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I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it



 
 
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  #21  
Old February 4th 10, 06:06 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
jeff
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

clams_casino wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:


Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full
employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no
coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took
control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most
ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama --
voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't
enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He
did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie;
see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the
internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".)

Out, BS



Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet. You may want to
actually get some facts, but reality is obviously not something to which
you will apparently ever admit.

Poor GW - nothing was his fault (none of his numerous failings were ever
his fault - through he's whole life he's just been a victim of
circumstances).
Meanwhile, it'll be many years before the US recovers from the
disastrous results of the GW years / decisions.

Hint - it's no coincidence that the US began falling apart almost to the
day he was appointed president as business & investors ran to the
sidelines for the safety of CDs & bonds while minimizing / reducing
expansion plans.

Meanwhile, eight years later the country saw a loss in employment, lose
in real wages, a significantly reduced stock market value, a $1T
off-the-budget, bill of borrowed money for a ****ing contest in Iraq,
increased terrorism as the real terrorists were essentially left alone
to strengthen, etc. Did he ever veto any spending bill (even when
republicans controlled both the senate and congress)? GW's extensive
spending makes Obama seem a fiscally conservative.

Come to think of it, can you name even one success of the eight GW
years. I can think of only one - He was so inept that he opened the
door for the first minority in US history to be elected president.

If you don't like Obama being president, you can thank GW - His inept
leadership made it all possible.

Although GW made numerous mistakes, his biggest were likely tinkering
with a successful tax code (his rebates for the wealthy were all made
with borrowed money and failed to add any jobs), failing to curtail any
spending, invading Iraq (100% with again borrowed money) and allowing
the 9/11 terrorists to essentially run free only to strengthen in
numbers and force. Is there any doubt this loser will go down in
history as the #1 worst president?

BS is one of the most rabid W defenders.

The Tea Party itself is going back to Reagan, their Purity pledge is
all about Reagan and little anything else:

WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed that the Republican Party
should support
and espouse conservative principles and public policies; and

WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan also believed the Republican Party
should welcome
those with diverse views; and

WHEREAS, President Ronald Reagan believed, as a result, that someone who
agreed with
him 8 out of 10 times was his friend, not his opponent; and

WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and
public policies and
Republican solidarity in opposition to Obama’s socialist agenda is
necessary to preserve the
security of our country, our economic and political freedoms, and our
way of life; and

WHEREAS, Republican faithfulness to its conservative principles and
public policies is
necessary to restore the trust of the American people in the Republican
Party and to lead to
Republican electoral victories; and

WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee shares President Ronald
Reagan’s belief
that the Republican Party should espouse conservative principles and
public policies and
welcome persons of diverse views; and

WHEREAS, the Republican National Committee desires to implement
President Reagan’s

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Se...First_Read.pdf



Of course, W really was the president that most clearly followed what
the Tea Party wants. Crazy is doing the same thing over and over again
and expecting a different result. Yet that is what the Tea Party expects.

Jeff
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  #22  
Old February 5th 10, 01:38 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Tom Sherman °_°[_2_]
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

clams_casino wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:


Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full
employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no
coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took
control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most
ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama --
voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't
enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He
did try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie;
see "Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the
internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".)

Out, BS



Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet.[...]


It's Sorni - what else is new?

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  #23  
Old February 5th 10, 05:00 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Edward Dolan
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it


"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in message
...
clams_casino wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:


Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full
employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no
coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took
control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most
ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama --
voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't
enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did
try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see
"Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the
internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".)

Out, BS


Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet.[...]


It's Sorni - what else is new?


Liberals are so blinded by ideology that they are unable to comprehend, much
less deal with, the simplest facts. Folks, there is nothing dumber in this
world than a liberal. I give you Mr. Sherman as a prime example of the
species.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #24  
Old February 5th 10, 08:54 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Tom Sherman °_°[_2_]
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in message
...
clams_casino wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:

Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full
employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no
coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took
control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most
ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama --
voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't
enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did
try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see
"Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the
internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".)

Out, BS


Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet.[...]

It's Sorni - what else is new?


Liberals are so blinded by ideology that they are unable to comprehend, much
less deal with, the simplest facts. Folks, there is nothing dumber in this
world than a liberal. I give you Mr. Sherman as a prime example of the
species.

Poor Ed can not figure out that I am not a liberal.

Now if there was a Libertine Party, I would vote for them.

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  #25  
Old February 5th 10, 04:49 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
jeff
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in message
...
clams_casino wrote:
Bill Sornson wrote:

Dude, you're delusional. Unemployment was under 5% (technically "full
employment") for record number of quarters under Bush. It's no
coincidence that the economy started going to hell when the Dems took
control of Congress in the 2006 elections. (And yes, the most
ideological president in history -- then Senator Barrack H. Obama --
voted for all the spending bills and complained that they weren't
enough.) Bush's biggest mistake was not vetoing a ton of ****. (He did
try 18 separate and distinct times to reform Fanny and Freddie; see
"Burning Down the House" unless Obama has had it removed from the
internet like he just did a Reuters article on new "back door taxes".)

Out, BS


Amazing - biggest case of denial I've seen yet.[...]

It's Sorni - what else is new?


Liberals are so blinded by ideology that they are unable to comprehend, much
less deal with, the simplest facts. Folks, there is nothing dumber in this
world than a liberal. I give you Mr. Sherman as a prime example of the
species.


Lets look at these remarks as it explains a lot.

People, tend to think that others would do the same thing as they do.
Hence, if you are an ideologue, you think your opponent must be also.

Now, Mr Dolan has not refuted a single fact, he has instead engaged
in the most typical conservative line of personal attack. That gets
around those pesky facts which are so hard to explain.

In fact, for those on the right, this is a favorite approach.

Now, I believe that sometimes taxes are too high and sometimes there
is too much government regulation. An ideologue always believes that.
And he will follow that path irregardless of results.

It's all a bit selfish and not as self serving as they wish. To do
only things that are of benefit to yourself often backfires. The country
grows weaker and serves the individual less well. Certainly that is the
result of W blindly following tax cuts primarily aimed at the rich. Many
of those have lost also.

Those on the right tend to see this a zero sum game. They certainly
look at taxes that way. But wrecking the economy for your personal
benefit is not really self serving.

Jeff


Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #26  
Old February 6th 10, 01:05 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Les Cargill
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

jeff wrote:
snip

Those on the right tend to see this a zero sum game. They certainly
look at taxes that way.


Not... really. The Laffer curve story isn't zero sum at all. The
Phillips curve story is closer to being zero-sum.

But wrecking the economy for your personal
benefit is not really self serving.


Bush tax cuts to the side, I gotta say - it's the people who
like government who seem the most self-serving. Doing a stint in
Congrefs, then taking a megabuck job at a lobbying firm ... is
highly... bipartisan.


Jeff


Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



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  #27  
Old February 6th 10, 01:13 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Tom Sherman °_°[_2_]
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

jeff anonymous wrote:
[...]
Now, Mr Dolan has not refuted a single fact,[...]


Facts and Mr. Ed Dolan do not get along. ; )

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  #28  
Old February 6th 10, 04:08 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Edward Dolan
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it


"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Liberals are so blinded by ideology that they are unable to comprehend,
much less deal with, the simplest facts. Folks, there is nothing dumber
in this world than a liberal. I give you Mr. Sherman as a prime example
of the species.


Lets look at these remarks as it explains a lot.

People, tend to think that others would do the same thing as they do.
Hence, if you are an ideologue, you think your opponent must be also.

Now, Mr Dolan has not refuted a single fact, he has instead engaged in
the most typical conservative line of personal attack. That gets around
those pesky facts which are so hard to explain.


Bill Sornson gives anyone all the facts they would ever need. I go to the
heart of the matter which is the ideology of liberals. It is wrongheaded. I
have never known a liberal whom didn't deserve to be executed for crimes
against humanity. A liberal is a socialist is a communist. They are kin to
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. Leftists all!
[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



  #29  
Old February 6th 10, 04:14 AM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
Edward Dolan
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishing us with it


"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in message
...
jeff anonymous wrote:
[...]
Now, Mr Dolan has not refuted a single fact,[...]


Facts and Mr. Ed Dolan do not get along. ; )


An ideologue (liberal-socialist-communist) like Mr. Sherman only knows those
few facts which buttress his ideology. He is like a primitive savage who
believes in voodoo. Since he will not emigrate to France I suggest Haiti.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


  #30  
Old February 6th 10, 03:36 PM posted to alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc,misc.consumers.frugal-living
jeff
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Default I finally get it: If GW is not man-made, then God is punishingus with it

Edward Dolan wrote:
"jeff" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:

[...]
Liberals are so blinded by ideology that they are unable to comprehend,
much less deal with, the simplest facts. Folks, there is nothing dumber
in this world than a liberal. I give you Mr. Sherman as a prime example
of the species.

Lets look at these remarks as it explains a lot.

People, tend to think that others would do the same thing as they do.
Hence, if you are an ideologue, you think your opponent must be also.

Now, Mr Dolan has not refuted a single fact, he has instead engaged in
the most typical conservative line of personal attack. That gets around
those pesky facts which are so hard to explain.


Bill Sornson gives anyone all the facts they would ever need.


Which is none.

I go to the
heart of the matter which is the ideology of liberals. It is wrongheaded.

I
have never known a liberal whom didn't deserve to be executed for crimes
against humanity. A liberal is a socialist is a communist. They are kin to
Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. Leftists all!


These are all strawman arguments. You make your opponent out to be
something of your own creation, so you can attack it. To actually
believe that Obama is a communist is bereft of any real understanding
and delusional. You don't have a clue.

BTW, I assume that you will be giving up up your Social Security and
Medicare. Send us proof.

I'm reminded of what Col Lawrence Wilkerson, Colin Powels longtime
aid, has said about George W Bush, he should be tried for treason.

Jeff


[...]

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota



 




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