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Old November 13th 07, 02:30 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message

[...]
Cycling is not the be-all and end-all of life. We are actually designed
for walking, not cycling. Try to get out and walk everyday for an hour or
so, if you can do that safely there in White Plains.


The loss of cycling, while not everything, is huge. It has been a source
of pleasure for most of my adult life and I won't concede it easily. While
I have never been a big fan of walking, my residual injuries make it more
unpleasant then ever. Because of the foot drop on my right side and the
difficulty in picking up that foot, walking has become a real chore. I
frequently stumble and trip on my own foot.

I still have martial arts and this winter, I should get out and see how
cross country skiing is. On easy trails it is like winter hiking. You
don't have to pick up your leg all the way. It might be something I can
still do although given how short the season is (they don't make snow for
it), it can't really replace cycling.


Jeff, if you can't get out and walk easily I will admit you are in trouble.
I think that is the one thing we humans have to do in order to maintain our
health. Ever notice how those who are confined to a bed or a wheelchair
never live very long?

I think I would work on getting back the ability to walk above all else.
Surely there is a physical therapy or a prosthetic device available that
could help you.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


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Old November 13th 07, 10:12 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Jeff Grippe
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
news:[email protected] com...

"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
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POW is NYCXYZ?

How do you know this to be so?


The writing style is unmistakable. I can identify who is who by the manner
of their writing. But mainly it is his juvenile attitude and ****ed-up
sassiness that gives him away.


In other words, you don't really know. You are taking an educated guess
based on evidence but lets face it, there could be two people with similar
attitude and writing style no?


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Old November 13th 07, 10:23 AM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
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Jeff, if you can't get out and walk easily I will admit you are in
trouble. I think that is the one thing we humans have to do in order to
maintain our health. Ever notice how those who are confined to a bed or a
wheelchair never live very long?

I think I would work on getting back the ability to walk above all else.
Surely there is a physical therapy or a prosthetic device available that
could help you.


I can walk. It is slow and unpleasant. I've already been through 18 months
of PT which brought me as far as I've come today. There is a prosthetic
device. I have one. It is a case of the cure being worse than the disease.
The device is a brace and the improvement is minimal. The brace picks up the
front of my foot but it doesn't make the nerves fire that won't fire. The
brace is only the slightest of improvements.

I can and do exercise using machines and I am able to get an adequate
workout. I wasn't talking about physical fitness, which I am able to
maintain but rather about recreation. Cycling has never been about fitness
for me. Fitness was always a side effect. Cycling is something I have loved
to do since the first time I got on a bike as an adult. Before getting
married I used to bike just about everywhere and I got out every weekend. I
met my wife on a bike and she loves it as much as I do. Before children the
two of us biked often. Even after our son was born, we would plan bike trips
when we could. For example:

http://groups.msn.com/grippesphotos/railtrail2005.msnw

This is a safe link ed. It is to my photos on MSN.

So the loss of cycling would be huge but I don't concede the fight by a long
shot.

Jeff


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Old November 13th 07, 01:35 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
...

"Edward Dolan" wrote in message
news:[email protected] com...

"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
...
POW is NYCXYZ?

How do you know this to be so?


The writing style is unmistakable. I can identify who is who by the
manner of their writing. But mainly it is his juvenile attitude and
****ed-up sassiness that gives him away.


In other words, you don't really know. You are taking an educated guess
based on evidence but lets face it, there could be two people with similar
attitude and writing style no?


No, NOT likely. The New York bicycle group is quite dead and that is where
this nut case comes from. Hells Bells, he is even writing about the same
sold **** ... cops, et al.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #25  
Old November 13th 07, 01:46 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Jeff Grippe" wrote in message
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[...]
I can and do exercise using machines and I am able to get an adequate
workout. I wasn't talking about physical fitness, which I am able to
maintain but rather about recreation. Cycling has never been about fitness
for me. Fitness was always a side effect. Cycling is something I have
loved to do since the first time I got on a bike as an adult. Before
getting married I used to bike just about everywhere and I got out every
weekend. I met my wife on a bike and she loves it as much as I do. Before
children the two of us biked often. Even after our son was born, we would
plan bike trips when we could. For example:

http://groups.msn.com/grippesphotos/railtrail2005.msnw

This is a safe link ed. It is to my photos on MSN.

So the loss of cycling would be huge but I don't concede the fight by a
long shot.


Yes, I always cycled for enjoyment too, not fitness. But still it was a nice
side benefit to get. Now, however, I must admit I cycle more for fitness
than I do enjoyment. Trust me on this, cycling enjoyment does not continue
forever.

Just being able to walk is not enough. You have to be able to walk
continuously for a period of time (minimum 1 hour). It is something you do
for fitness, not enjoyment (unless you are hiking in the mountains of
course). However, if you can listen to music while you are doing it, it is
not so bad.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #26  
Old November 13th 07, 02:18 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:44:35 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:


"Steven M. O'Neill" wrote in message
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Edward Dolan wrote:
If you are riding in the lanes with motor vehicles in NYC it is just a
matter of time until you are hit. Ride in the street yes, but stay out of
the way of motor vehicles. In other words, get as far to the right as you
can, even if it means you are right next to the curb. Elementary, my dear
Watson!


Have you tried riding a bike like this, or is this just some
theory that you cooked up from behind the windshield?

The method you describe will result in a large number of near
sideswipes (or worse). If there's not enough room in a given
lane for a car to safely pass, the cyclist is much safer taking
the lane; drivers can see you better and are more likely to pass
in the adjacent lane when it's safe to do so.


Yes, that is the theory all right among the cognoscenti cyclists who think
they know everything. But it is false.

If you are in danger of being sideswiped, then get off your bike and walk it
on the sidewalk. The traffic in a major metro like NYC is ferocious and only
an idiot would want to mix in with it. Frankly, I would only ride a bike
there on a bike path - even in Brooklyn!



The only unpleasant part of my commute is the two miles from the 59th
Street Bridge down 2nd Avenue. Then I pick up the east side
bike/pedestrian path for the rest of the trip downtown.

Even 2nd Avenue is ok though for the most part. Folks in NYC are good
drivers. Aggressive maybe, but pretty aware of the road and people and
bikes.
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Old November 13th 07, 03:47 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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"dgk" wrote in message
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On Fri, 9 Nov 2007 16:44:35 -0600, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:


"Steven M. O'Neill" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
If you are riding in the lanes with motor vehicles in NYC it is just a
matter of time until you are hit. Ride in the street yes, but stay out
of
the way of motor vehicles. In other words, get as far to the right as
you
can, even if it means you are right next to the curb. Elementary, my
dear
Watson!

Have you tried riding a bike like this, or is this just some
theory that you cooked up from behind the windshield?

The method you describe will result in a large number of near
sideswipes (or worse). If there's not enough room in a given
lane for a car to safely pass, the cyclist is much safer taking
the lane; drivers can see you better and are more likely to pass
in the adjacent lane when it's safe to do so.


Yes, that is the theory all right among the cognoscenti cyclists who think
they know everything. But it is false.

If you are in danger of being sideswiped, then get off your bike and walk
it
on the sidewalk. The traffic in a major metro like NYC is ferocious and
only
an idiot would want to mix in with it. Frankly, I would only ride a bike
there on a bike path - even in Brooklyn!



The only unpleasant part of my commute is the two miles from the 59th
Street Bridge down 2nd Avenue. Then I pick up the east side
bike/pedestrian path for the rest of the trip downtown.

Even 2nd Avenue is ok though for the most part. Folks in NYC are good
drivers. Aggressive maybe, but pretty aware of the road and people and
bikes.


You bet - everybody says that until they get hit.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Old November 13th 07, 05:01 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
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On Nov 13, 5:12 am, "Jeff Grippe" wrote:


In other words, you don't really know. You are taking an educated guess
based on evidence but lets face it, there could be two people with similar
attitude and writing style no?




You know, people spend way too much time on usenet playing the
personae dramatis guessing game...fact is, every opinion has got its
"constituency," regardless of who actually states it in public ("I am
Spartacus!")....

Ed thinks he's very clever doing the "aha gotcha" routine when I've
already stated who I am -- not that it matters, of course. But like
the pedant with nothing of substance to say and therefore retreats to
pointing out typos and other such minutiae, Ed thinks conversations
best turn not on ideas, but personalities.

All the poorer him. Which explains why, for all his belly-aching,
it's just those "same old ****" I allegedly post which has him more
animated than a Viagra overdose....

I also wish you a good recovery, Jeff.

Let me know when you are ready for Chinese restaurant advice! ;-)

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Old November 13th 07, 05:51 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Edward Dolan
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"Prisoner at War" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Nov 13, 5:12 am, "Jeff Grippe" wrote:


In other words, you don't really know. You are taking an educated guess
based on evidence but lets face it, there could be two people with
similar
attitude and writing style no?




You know, people spend way too much time on usenet playing the
personae dramatis guessing game...fact is, every opinion has got its
"constituency," regardless of who actually states it in public ("I am
Spartacus!")....

Ed thinks he's very clever doing the "aha gotcha" routine when I've
already stated who I am -- not that it matters, of course. But like
the pedant with nothing of substance to say and therefore retreats to
pointing out typos and other such minutiae, Ed thinks conversations
best turn not on ideas, but personalities.


I do not see why you keep changing your user name. Further, I do not bother
with typos and other minutiae except in the case of those who do bother.
Everyone, but everyone, makes lots of mistakes all the time. It is only fun
to correct those who think such things are important.
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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Old November 13th 07, 07:36 PM posted to nyc.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent
Prisoner at War
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On Nov 13, 12:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:


I do not see why you keep changing your user name.


That my mailbox gets inundated with spam is really my own concern,
don't you think?

Further, I do not bother
with typos and other minutiae except in the case of those who do bother.


Of course, given your boredom (that's it, really, isn't it), pedantry
such as criticizing top-posting is not minutiae to you.

Everyone, but everyone, makes lots of mistakes all the time. It is only fun
to correct those who think such things are important.


Hell's bells, one would think MN was more interesting than
that...after all, the Great Dolan is in!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 




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