lopsided about the conditions that Chinese merchants get versus those that US merchants get. Of course there is. But remember, mail rates are set by the country from which the item is mailed. Or to put it another way, why are U.S. mail rates so high? There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Your argument doesn't hold water. As I have told you (and you can check for your self) postage rates in many countries are lower, in many cases far lower, then those in the U.S. Are we to assume that any and all countries who's postage rates are lower than the U.S. are involved in some sort of international conspiracy to defraud the U.S. Run the numbers. The $3 includes shipping _and_ merchandise. The stuff is also quite bulky, came in a padded envelope large than letter A. Via aircraft. This would be unfair trade practices which can be acted upon by other countries. Just like an aircraft manufacturer just got slapped with a hefty tariff even while a trade agreement was (still) in place. You mean that all countries in the world must increase their postage rates to match the extremely high rates in the U.S. ? Why isn't it even more logical for the U.S. to drop their rates to match those in other countries? This is about subsidies that in effect undermine the economy of other countrides. Same as dumping and there are laws against dumping. There also ought to be laws against "freight charge dumping". Or at least actions. Well, we now have a president who understands this stuff. Whether he does something about it is another matter. I know that you keep saying "subsidy" but is it true? I ask as , I believe, all Asian countries have cheaper postal rates then the U.S. Do you suppose that is a conspiracy to undermine the U.S. shipping industry? Or just another example of the U.S. pricing themselves out of the international economy? -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote:
snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. |
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On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote: snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 9:12:02 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote: snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. China Post DOES pay USPS fees. Up to $1.50 for a one lb package. And they pay USPS MUCH more for packages than they cost to send in China. |
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote: On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote: snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here. China Post operate airplanes? http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html -- Cheers, John B. |
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On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote: On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote: snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here. China Post operate airplanes? They do. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons of electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage sub-$1 postage fes for large packages? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Thursday, October 5, 2017 at 4:55:00 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-10-04 17:42, John B. wrote: On Wed, 04 Oct 2017 10:29:08 -0700, Joerg wrote: On 2017-10-04 09:12, sms wrote: On 9/30/2017 7:35 AM, Joerg wrote: snip There can only be one reason. The Chinese are subsidizing it and the government is paying for a large chunk of operatingh the China Post aircraft or any hired air transport. Wrong. The U.S. is subsidizing it. Almost all of the cost in postal services is in the delivery to individual addresses. So how does China Post operate its aircraft? On three gallons of electrolyte mix? Somehow they manage to arrive here. China Post operate airplanes? They do. https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...irlines-cf-cyz http://www.aircargonews.net/news/air...-contract.html And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons of electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage sub-$1 postage fes for large packages? Not to mention that they are paying USPS MORE to deliver said packages than they charge their own customers to send it here. |
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On 10/5/2017 4:55 PM, Joerg wrote:
snip And the Boeing 747 you see on the picture flies on three gallons of electrolyte mix from Shenzhen to Oakland or how do they manage sub-$1 postage fes for large packages? Read in that article what Qantas is carrying for China Post. A container filled with very small and light packages is going to cost very little per item, even if there are occasional larger packages. BTW, many countries do subsidize their postal services. In the U.S., the value of laws that benefit the USPS are estimated at $18 billion per year. http://fortune.com/2015/03/27/us-postal-service/ |
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