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A couple of cyclists happened to be passing the very driveway where the motorcycle accident happened when GoogleEarth took its Street View image!
https://www.dropbox.com/s/zibi0z8ggc...ation.jpg?dl=0 Cycling is a lot safer than motorcycling because you're going so much slower that you can really be on the lookout for cars trying to kill you and avoid them. |
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Frank Patterson [was: Question for Joerg]
On 1/22/2017 9:42 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/22/2017 6:22 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-01-22 10:42, wrote: This video is more my cup of tea, Joerg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9YwOKR8-U I did a few of those trips when I was young but even then I longed for nature instead of the din of cars. Din of cars? Amazing. The video showed one A road with some traffic. All the rest looked like absolutely gorgeous roads with mostly zero traffic. To me, it looked like a cycling paradise. Speaking of that cycling paradise: I'm nearly done (I hope) battling through my annual winter bronchitis. And again this year, when I'm feeling too sick to do much, I take solace in browsing through my collection of Frank Patterson pen and ink sketchbooks. http://www.foodman123.com/fpat.htm These sketches, as much as anything, make me long for a time machine large enough to transport me and my bike. I biked in Britain quite a bit in 1976 and a little in 2001, but I wondered how traffic-choked the roads had become since then. The video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ns9YwOKR8-U gave me hope. Much of it looks like a Patterson sketch. I wonder if Phil can comment. What areas have low enough traffic for really peaceful riding? -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Question for Joerg
On 1/23/2017 11:04 AM, wrote:
A couple of cyclists happened to be passing the very driveway where the motorcycle accident happened when GoogleEarth took its Street View image! https://www.dropbox.com/s/zibi0z8ggc...ation.jpg?dl=0 Cycling is a lot safer than motorcycling because you're going so much slower that you can really be on the lookout for cars trying to kill you and avoid them. At least some data indicates that bicycling in the U.S. is over 30 times as safe as motorcycling, on average. That's on the basis of fatalities per hour exposure. Of course, being a grand average, it includes both the crotch rocketeers and the no lights, wrong-way at night drunk bicyclists. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Question for Joerg
On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 5:16:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote to Joerg:
Seriously? That looks like a great ride. http://tinyurl.com/h4rupuz That's a quintessential Sierra foothills ride. Reminds me of this local ride: http://rideoregonride.com/road-route...ge-long-route/ http://norcalcyclingnews.com/words/w...1.28.07-AM.png Holy Mother of God, either somebody's got an incompetent camera, a heavy hand with Photoshop, or you live in a Neon Nature. (Germans say, "In the nature", complete with definitive article, which makes "In the neon nature," the next logical step...) If those types of roads are frightening for you, you'd basically have no fun place to ride around here. Here in the Green and Beloved Isle, almost every agreeable cycling road looks like that, or smaller (and usually a bit rougher). The difference is that the cycling road starts at my front door and, of course, you don't need to truck the bike to the start of the ride (I haven't driven a car in a quarter-century). Andre Jute Fortunate |
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What I meant when I said all the good rides here look like that, only now (in winter) not so neon:
http://thorncyclesforum.co.uk/index....9.msg89515#new On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 6:06:34 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote: On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 5:16:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote to Joerg: Seriously? That looks like a great ride. http://tinyurl.com/h4rupuz That's a quintessential Sierra foothills ride. Reminds me of this local ride: http://rideoregonride.com/road-route...ge-long-route/ http://norcalcyclingnews.com/words/w...1.28.07-AM.png Holy Mother of God, either somebody's got an incompetent camera, a heavy hand with Photoshop, or you live in a Neon Nature. (Germans say, "In the nature", complete with definitive article, which makes "In the neon nature," the next logical step...) If those types of roads are frightening for you, you'd basically have no fun place to ride around here. Here in the Green and Beloved Isle, almost every agreeable cycling road looks like that, or smaller (and usually a bit rougher). The difference is that the cycling road starts at my front door and, of course, you don't need to truck the bike to the start of the ride (I haven't driven a car in a quarter-century). Andre Jute Fortunate |
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Question for Joerg
On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 10:06:34 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote:
On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 5:16:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote to Joerg: Seriously? That looks like a great ride. http://tinyurl.com/h4rupuz That's a quintessential Sierra foothills ride. Reminds me of this local ride: http://rideoregonride.com/road-route...ge-long-route/ http://norcalcyclingnews.com/words/w...1.28.07-AM.png Holy Mother of God, either somebody's got an incompetent camera, a heavy hand with Photoshop, or you live in a Neon Nature. (Germans say, "In the nature", complete with definitive article, which makes "In the neon nature," the next logical step...) If those types of roads are frightening for you, you'd basically have no fun place to ride around here. Here in the Green and Beloved Isle, almost every agreeable cycling road looks like that, or smaller (and usually a bit rougher). The difference is that the cycling road starts at my front door and, of course, you don't need to truck the bike to the start of the ride (I haven't driven a car in a quarter-century). Did you think I was going to post an actual, unfiltered picture of a forest service road with ratty BPA power lines overhead? No way! Cycling roads start at my front door, too. I jump on my bike and ride to work or out to the country. I ride here from my doorstep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSyGGID-YrQ&t=7s (note vaguely Celtic music, which is always playing) and here on the Washington side. http://tinyurl.com/gmhlwxb (shot from a road hanging on to the side of a cliff). Of course, I'm editing out the miles of ugly east county where you can smell the meth cooking, but hey, somebody has to attract the tourists. Waterfalls! https://www.travelportland.com/wp-co...y--652x521.jpg BTW, a more realistic vision of riding forest roads near Mt. Hood. http://pathlesspedaled.com/2015/08/r...ke-hood-river/ There are actually some non-sucky ways to get out to Mt. Hood from my house, although RT is beyond my current ability or desire. My doorstep to top of Mt. Hood and back is 120 miles with lots of climbing. But there is beer at the top -- and snow this time of year. http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1427045/th...EGON-570.jpg?2 -- Jay Beattie. |
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On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 3:35:53 PM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-01-22 11:18, wrote: On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 10:04:53 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote: On 2017-01-22 09:28, wrote: Jay, I assume you are referring to the Salmon Falls ride. It really is a great ride; I have done it quite a few times; and I wouldn't consider it to be a particularly dangerous bicycle ride because you're pretty much always going slow enough to stop if somebody pulls out in front of you from their driveway. But it is really dangerous to guys riding fast motorcycles because it became well-known as a popular fast motorcycle ride when the area was rural, but after it became somewhat suburban there were quite a few motorcycling deaths on the road. Yup. They often ride like these guys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiYFqGhrw1o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HkeEMwkIYk Speed limit? Phhht .... This is the sort of riding you'll see everywhere from Palomares (presently closed due to landslides) To Mt. Diablo or Mt. Hamilton. Even out on 1 1/2 lane country roads at 85 mph. Looks like he pulls it up to 160mph at about 1:20min in the 2nd video. I am surprised people post that in public. My wife tells me that before my head injury I drove like a maniac but I sure as hell don't remember that. And cops think I'm suspicious because I'm the only one on the road driving at the speed limit. |
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The only bit in that pulchritudinous missive I believe is "Margarita salt is an electrolyte replacer, right?!"
Of course it is. Andre Jute Skeptic On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 8:17:10 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, January 23, 2017 at 10:06:34 AM UTC-8, Andre Jute wrote: On Sunday, January 22, 2017 at 5:16:05 PM UTC, jbeattie wrote to Joerg: Seriously? That looks like a great ride. http://tinyurl.com/h4rupuz That's a quintessential Sierra foothills ride. Reminds me of this local ride: http://rideoregonride.com/road-route...ge-long-route/ http://norcalcyclingnews.com/words/w...1.28.07-AM.png Holy Mother of God, either somebody's got an incompetent camera, a heavy hand with Photoshop, or you live in a Neon Nature. (Germans say, "In the nature", complete with definitive article, which makes "In the neon nature," the next logical step...) If those types of roads are frightening for you, you'd basically have no fun place to ride around here. Here in the Green and Beloved Isle, almost every agreeable cycling road looks like that, or smaller (and usually a bit rougher). The difference is that the cycling road starts at my front door and, of course, you don't need to truck the bike to the start of the ride (I haven't driven a car in a quarter-century). Did you think I was going to post an actual, unfiltered picture of a forest service road with ratty BPA power lines overhead? No way! Cycling roads start at my front door, too. I jump on my bike and ride to work or out to the country. I ride here from my doorstep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSyGGID-YrQ&t=7s (note vaguely Celtic music, which is always playing) and here on the Washington side. http://tinyurl.com/gmhlwxb (shot from a road hanging on to the side of a cliff). Of course, I'm editing out the miles of ugly east county where you can smell the meth cooking, but hey, somebody has to attract the tourists. Waterfalls! https://www.travelportland.com/wp-co...y--652x521.jpg BTW, a more realistic vision of riding forest roads near Mt. Hood. http://pathlesspedaled.com/2015/08/r...ke-hood-river/ There are actually some non-sucky ways to get out to Mt. Hood from my house, although RT is beyond my current ability or desire. My doorstep to top of Mt. Hood and back is 120 miles with lots of climbing. But there is beer at the top -- and snow this time of year. http://i.huffpost.com/gen/1427045/th...EGON-570.jpg?2 -- Jay Beattie. |
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