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Old November 10th 07, 10:30 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Jeff Grippe
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Default Anyone ride through the 1st Ave tunnel by the UN?


"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!


It's very interesting that you should say that again. I have joined a Yahoo
newsgroup where top posting is pretty much the way it is done. Everyone
seems to top post all the time. I don't think that they are all idiots but
you never can tell.

Any progress being made on your various infirmities from your trike
accident? Enough time has now passed so that you should be getting a fix
on what your prospects are.


Well since you asked,

I have decided not to have back surgery for pain. I've talked to many people
that have had it and nobody has had just one. I don't want to start down a
road of surgery after surgery. All the people I've talked to (about 4) say
the same thing. The surgery works for a while and then the pain returns.

But I thought that I had to do something so last month I had a gastric
bypass. I expect that over the next year or so I'll take off the 100 or so
extra pounds that I'm carrying (I'm down over 20 already). My pain doc says
that every pound
I take off is like taking 3 off my back.

It is unclear if I will be able to cycle again and enjoy it. There are some
physical problems on my right side that make cycling unpleasent after a
while. When I think about trying to cycle again I'm going to need to find a
pedal system that lets me press with my heel instead of my toe. That will
allow me to avoid the unpleasent stuff.

So the future is still a bit unclear. The weight loss could have a major
effect on a lot of things and I've only just begun that.


Wishing you the best as always,


Thank you sir for your good wishes and concern. As always, I too wish you
all the best.

Jeff


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  #12  
Old November 10th 07, 02:57 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!


It's very interesting that you should say that again. I have joined a
Yahoo newsgroup where top posting is pretty much the way it is done.
Everyone seems to top post all the time. I don't think that they are all
idiots but you never can tell.


Even though you can't cycle much anymore, that is no reason to desert ARBR.
Hells Bells, half the folks here don't cycle anymore. The only thing we run
are our mouths. You are as good at that as anyone else.

Any progress being made on your various infirmities from your trike
accident? Enough time has now passed so that you should be getting a fix
on what your prospects are.


Well since you asked,

I have decided not to have back surgery for pain. I've talked to many
people that have had it and nobody has had just one. I don't want to start
down a road of surgery after surgery. All the people I've talked to (about
4) say the same thing. The surgery works for a while and then the pain
returns.


Jeff, that is what I have heard too from many others who have had back pain.
You just have to learn to live with it and after awhile it seems to become
less and less. Back pain is why I had to give up riding upright bicycles.
Recumbents pretty much solved the back pain (and shoulder and neck pain)
problem for me, but I did not have a major trauma like you.

When I was at the Seattle VA some years ago for my prostate cancer treatment
(external and seed implant radiation) they were flying young guys down from
Alaska, all of whom had terrible back pain. They all wanted operations, but
the docs would not operate on them no matter what. It was all about getting
those midriff muscles in shape.

But I thought that I had to do something so last month I had a gastric
bypass. I expect that over the next year or so I'll take off the 100 or so
extra pounds that I'm carrying (I'm down over 20 already). My pain doc
says that every pound
I take off is like taking 3 off my back.


Once you lose some of that weight, it will make a big difference. Everyone I
know that is overweight have lots of joint pain due to osteoarthritis (wear
and tear) and are getting knee and hip replacements.

It is unclear if I will be able to cycle again and enjoy it. There are
some physical problems on my right side that make cycling unpleasent after
a while. When I think about trying to cycle again I'm going to need to
find a pedal system that lets me press with my heel instead of my toe.
That will allow me to avoid the unpleasent stuff.

So the future is still a bit unclear. The weight loss could have a major
effect on a lot of things and I've only just begun that.


Cycling is not the be-all and end-all of life. We are actually designed for
walking, not cycling. Try to get out and walk everyday for an hour or so, if
you can do that safely there in White Plains. That is what I do here in the
winter and it works for me. I carry along my MP3 player and listen to music
as I amble about Worthington. We all of us need to move more. It is really
all this sitting around that sends us to an early grave.
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




  #13  
Old November 12th 07, 03:08 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Prisoner at War
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On Nov 9, 9:42 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:


I have had cops (who should know better) tell me I should ride on the
sidewalk.


LOL! Just goes to show that cops simply make **** up, as suits the
occasion. It's either part of their training, 'cause they do it so
well, or the job attracts natural bull**** artists.

Speaking of cops, what ever happened to them bicycle cops? Don't see
any anymore, 'cept at parades -- what do they do the rest of the time?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
Tradition is the worst rational for action.



  #14  
Old November 12th 07, 03:13 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
Prisoner at War
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On Nov 9, 6:39 pm, "Gooserider" wrote:


Err, while it may be rare----it happens. I know because I was hit from
behind. It's a legitimate concern.



Well, thankfully it's never happened to me, not one single time in
over two decades of riding in NYC and surrounding environs in all
manner of weather, all times of day and night, all sorts of traffic
conditions, all seasons of the year (including in snow!)...I realize
that it's possible, but I just didn't think it was so probable.

Getting hit from behind is the Number One newbie fear, and I always
alleviated it in them by saying how it's never happened to me, for all
the side-swipes (taps).

I wonder what the statistics are...I'd bet that "rear-enders" are
rather less likely....

  #15  
Old November 12th 07, 03:56 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Prisoner at War" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 9, 9:42 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:


I have had cops (who should know better) tell me I should ride on the
sidewalk.


LOL! Just goes to show that cops simply make **** up, as suits the
occasion. It's either part of their training, 'cause they do it so
well, or the job attracts natural bull**** artists.

Speaking of cops, what ever happened to them bicycle cops? Don't see
any anymore, 'cept at parades -- what do they do the rest of the time?


Here is NYC XYZ again making a perfect fool of himself. He seems not to
realize that it is only the thin blue line (cops) that keeps us safe from
criminal predators. Many of them are now in prison where they belong and NYC
may well end up there himself if his present attitude should continue. But
he is young and has much to learn about human nature. In prison, he would
learn all about human nature in spades from his fellow inmates in a matter
of minutes.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #16  
Old November 12th 07, 08:36 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Jeff Grippe
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"Bill Sornson" wrote in message
...
Jeff Grippe wrote:
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!


It's very interesting that you should say that again. I have joined a
Yahoo newsgroup where top posting is pretty much the way it is done.
Everyone seems to top post all the time. I don't think that they are
all idiots but you never can tell.


Is it truly a "newsgroup" like this (Usenet) or one of many "Yahoo!
Groups" like our local mountain biking list? Almost every member
top-replies on that, too, because it's e-mail based for most and even the
online version just puts the latest post at the top.

The reason top-posting is stupid on a /newsgroup/ is mainly because it's
"threaded", not individual messages.

Bill "if all else fails, ask Michael Press" S.

Well, FWIW, I claim the to be the voice of someone who has been doing this
for a really long time. My experience with threaded conversations goes back
to the days of BBS's and modems. When I started on my first chat BBS the
best modem you could buy was 1200 baud. I actually go back to 110/300 baud
and acoustic couplers but I didn't use those for threaded conversations. As
a though experiment, however, top-posting would have been far superior on a
KSR-33.

Although the conversations were threaded, most regular readers already knew
what the previous messages were. Anyone who wanted to join the thread could
either start at the beginning or jump right in.

The rules that made sense back then (and still do to my way of thinking) is
that you would top post if your reply was a response to the entire message
that preceded it. OTOH, you would insert your text into the message if you
were responding point by point.

This message could just have easily been top-posted with no lack of clarity.
You could still follow the thread by reading what is below it or by reading
the previous message.

I would say that to top post a point by point rebuttal is not such a great
idea but otherwise, it works as well as bottom posting. My point has always
been that it isn't an all or nothing thing. Top posting isn't always evil
and bottom posting isn't always better.

Jeff


  #17  
Old November 12th 07, 08:43 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Jeff Grippe
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Default Anyone ride through the 1st Ave tunnel by the UN?


"Edward Dolan" wrote in message

Even though you can't cycle much anymore, that is no reason to desert
ARBR. Hells Bells, half the folks here don't cycle anymore. The only thing
we run are our mouths. You are as good at that as anyone else.


I won't abandon the group although almost the only one I talk to these days
is you.

Cycling is not the be-all and end-all of life. We are actually designed
for walking, not cycling. Try to get out and walk everyday for an hour or
so, if you can do that safely there in White Plains.


The loss of cycling, while not everything, is huge. It has been a source of
pleasure for most of my adult life and I won't concede it easily. While I
have never been a big fan of walking, my residual injuries make it more
unpleasant then ever. Because of the foot drop on my right side and the
difficulty in picking up that foot, walking has become a real chore. I
frequently stumble and trip on my own foot.

I still have martial arts and this winter, I should get out and see how
cross country skiing is. On easy trails it is like winter hiking. You don't
have to pick up your leg all the way. It might be something I can still do
although given how short the season is (they don't make snow for it), it
can't really replace cycling.

Jeff


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Old November 12th 07, 08:44 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Jeff Grippe
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POW is NYCXYZ?

How do you know this to be so?

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Prisoner at War" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 9, 9:42 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:


I have had cops (who should know better) tell me I should ride on the
sidewalk.


LOL! Just goes to show that cops simply make **** up, as suits the
occasion. It's either part of their training, 'cause they do it so
well, or the job attracts natural bull**** artists.

Speaking of cops, what ever happened to them bicycle cops? Don't see
any anymore, 'cept at parades -- what do they do the rest of the time?


Here is NYC XYZ again making a perfect fool of himself. He seems not to
realize that it is only the thin blue line (cops) that keeps us safe from
criminal predators. Many of them are now in prison where they belong and
NYC may well end up there himself if his present attitude should continue.
But he is young and has much to learn about human nature. In prison, he
would learn all about human nature in spades from his fellow inmates in a
matter of minutes.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota





  #19  
Old November 13th 07, 01:55 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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Default Anyone ride through the 1st Ave tunnel by the UN?


"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
...
POW is NYCXYZ?

How do you know this to be so?


The writing style is unmistakable. I can identify who is who by the manner
of their writing. But mainly it is his juvenile attitude and ****ed-up
sassiness that gives him away.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

"Prisoner at War" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 9, 9:42 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:


I have had cops (who should know better) tell me I should ride on the
sidewalk.

LOL! Just goes to show that cops simply make **** up, as suits the
occasion. It's either part of their training, 'cause they do it so
well, or the job attracts natural bull**** artists.

Speaking of cops, what ever happened to them bicycle cops? Don't see
any anymore, 'cept at parades -- what do they do the rest of the time?


Here is NYC XYZ again making a perfect fool of himself. He seems not to
realize that it is only the thin blue line (cops) that keeps us safe from
criminal predators. Many of them are now in prison where they belong and
NYC may well end up there himself if his present attitude should
continue. But he is young and has much to learn about human nature. In
prison, he would learn all about human nature in spades from his fellow
inmates in a matter of minutes.



  #20  
Old November 13th 07, 02:02 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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Default Anyone ride through the 1st Ave tunnel by the UN?


"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
...

"Bill Sornson" wrote in message
...
Jeff Grippe wrote:
"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
...

ALL TOP POSTERS ARE IDIOTS!


It's very interesting that you should say that again. I have joined a
Yahoo newsgroup where top posting is pretty much the way it is done.
Everyone seems to top post all the time. I don't think that they are
all idiots but you never can tell.


Is it truly a "newsgroup" like this (Usenet) or one of many "Yahoo!
Groups" like our local mountain biking list? Almost every member
top-replies on that, too, because it's e-mail based for most and even the
online version just puts the latest post at the top.

The reason top-posting is stupid on a /newsgroup/ is mainly because it's
"threaded", not individual messages.

Bill "if all else fails, ask Michael Press" S.

Well, FWIW, I claim the to be the voice of someone who has been doing this
for a really long time. My experience with threaded conversations goes
back to the days of BBS's and modems. When I started on my first chat BBS
the best modem you could buy was 1200 baud. I actually go back to 110/300
baud and acoustic couplers but I didn't use those for threaded
conversations. As a though experiment, however, top-posting would have
been far superior on a KSR-33.

Although the conversations were threaded, most regular readers already
knew what the previous messages were. Anyone who wanted to join the thread
could either start at the beginning or jump right in.

The rules that made sense back then (and still do to my way of thinking)
is that you would top post if your reply was a response to the entire
message that preceded it. OTOH, you would insert your text into the
message if you were responding point by point.

This message could just have easily been top-posted with no lack of
clarity. You could still follow the thread by reading what is below it or
by reading the previous message.

I would say that to top post a point by point rebuttal is not such a great
idea but otherwise, it works as well as bottom posting. My point has
always been that it isn't an all or nothing thing. Top posting isn't
always evil and bottom posting isn't always better.


I have been through these wars over the correct manner of posting messages
on Usenet many times and I weary of yet explaining it once again. And so I
won't, other than to say that you are wrong. Please read up on Netiquette
which I believe may still be available on the Google Groups website. Tom
Sherman will know about **** like this.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota




 




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