Tyler Hamilton is a big liar head

Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden. But, as has been pointed
out to me by a number of people, Phil Liggett and an AP reporter in
NYC are better judges of what happened on that climb than he is, even
though Hamilton was there. And video is certainly better than the
statement of a rider in the race who was there.

I wonder why he would denigrate Ullrich's character so?

I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.

App

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"Appkiller" wrote in message
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Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden. But, as has been pointed
out to me by a number of people, Phil Liggett and an AP reporter in
NYC are better judges of what happened on that climb than he is, even
though Hamilton was there. And video is certainly better than the
statement of a rider in the race who was there.

I wonder why he would denigrate Ullrich's character so?

I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.

App

Jeez, give it a rest! You're getting your panties in a wad over nothing.

Pat in TX

Appkiller wrote:
Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden. But, as has been pointed
out to me by a number of people, Phil Liggett and an AP reporter in
NYC are better judges of what happened on that climb than he is, even
though Hamilton was there. And video is certainly better than the
statement of a rider in the race who was there.

I wonder why he would denigrate Ullrich's character so?

I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.


He's on drugs. (And entitled to be.)
X-ray photo is up at
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?...os/2003/tour03. Search for
it!

--Karen M.

(Appkiller) wrote in message . com...
Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden. But, as has been pointed
out to me by a number of people, Phil Liggett and an AP reporter in
NYC are better judges of what happened on that climb than he is, even
though Hamilton was there. And video is certainly better than the
statement of a rider in the race who was there.

I wonder why he would denigrate Ullrich's character so?

Denigration? maybe not. We'll never know what was in Ullrich's head.


I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.

How about that stage win today though???

-Luigi

allez Tyler!


App

What drugs? Where is your proof? Or do you just enjoy slander?

Tim McTeague


I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.


He's on drugs. (And entitled to be.)
X-ray photo is up at
http://www.cyclingnews.com/tour.php?...os/2003/tour03. Search for
it!

--Karen M.

(Appkiller) wrote:

Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden. But, as has been pointed
out to me by a number of people, Phil Liggett and an AP reporter in
NYC are better judges of what happened on that climb than he is, even
though Hamilton was there. And video is certainly better than the
statement of a rider in the race who was there.

I wonder why he would denigrate Ullrich's character so?

He never said that about Ullrich, and I'll bet you you can't come up
with a single reference quoting him that says he did. Read his quote
- he was talking about the rest of the field.

Of course, maybe you can explain how after Armstrong crashed the
entire field (including Hamilton) who had all be soundly dropped was
instantly able to bridge the significant gap to the now-accelerating
Ullrich who had put the hammer down and was trying to ride away from
Lance? Yeah, THAT makes sense.

I bet he's lying about the collarbone too. The *******.

Whatever, Mr. Troll.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $695 ti frame

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"Tim McTeague"
What drugs? Where is your proof? Or do you just enjoy slander?

Tim McTeague


Why would it be slander for someone to recognize that a person with a broken
collarbone is taking pain medication?

Maybe you should stop shooting from the hip, Tim.

Pat in TX

(Appkiller)

wrote in part:

Hamilton has been quoted as saying Ullrich was not going to wait for
Armstrong after the crash on Luz-Ardiden.

"Has been quoted as saying", huh? That's kinda like the phrase "everyone knows"
when in fact they don't. What's your source for this?

Regards,
Bob Hunt

On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:45:01 -0400, "Tim McTeague"
wrote:

I am well aware it does not rise to the level of slander but when someone
says a cyclist is "on drugs" I think the message is clear. Drug testing is
so strict these days that Vaughters could not even take anything to control
the massive swelling in his face when he was stung by a bee in a previous
tour. I doubt that whatever Tyler is taking is not much up to the task of
taking away broken collar bone pain. I'm just getting tired of the signal
to noise ratio of these newsgroups. I'm on vacation this week and spending
too much time on-line so its back to playing with my two new Siberian Husky
puppies and riding my bike. As I climbed a very steep local hill I kept
wondering just how touch it must be to stay at it for hours, even without a
broken bone. The pros are just amazing.


Hi Tim

I was both unfortunate and stupid enough to break both my collar bones
about 18 months ago in two separate incidents. (Unfortunate, not my
fault. Stupid, entirely my fault.)

For quite a few days after each break I could hardly sleep or crawl
into my bed let alone ride a bike. Even mounting a bicycle was
extremely painful. However, once I was on the bike it all was less
painful. As a "bloke who rides a bike" I was, of course, allowed to
take whatever pain-killing drugs I liked, none of which really worked
too well.

The thought of pulling on the bars to help my climbing, such as it is
in my part of the UK, makes me wince even now. And, don't forget,
Tyler had hills a little more steep than the occasional railway
crossing or slight incline I find in the Southern part of England.

However, I do recall one TdeF cyclist either last year or the before
being denied anti-histamines or maybe a cortisone drug of of some
sort. He'd been stung by a wasp or a bee and his damaged eye closed
up. AFAIK, the active ingredient of the drug was illegal according to
the ICU rules.

Ignoring all of the above: Tyler should receive some sort of prize for
the most combatitive or brave rider.

Regards
James

PS I also smashed a shoulder around the same time as I bust both colar
bones.

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Tim leapt to TH's defense:

What drugs? Where is your proof? Or do you just enjoy slander?

The man has a broken collarbone, for heaven's sake. I was referring
to painkillers.

--Karen M.
jeeze!!