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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
On Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:08:20 -0700 (PDT), Jym Dyer
wrote: =v= I fixed the stupid thread title, in part because Earth Day is coming and greenwashers will be out in force, trying to peddle half-assed solutions in the form of cars that have only marginal ecological value. ALL cars are negative, not "marginal". _Jym_ ---------== Posted via Deja News, The Discussion Network ==-------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Discuss, or Start Your Own -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Envirotards Buy "Enviro"-Cars
ALL cars are negative, not "marginal".
=v= Yes. I know that. =v= The point is that Earth Day greenwashers keep trying to sell cars that are only marginally better than older-technology cars. The most fuel-efficient 2008 hybrid, for example, only has marginally better MPG than the most fuel-efficient 1985 Honda: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/ =v= For years, Earth Day has been an excuse for marketeers to praise "eco"-cars as the solution for all our ills. And I'm calling bull**** on that. _Jym_ |
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Envirotards Buy "Enviro"-Cars
"Jym Dyer" wrote For years, Earth Day has been an excuse for marketeers to praise "eco"-cars as the solution for all our ills. And I'm calling bull**** on that. Dyer insists that there is no problem because he can't stomach incremental solutions. |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
"Mike Romain" wrote So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet or how to read headers I see. Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correct.y MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
"Bill Sornson" wrote You can't even quote correctly. Hint: DI did not write the above. He wrote: Translation, you can't set up your newsreader correctly. Meanwhile.... A Drought in Australia, a Global Shortage of Rice - New York Times April 17, 2008 The Food Chain A Drought in Australia, a Global Shortage of Rice By KEITH BRADSHER DENILIQUIN, Australia - Lindsay Renwick, the mayor of this dusty southern Australian town, remembers the constant whir of the rice mill. "It was our little heartbeat out there, tickety-tick-tickety," he said, imitating the giant fans that dried the rice, "and now it has stopped." The Deniliquin mill, the largest rice mill in the Southern Hemisphere, once processed enough grain to meet the needs of 20 million people around the world. But six long years of drought have taken a toll, reducing Australia's rice crop by 98 percent and leading to the mothballing of the mill last December. Ten thousand miles separate the mill's hushed rows of oversized silos and sheds - beige, gray and now empty - from the riotous streets of Port-au-Prince, Haiti, but a widening global crisis unites them. The collapse of Australia's rice production is one of several factors contributing to a doubling of rice prices in the last three months - increases that have led the world's largest exporters to restrict exports severely, spurred panicked hoarding in Hong Kong and the Philippines, and set off violent protests in countries including Cameroon, Egypt, Ethiopia, Haiti, Indonesia, Italy, Ivory Coast, Mauritania, the Philippines, Thailand, Uzbekistan and Yemen. Drought affects every agricultural industry based here, not just rice - from sheepherding, the other mainstay in this dusty land, to the cultivation of wine grapes, the fastest-growing crop here, with that expansion often coming at the expense of rice. The drought's effect on rice has produced the greatest impact on the rest of the world, so far. It is one factor contributing to skyrocketing prices, and many scientists believe it is among the earliest signs that a warming planet is starting to affect food production. It is difficult to definitely link short-term changes in weather to long-term climate change, but the unusually severe drought is consistent with what climatologists predict will be a problem of increasing frequency. Indeed, the chief executive of the National Farmers' Federation in Australia, Ben Fargher, says, "Climate change is potentially the biggest risk to Australian agriculture." Drought has already spurred significant changes in Australia's agricultural heartland. Some farmers are abandoning rice, which requires large amounts of water, to plant less water-intensive crops like wheat or, especially here in southeastern Australia, wine grapes. Other rice farmers have sold fields or water rights, usually to grape growers. Scientists and economists worry that the reallocation of scarce water resources - away from rice and other grains and toward more lucrative crops and livestock - threatens poor countries that import rice as a dietary staple. The global agricultural crisis is threatening to become political, pitting the United States and other developed countries against the developing world over the need for affordable food versus the need for renewable energy. Many poorer nations worry that subsidies from rich countries to support biofuels, which turn food, like corn, into fuel, are pushing up the price of staples. The World Bank and the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization called on major agricultural nations to overhaul policies to avoid a social explosion from rising food prices. With rice, which is not used to make biofuel, the problem is availability. Even in normal times, little of the world's rice is actually exported - more than 90 percent is consumed in the countries where it is grown. In the last quarter-century, rice consumption has outpaced production, with global reserves plunging by half just since 2000. A plant disease is hurting harvests in Vietnam, reducing supply. And economic uncertainty has led producers to hoard rice and speculators and investors to see it as a lucrative or at least safe bet. All these factors have made countries that buy rice on the global market vulnerable to extreme price swings. Senegal and Haiti each import four-fifths of their rice, and both have faced mounting unrest as prices have increased. Police suppressed violent demonstrations in Dakar on March 30, and unrest has spread to other rice-dependent nations in West Africa, notably Ivory Coast. The Haitian president, René Préval, after a week of riots, announced subsidies for rice buyers on Saturday. Scientists expect the problem to worsen. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, set up by the United Nations, predicted last year that even slight warming would lower agricultural output in the tropics and subtropics. Moderate warming could benefit crop and pasture yields in countries far from the Equator, like Canada and Russia. In fact, the net effect of moderate warming is likely to be higher total global food production in the next several decades. But the scientists said the effect would be uneven, and enormous quantities of food would need to be shipped from areas farther from the Equator to feed the populations of often less-affluent countries closer to the Equator. The panel predicted that even greater warming, which might happen by late in this century if few or no limits are placed on greenhouse gas emissions, would hurt total food output and cripple crops in many countries. Survival Techniques Paul Lamine N'Dong, an elder in Joal, Senegal, worries that hot weather and failing rains have already crippled his village's crop of millet, a coarse grain eaten locally and traded for rice. Sitting on a concrete dais reserved for elders, Mr. N'Dong said on a recent morning, "The price rises very quickly, which means we really have to go and look for money." "It is live or die," he said. For farmers in a richer nation like Australia, the effects of the current drought are already significant. |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
V-for-Vendicar wrote:
"Mike Romain" wrote So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet or how to read headers I see. Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correct.y MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh. LOL! Mike |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
"V-for-Vendicar" wrote in message ... "Mike Romain" wrote So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet or how to read headers I see. Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correct.y MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN I love this guys sig line. |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
"Mike Romain" wrote So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet or how to read headers I see. V-for-Vendicar wrote: Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correct.y MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN "Mike Romain" wrote Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh. Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correctly MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN |
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Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"
V-for-Vendicar wrote:
"Mike Romain" wrote So you are not only ignorant of Science, but have no clue on the internet or how to read headers I see. V-for-Vendicar wrote: Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correct.y MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN "Mike Romain" wrote Zinggg right on by. Way over your head eh. Translation: Mike Romain isn't smart enough to configure his quoter correctly MMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNN I gotta just love your sig line, it suits you to a T. You are giving your country a bad name though by being such a stoopid person. Mike |
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