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Old August 5th 09, 03:18 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:

http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...stage-891.html


27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:



a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;


b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;


c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;



d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.




28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.



This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:



a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;


b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;


c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.



At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:



1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;


2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;


3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:


4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;


5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.






29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.



These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).



Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.



The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.



These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.



In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.




30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.


The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.



Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:



a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;



b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;



c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.



The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.





31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:



a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;



b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.



For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.






32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.


We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.



It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.



We could go on for a long time with other examples.



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  #2  
Old August 5th 09, 03:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
--D-y
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Default The Solutions

On Aug 4, 9:18*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:

http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...-doping-the-fr...

27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:

a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;

b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;

c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;

d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.

28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.

This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:

a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;

b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;

c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.

At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:

1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;

2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;

3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:

4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;

5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.

29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.

These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).

Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.

The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.

These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.

In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.

30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.

The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.

Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:

a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;

b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;

c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.

The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.

31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:

a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;

b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.

For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.

32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.

We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.

It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.

We could go on for a long time with other examples.


Or, we could test for what we find on the day-- meaning, someone
doesn't all of a sudden come up positive in August for a sample
submitted in June, meanwhile having inconveniently won a Tour de
France stage-- and go on with life. Sample *labels* having a very
short shelf life would be a big, big step here.

Cheaper, less stupid mess.

Hank Aaron, who has a dog in the hunt, had something to say recently
IRT "doping". IMHO an intelligent, well-considered response:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hank_aaron_7

Forgiveness even for the cardinal (ho ho) sin of betting on your own
team, many years removed.
Imagine...
--D-y
  #3  
Old August 5th 09, 09:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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Posts: 9,202
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In article
,
--D-y wrote:

On Aug 4, 9:18*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:

http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...-doping-the-fr...

27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:

a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;

b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;

c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;

d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.

28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.

This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:

a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;

b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;

c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.

At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:

1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;

2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;

3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:

4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;

5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.

29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.

These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).

Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.

The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.

These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.

In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.

30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.

The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.

Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:

a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;

b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;

c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.

The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.

31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:

a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;

b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.

For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.

32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.

We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.

It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.

We could go on for a long time with other examples.


Or, we could test for what we find on the day-- meaning, someone
doesn't all of a sudden come up positive in August for a sample
submitted in June, meanwhile having inconveniently won a Tour de
France stage-- and go on with life. Sample *labels* having a very
short shelf life would be a big, big step here.

Cheaper, less stupid mess.

Hank Aaron, who has a dog in the hunt, had something to say recently
IRT "doping". IMHO an intelligent, well-considered response:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hank_aaron_7

Forgiveness even for the cardinal (ho ho) sin of betting on your own
team, many years removed.
Imagine...


Flush Pete Rose and keep pulling the chain.
Pete Rose did not simply make a `mistake.'
He systematically, consistently bet on
athletic events in violation of the laws
of baseball. But wait, there is mo
Pete Rose paid people to cash Pete Rose's
winning parimutuel tickets; that is tax evasion.
Pete Rose is a convicted felon, and served time in prison.

Meanwhile the NFL `conditionally reinstated' Michael Vick.

Phew! I feel better now.

--
Michael Press
  #4  
Old August 5th 09, 10:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Scott
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Posts: 1,859
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On Aug 5, 8:47*am, --D-y wrote:
On Aug 4, 9:18*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:





Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:


http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...-doping-the-fr...


27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:


a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;


b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;


c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;


d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.


28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.


This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:


a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;


b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;


c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.


At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:


1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;


2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;


3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:


4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;


5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.


29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.


These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).


Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.


The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.


These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.


In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.


30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.


The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.


Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:


a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;


b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;


c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.


The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.


31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:


a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;


b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.


For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.


32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.


We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.


It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.


We could go on for a long time with other examples.


Or, we could test for what we find on the day-- meaning, someone
doesn't all of a sudden come up positive in August for a sample
submitted in June, meanwhile having inconveniently won a Tour de
France stage-- and go on with life. Sample *labels* having a very
short shelf life would be a big, big step here.

Cheaper, less stupid mess.

Hank Aaron, who has a dog in the hunt, had something to say recently
IRT "doping". IMHO an intelligent, well-considered response:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hank_aaron_7

Forgiveness even for the cardinal (ho ho) sin of betting on your own
team, many years removed.
Imagine...
--D-y- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Hank Aaron is a class act, and he's right about Rose, I think. It
doesn't bother me one bit he bet on his team to win. Now, if he'd bet
on them to lose, that'd be different.
  #5  
Old August 6th 09, 12:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
--D-y
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Posts: 1,179
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On Aug 5, 3:33*pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,





*--D-y wrote:
On Aug 4, 9:18*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:


http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...-doping-the-fr....


27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:


a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;


b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;


c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;


d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.


28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.


This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:


a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;


b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;


c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.


At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:


1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;


2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;


3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:


4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;


5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.


29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.


These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).


Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.


The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.


These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.


In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.


30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.


The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.


Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:


a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;


b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;


c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.


The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.


31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:


a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;


b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.


For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.


32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.


We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.


It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.


We could go on for a long time with other examples.


Or, we could test for what we find on the day-- meaning, someone
doesn't all of a sudden come up positive in August for a sample
submitted in June, meanwhile having inconveniently won a Tour de
France stage-- and go on with life. Sample *labels* having a very
short shelf life would be a big, big step here.


Cheaper, less stupid mess.


Hank Aaron, who has a dog in the hunt, had something to say recently
IRT "doping". IMHO an intelligent, well-considered response:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hank_aaron_7


Forgiveness even for the cardinal (ho ho) sin of betting on your own
team, many years removed.
Imagine...


Flush Pete Rose and keep pulling the chain.
Pete Rose did not simply make a `mistake.'
He systematically, consistently bet on
athletic events in violation of the laws
of baseball. But wait, there is mo
Pete Rose paid people to cash Pete Rose's
winning parimutuel tickets; that is tax evasion.
Pete Rose is a convicted felon, and served time in prison.

Meanwhile the NFL `conditionally reinstated' Michael Vick.

Phew! I feel better now.

--
Michael Press


I looked at at least a half-dozen "Pete Rose Scandal" links. Nothing
about systematic betting, nothing IRT tax evasion.
FWIW (not much to anyone except me) I could easily lose any "sympathy"
I have for Rose, as the story most often presented is, he bet on his
team to win.
Which fits with his "Charlie Hustle" personna, and would seem to be
the opposite of fixing games or having any interest in "tampering"
with results except to do his job as player or manager, and *win*
games. Links? --D-y
  #6  
Old August 6th 09, 12:57 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Anton Berlin
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The last three times I was in Vegas Pete Rose was sitting in the
bleacher seats next to Ceasers sports book operations. I never bother
celebs other than to try not to watch them once I've noticed them.
He's a major fatty.
  #7  
Old August 6th 09, 05:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
DA74
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Posts: 409
Default The Solutions

On Aug 5, 4:57*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
The last three times I was in Vegas Pete Rose was sitting in the
bleacher seats next to Ceasers sports book operations. *I never bother
celebs other than to try not to watch them once I've noticed them.
He's a major fatty.


All those super ****ing hot prostitutes in Vegas and the only thing
you notice the last three times is a fellow 50+ fatbody. And you have
to make an effort not to stare at him? You should quit denying your
inner swedish schoolboy and ask Pete out next time.
-DA74
  #8  
Old August 6th 09, 06:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Michael Press
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Posts: 9,202
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In article
,
--D-y wrote:

On Aug 5, 3:33*pm, Michael Press wrote:
In article
,





*--D-y wrote:
On Aug 4, 9:18*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
Nobody posted part of this article but here is what one insider that
struggled with the realities for a decade came to conclude:


http://www.playthegame.org/knowledge...-doping-the-fr...


27. The solutions: Creation of the World Anti-Doping Agency
The success of the Agency will depend on the quality of contributions
from national Governments, which will have to:


a) carry out a preliminary analysis of the IOC's activity in
scientific, legal, technical-sporting and ethical-educational terms,
to gain an idea of its merits but also of its responsibilities,
potential, inability, sincerity of intents and ambiguity;


b) study the spread of doping in a rational manner, both the existing
situation and possible developments in the near future;


c) appoint their own representatives to the Agency on the basis of
competence, honesty and independence from the IOC and from leading
international sports institutions;


d) act to ensure that the strategies drawn up are quickly
implemented.


28. The solutions: The search to improve anti-doping analysis methods
One of the tasks to be performed by the new Agency will be that of
commencing Studies and Research on new anti-doping analysis methods
that can detect in athletes' urine the new pharmacological agents used
and, more generally, that can extend analysis methods beyond urine to
other biological indicators.


This is a task in which the IOC Medical Commission has failed, and we
do not see how it can now help to tackle the problem. This task will
thus be shouldered mainly by Governments. A detailed research
programme must thus be drawn up and rolled out:


a) in conjunction with Universities and Research Institutes;


b) in conjunction with IOC Anti-doping Laboratories, which must
organise specific sectors really dedicated to Research in their own
area of competence;


c) in conjunction with pharmaceutical companies, which can provide
necessary information on the pharmaco-kinetic action of new products
and on their chemical properties.


At this point in time, the most effective actions to be taken appear
to be the following:


1) the intensification of random anti-doping tests;


2) the development of analytical methods capable of identifying
molecules that are modified so as to render them unrecognisable in
anti-doping tests;


3) the use of biological indicators other than urine (e.g. blood,
saliva and hair) to uncover drug-taking methods:


4) the perfecting of new techniques, e.g. IRMS (isotopic ratio mass
spectrometry) to determine whether a given substance (e.g.
testosterone or nandrolone) is of endogenous or exogenous origin;


5) the development of indirect methods based on a longitudinal
examination of biochemical and clinical parameters.


29. The solutions: Campaigns to safeguard sportmen's health
The purpose of anti-doping tests is to demonstrate the presence in
urine of a forbidden substance or of a relative metabolite as proof of
the taking of doping drugs. Many substances are not however detectable
at the present time, so the use of doping substances has increased
dramatically in all parts of the world.


These substances, as already mentioned, include: the erythropoietic
hormone (Epo), the growth hormone (Gh), the insulin growth factor
(Igf).


Starting from the assumption that these substances, administered to
healthy persons in the absence of a pathology, are harmful to one's
health and cause evident physiological alterations, it is possible and
indeed dutiful to safeguard the health of sportsmen and women through
the monitoring of haematic-chemical parameters measured in the blood
or urine.


The International Cycling Union (UCI), the International Skiing
Federation (FIS), the International Biathlon Union (IBU), Italy's
National Olympic Committee (CONI) and the French Sports Ministry have
already begun blood test campaigns to detect indirect signs of the
taking of erythropoietin.


These programmes have proved to be very effective, making it possible
to reduce the use of Epo in endurance specialities. CONI has even
established that Italian sportsmen wishing to take part in the Sidney
Olympics must undergo blood tests, otherwise they will be excluded
from the list of potential participants at the Olympic Games.


In Italy, studies are now being conducted for special blood test
campaigns against the use of Gh and other hormones, in collaboration
with study groups from other countries.


30. The solutions: Agreements with international pharmaceutical
companies
The IOC has been unable (or perhaps unwilling) to dialogue with
Pharmaceutical Companies and seek forms of collaboration to find
solutions to the doping problem, especially for those drugs that
cannot be detected during tests.


The new Agency will have to work in this direction, and it will have
the authority to do so.


Pharmaceutical companies must be asked to:


a) produce drugs in relation to the actual needs of the ill;


b) report to competent authorities (WHO and the Governments of
different countries) any anomalies and suspicions regarding the
increase in demand and consumption;


c) forgo with a great sense of responsibility a portion of their
revenues, receiving as a reward the knowledge that they are helping to
safeguard the health of a large number of youngsters.


The World Anti-doping Agency should steer the actions of single
countries in identifying legislative or regulatory instruments that
might allow a definition of the nature of substances similar to those
included in the IOC lists of doping substances during the registration
phase for new drugs.


31. The solutions: Approval of specific criminal laws
The Agency could pursue another primary objective: that of examining
the legislative situation in different countries to assess the
possibility of:


a) making additions to existing laws on narcotics or on drugs in
general;


b) proposing specific texts on drugs and doping procedures for those
cases in which this is deemed necessary.


For the comparative analysis of different legislative situations,
suitable instruments should be prepared, where they are not already
present in single systems, to foster the prevention of specific crimes
relating to the international trafficking of doping substances.


32. The solutions: International cooperation among magistrates
The present report has repeatedly referred to the international
dimension of the doping phenomenon. The seizure of doping drugs and
several investigations in France, Italy and Belgium show without a
shadow of a doubt that the trafficking of these substances transcends
national borders.


We have also mentioned the continuing spread of sales via the
Internet, giving rise to orders and deliveries that escape all
controls.


It should be added that the life of sportsmen and women is one of
constant travelling, especially for those in the top flight. Sportsmen
are often accompanied on their trips by coaches, masseurs or
physiotherapists, physicians and federal officials. In this nomadic
existence, doping "runners" are hired from the circles of organised
crime. An Italian professional cyclist, was for example recently
arrested in France for the trafficking of huge amounts of Igfl from
Mexico to Europe. And a Moroccan top athlete was recently arrested in
Italy after becoming involved in the international trafficking of
enormous quantities of doping substances.


We could go on for a long time with other examples.


Or, we could test for what we find on the day-- meaning, someone
doesn't all of a sudden come up positive in August for a sample
submitted in June, meanwhile having inconveniently won a Tour de
France stage-- and go on with life. Sample *labels* having a very
short shelf life would be a big, big step here.


Cheaper, less stupid mess.


Hank Aaron, who has a dog in the hunt, had something to say recently
IRT "doping". IMHO an intelligent, well-considered response:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090805/ap_on_sp_ba_ne/bbo_hank_aaron_7


Forgiveness even for the cardinal (ho ho) sin of betting on your own
team, many years removed.
Imagine...


Flush Pete Rose and keep pulling the chain.
Pete Rose did not simply make a `mistake.'
He systematically, consistently bet on
athletic events in violation of the laws
of baseball. But wait, there is mo
Pete Rose paid people to cash Pete Rose's
winning parimutuel tickets; that is tax evasion.
Pete Rose is a convicted felon, and served time in prison.

Meanwhile the NFL `conditionally reinstated' Michael Vick.

Phew! I feel better now.


I looked at at least a half-dozen "Pete Rose Scandal" links. Nothing
about systematic betting, nothing IRT tax evasion.


You could always try Pete Rose in Wikipedia.

FWIW (not much to anyone except me) I could easily lose any "sympathy"
I have for Rose, as the story most often presented is, he bet on his
team to win.
Which fits with his "Charlie Hustle" personna, and would seem to be
the opposite of fixing games or having any interest in "tampering"
with results except to do his job as player or manager, and *win*
games. Links? --D-y


--
Michael Press
 




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