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Old September 9th 17, 03:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
AMuzi
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On 9/8/2017 11:50 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:42:30 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/8/2017 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/8/2017 1:42 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:10:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/7/2017 9:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-7,
AMuzi wrote:



For the life of me, I can't understand why Canada Geese are
a protected species.


They poop all over taxpayers -it's part of The Agenda


I thought that was pigeons :-)



You've never washed goose or loon poop off your car I
assume. Pigeons are more like spotter planes. Geese are the
B1-B of birds.

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Old September 10th 17, 06:43 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:54:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/8/2017 11:50 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:42:30 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/8/2017 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/8/2017 1:42 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:10:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/7/2017 9:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-7,
AMuzi wrote:


For the life of me, I can't understand why Canada Geese are
a protected species.


They poop all over taxpayers -it's part of The Agenda


I thought that was pigeons :-)



You've never washed goose or loon poop off your car I
assume. Pigeons are more like spotter planes. Geese are the
B1-B of birds.


As far as I know the only geese we have here are walkers not fliers so
I've never had problems with the car :-)

Quite a few rural families keep them as "watch dogs" as they are very
territorial and don't seem to be afraid of man or beasts.
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Cheers,

John B.

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Old September 10th 17, 12:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:28:19 -0000 (UTC), Duane
wrote:

John B. wrote:
On Sat, 09 Sep 2017 09:54:27 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/8/2017 11:50 PM, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 08 Sep 2017 14:42:30 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 9/8/2017 11:07 AM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/8/2017 1:42 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:10:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/7/2017 9:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-7,
AMuzi wrote:


For the life of me, I can't understand why Canada Geese are
a protected species.


They poop all over taxpayers -it's part of The Agenda

I thought that was pigeons :-)


You've never washed goose or loon poop off your car I
assume. Pigeons are more like spotter planes. Geese are the
B1-B of birds.


As far as I know the only geese we have here are walkers not fliers so
I've never had problems with the car :-)

Quite a few rural families keep them as "watch dogs" as they are very
territorial and don't seem to be afraid of man or beasts.
--
Cheers,

John B.



Maybe your geese don't have to travel south for the winter.


Well, no. I'd guess one might call them "stay at home geese" :-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Agj96oXDvU
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Cheers,

John B.

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Old September 10th 17, 04:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:07:31 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/8/2017 1:42 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:10:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/7/2017 9:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

One wonders why arson is no longer a capital crime. But hey,
Oregon culture.

One wonders why they don't believe in the value of human life and property. But as you say - Oregon is an entire state of people that must come from San Francisco.

Some man got tired of some deer eating his extremely expensive landscaping and shot two of them with a high powered pellet gun killing them. There was 20 minutes on the news about this being a hate crime that would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In San Francisco this is probably 100 times worse that the knock out robberies that are committed daily. People as old as 86 have been hospitalized and they have clear pictures of the felon and somehow no one can find him. But killing deer is REALLY important.

I don't understand this. My grandfather shot at least one deer a year
probably from the time he was 12 or 13 years old and no one seemed to
complain. I'd guess probably a hundred deer, or more, as if the game
warden was off somewhere else he'd shoot two. Goodness, my father used
to shoot deer and I've shot a few myself.

I can't remember anyone ever getting all fussed up about it.

Unfortunately, our village officials would probably get all fussed up
about it if I shot some of the deer that frequent our yard. I'm tempted,
becasue they decimate our landscaping every winter.


I've never dwelt with deer, other then to shoot them from time to
time, but they are rather shy creatures and I wonder whether some
flags flapping or even random noise might keep them away.

We used to have a doe, with fawn, browsing in our "back field" in the
early mornings or evenings. She was quite aware of what was happening
in our yard - perhaps 200 yds away. If you drove into the yard she
would stand at attention and when you got out of the car she'd run.


Things have changed dramatically in the past 20 years around here. The
deer population has soared, partly because of the suburban growth with
its resulting "edge" habitat, partly because of the decline in hunting's
popularity ("You're going to shoot Bambi???"), partly because we've
removed all the predators.

There are all sorts of useless tips about stringing ribbons from clothes
lines, having old compact discs flashing in the wind, putting bars of
fragrant soap near gardens, spraying Repels-All or other foul-smelling
repellent sprays, using various automated noise makers, etc. We've tried
most of them. Eventually my wife gave up vegetable gardening, and we've
resorted to putting up deer fences and netting over shrubbery for the
entire winter.

We sometimes see as many as five deer who have spent the dawn sleeping
in the woods at the end of our property. Walking in a wooded park,
we've been able to approach within 15 feet of a doe and two fawns before
they trotted off.

One PhD biologist friend works for a nature institute in a major city.
He travels around and consults on deer overpopulation - a concern of his
because deer are decimating populations of rare plants. He helps
organize hunts to cull the herds. I wouldn't be surprised if PETA has
"wanted dead or alive" posters with his photo.

Canada Geese are a similar and perhaps worse problem. 30 years ago we
rarely saw them. Now dozens to hundreds of them crowd any open grassy
area near water, leaving mine fields of droppings, fouling beaches,
polluting water, chasing people during gosling season. They don't even
bother to migrate any more.

But when our local metropark got permission from the state Department of
Natural Resources to reduce its goose population, the animal lovers
attacked the park offices with torches and pitchforks. You'd have
thought the park was killing babies instead of poop-producers.

For the life of me, I can't understand why Canada Geese are a protected
species.


These same people don't have the slightest complaints about killing snakes or lizards. They allow the killing of coyotes or foxes. The ground squirrel population has been completely out of hand for two decades but kill any of those damned Grey Foxes. Around here the only people that seem to understand what's going on are the golfers.
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Old September 11th 17, 02:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
John B.[_3_]
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On Sun, 10 Sep 2017 08:42:48 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Friday, September 8, 2017 at 9:07:31 AM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 9/8/2017 1:42 AM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 22:10:49 -0400, Frank Krygowski
wrote:

On 9/7/2017 9:48 PM, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 08:39:38 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Thursday, September 7, 2017 at 6:14:12 AM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:

One wonders why arson is no longer a capital crime. But hey,
Oregon culture.

One wonders why they don't believe in the value of human life and property. But as you say - Oregon is an entire state of people that must come from San Francisco.

Some man got tired of some deer eating his extremely expensive landscaping and shot two of them with a high powered pellet gun killing them. There was 20 minutes on the news about this being a hate crime that would be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. In San Francisco this is probably 100 times worse that the knock out robberies that are committed daily. People as old as 86 have been hospitalized and they have clear pictures of the felon and somehow no one can find him. But killing deer is REALLY important.

I don't understand this. My grandfather shot at least one deer a year
probably from the time he was 12 or 13 years old and no one seemed to
complain. I'd guess probably a hundred deer, or more, as if the game
warden was off somewhere else he'd shoot two. Goodness, my father used
to shoot deer and I've shot a few myself.

I can't remember anyone ever getting all fussed up about it.

Unfortunately, our village officials would probably get all fussed up
about it if I shot some of the deer that frequent our yard. I'm tempted,
becasue they decimate our landscaping every winter.

I've never dwelt with deer, other then to shoot them from time to
time, but they are rather shy creatures and I wonder whether some
flags flapping or even random noise might keep them away.

We used to have a doe, with fawn, browsing in our "back field" in the
early mornings or evenings. She was quite aware of what was happening
in our yard - perhaps 200 yds away. If you drove into the yard she
would stand at attention and when you got out of the car she'd run.


Things have changed dramatically in the past 20 years around here. The
deer population has soared, partly because of the suburban growth with
its resulting "edge" habitat, partly because of the decline in hunting's
popularity ("You're going to shoot Bambi???"), partly because we've
removed all the predators.

There are all sorts of useless tips about stringing ribbons from clothes
lines, having old compact discs flashing in the wind, putting bars of
fragrant soap near gardens, spraying Repels-All or other foul-smelling
repellent sprays, using various automated noise makers, etc. We've tried
most of them. Eventually my wife gave up vegetable gardening, and we've
resorted to putting up deer fences and netting over shrubbery for the
entire winter.

We sometimes see as many as five deer who have spent the dawn sleeping
in the woods at the end of our property. Walking in a wooded park,
we've been able to approach within 15 feet of a doe and two fawns before
they trotted off.

One PhD biologist friend works for a nature institute in a major city.
He travels around and consults on deer overpopulation - a concern of his
because deer are decimating populations of rare plants. He helps
organize hunts to cull the herds. I wouldn't be surprised if PETA has
"wanted dead or alive" posters with his photo.

Canada Geese are a similar and perhaps worse problem. 30 years ago we
rarely saw them. Now dozens to hundreds of them crowd any open grassy
area near water, leaving mine fields of droppings, fouling beaches,
polluting water, chasing people during gosling season. They don't even
bother to migrate any more.

But when our local metropark got permission from the state Department of
Natural Resources to reduce its goose population, the animal lovers
attacked the park offices with torches and pitchforks. You'd have
thought the park was killing babies instead of poop-producers.

For the life of me, I can't understand why Canada Geese are a protected
species.


These same people don't have the slightest complaints about killing snakes or lizards. They allow the killing of coyotes or foxes. The ground squirrel population has been completely out of hand for two decades but kill any of those damned Grey Foxes. Around here the only people that seem to understand what's going on are the golfers.


It is people that live in condominiums that are the problem. It is
easy to love those cute little animals when you live way up there on
the 10th story.

But when the moles are digging up Your lawn, or the deer are eating up
Your flowers, or the foxes are eating Your chickens, it becomes a
whole different story :-)
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Cheers,

John B.

 




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