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Old May 20th 06, 09:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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DIYTIRE3?

DIY Tire Removal 3 differs from DIY 2. We at BCL Labs stand 100-150'
behind this one as foolproof and welcome fools who screw this up to
cawment further.
OK. Lets cut the expletive deleted here.
TIRE CHANGING.
Tool list-
1. Prestone silicone lubricant available at Woolmort
2. Park's TL-1 Tire Lever called 'spoonbill' tire levers.
blue colour, pack of three
4. Dutch Plastic Tire Levers imported by Kool Stop comes in 3
pack,
rubber
embrader on the enclosure's sides! Amazing.
5. Abrasive pad, green color available at woolmort.
6. Rag, clean.
7. Possible use for Duct tape, Nashua 368 for velo or
rubber strip splicing and valve hole mending.
also sharp razor blade helps here.
8. ONE LAWYER!
Wipe tire, rim clean. Inspect for punctures and mark rim and tire for
puncture postions. Deflate tube.Make a tube deflator? Use a presta
adaptor and center epoxy a pin to depress valve.
A. Place wheel on your lap and at your belly Grab tire's bottom center
with fingers both hands pinching bead inward off the rim's shoulders,
deflating tube.
Pinch pinch pinch pushing the tire forward or away from your position
and outward until reaching rim center diameter then do the same but
squeeze inward. Play ina gadda da vida if its around?
Twisting may help if yawl can chew gum and walk.
Understand the rim pinching and bead centering. Yawl are changing the
relationship between tire and rim diamteres giving slack so the bead
can be pried off the rim edge.
Cyclists (me too) often wonder why the tire doesn't come off the
expleted deleted rim after squeezing and whatever. "Why by golly it's
the tires fault." ACH DU!
Well NO!: truth is yawl expletive deleted stupid and the tire/rim gone
and outsmarterd you big time. Gotta be smarter than the rim/tire!
Astounding. Oh , there are 'cyclists' squeezing 700 onto 27 and 27
onto...
Know the guy who sits in an airplane hanger in Arizona with 40 thugs
dressed ina tux and robes watching 20 TV screen 6'x6'. That's the dude
controlling the rim/tire size. You have expleted deleted!! By the way,
this dude exterminates 'cyclists', yawl know right. Sooner or
later...
THE SOLUTION IS: (well, one of them. we can't cover everything here,
right?)
AFTER SQUEEZING YAWL BRAINS OUT, PACE ONE DUTCH HOOKED TIRE
LEVER(TOOLIST 1) BETWEEN RIM AND TIRE BEAD AT 12 NOON DIRECTLY
OPPOSITE YAWL'S POSITION. LEVER BEAD UP AND OUTWARD, HOOK THE NEAREST
SPOKE. NOTICE HOW THE LEVER'S BEAD END IS LIPPED(OR HOOKED-HAVING MORE
THAN ONE HOOK HERE GIVES ME A MIGRAINE) THE TIRE BEAD INSERTION
END(AH) HOLDS THE BEAD IN PLACE!! THIS IMAGE COMES IN HANDY IN A FEW
MINUTES.
Repeat step A. Repeat A. if compulsive or obsessive and if so check
for the tire deflator installed before A.
Now the bead will stay centurd and a max diameter shift will continue
when yawl squeeze and press and twist rather than slip backwards and
back onto the rim shoulder-then convincing a neophyte that the factory
has ... this is a humorous list but time...
OK. Now for the good stuff at toolist 1: Prestone silicone. Prestone
has engineered this product to not only rip yawl off with as zero
possible silicone but provide a usable product. Way to go Prestone!!!
Spray silicone(that's what the can sez) on yawl no wait on the
rim/tire wall from now inserted lever to about an optomystic six
inches traveling right. Cleaning the levers and spray the tips is OK.
Do not breath this ****.
Insert toolist tool 2: the Park's spoonbill lever, a specialized tool
The Park spoonbills tend not to catch the tube when prying tire beads.
Better than the hooked Dutch lever anyway. The spoonbill shape is
effective for removing a fat tube from a skinny tire carcass without
pinching and then holing the tube. Both sets are almost indispensable,
cheap... and there's always a spare around.
Loosen the fingers or grow another arm mit hand. Insert spoonbill
adjacent Dutch lever and pry,hold spoonbill. Insert a second
spoonbill, pry, hold second. A third, fourth...by now the beads coming
over rim edge, the tire's carcass no longer tightly held onto the rim.
The silicone lubes this beautifully: Itsa miracle.
The finger dexterity, and arm, knee, teeth, requi=red here is a
developed art. Takes practice and ingenuity. Imagination.
Intelligence.
One thing to be said: learning how to use the tools may be more
important than learning how to change the tire before the sun sets.
Do not run the levers sideways along the rim top squishing(that's what
you think but its not gonna be dude)to reposition the bead outside the
rim. Running the lever along the rim top to move the bead over the top
and free and NOT prying carefully often separates bead rubber from the
bead. Itsa bad habit. Abrading rubber from the bead with a tire lever
is directly proportional to the tire's expense.
AHHH!! Remove tire, clean tire's insides, tube, slime liner and hang
to stay clean.
Clean rim's metal( who knows right??ceramic bearings?) inside clincher
wall or whatever with a small 1x2" piece of green abrasive
pad(woolmort) moist with yeah! Prestone silicone lubricant.
After cleaning, inspecting, repair (yes!! self-sealing tubes are
patchable) checking for tread direction and the continuing integrity
of the velox/rubber strip-both repairable with duct tape
(homedepot-avoid woolmort), spray another 12" tire wall with prestone
and locate that portion as the next area for a pryoff.
And check the brake pads for tire wall rub.
back from lunch -
following the DEPOSIT teflon wax ( google 'zipper lube' and then white
teflon lubricant) into rear hub spoke holes when lacing a new wheel -
i tried the CRC silicone, two coats, (and now inside following Slime's
slime as talc replacement-back next week) then mounted the tire onto
the rim off course
then sprayed again with tire mounted and inflated leaving a cove of
silicone at the sidewall rim intersection. not good.
using a patch of aluminum foil holding a swatch of paper towel (2)
soaked in acetone, I wiped the CRC Si off the rim's braking surface -
twice - clean swatchs each side
then coated the rim braking surface and overspray off course with CRC
rubber belt dressing as at - brake prep - in archives
now you may ask why? well, in touring and hd commuting, the sidewall
intersection with the rim takes a horrific pounding. Worse, the flexing

allows sand particle to enter the seam and LO!
combined with the inevitable out of round yaw, the sidewall carcass
fabric and cover seperates significantly reducting tire life --
thus the Si lube and lubecove cove reducing sidewall wear with a
protective coating of relatively flexible belt prep over the top.
so far this appears functional in reducing sidewall sepearations!!

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Old May 20th 06, 09:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Good grief. That made sense. Has our beloved embodiment of
creek-of-subconsciousness style been channelling Fogel?
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Old May 20th 06, 10:30 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sat, 20 May 2006 20:58:26 GMT, Werehatrack
wrote:

Good grief. That made sense. Has our beloved embodiment of
creek-of-subconsciousness style been channelling Fogel?


Dear Werehatrack,

The only tire tricks that I know are to make sure that the tire
bead is down in the well of the rim and to finish at 90 degrees
to the valve stem.

For tools, opposable thumbs serve me well.

For lubrication, I use nothing more than occasional profanity.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
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Old May 21st 06, 06:06 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I admit I made a halfhearted attempt at reading this post. Thought I
might have missed something. Nope, nothing here.

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Old May 21st 06, 06:43 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Kenny wrote:

I admit I made a halfhearted attempt at reading this post. Thought I
might have missed something. Nope, nothing here.


You just inadvertently disrespected his entire ... massive ... cult
following.

Gene ... Gene ... Gene ... Gene ...

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Old May 23rd 06, 03:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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DIYTIRE3?

DIY Tire Removal 3 differs from DIY 2. We at BCL Labs stand 100-150'
behind this one as foolproof and welcome fools who screw this up to
cawment further.
OK. Lets cut the expletive deleted here.
TIRE CHANGING.
Tool list-
1. Prestone silicone lubricant available at Woolmort


I happen to like dish detergent or Orange cleaner instead of oil based lube
for this application.

I always believed that it cleanded up nicer and was easier on the rim tape.

Am I wrong?

Dave

PS.
Great post!


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Old May 24th 06, 10:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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no and yes or maybe. water is ok as long as as long as the metal dries.
example: mixing water and Tide to a detergent paste then rotary
brushing pitted metal is good practice.
but with the rim, the pressing need to get the tire back on and get on
with it leaves me paranoid about what's going on inside the assembly
when I (one prays) will not bew opening it up again for at least
another 24 hours -like if its out in the open(where it will dry
anywho) then you know if its rusting or corroding the nipples or
whatever right?
the deal seems to be -
a paper towel or rag patch mist with solvent and wiped along a boundry,
as the inner rim wall and velox floor, will not leave solvent where the
rag/towel does not go or at max tends to not disturb the adjacent
environment. this obdurate and ignorant obsrevation and practice does
take into account the fact that the velox is a durable fabric not ZZ
grade vinyl.
i use duct tape for joining the velox and haven't had any pproblems
attaching duct to velox.

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Old May 24th 06, 10:49 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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two parts! one group - mounts tire with rock and asks why does the...
the other sez - **** this is a pain in the ass there must be a ...

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Old May 26th 06, 09:01 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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The sidewall lubricant idea does reduce beadwall/sidewall failures
-try it? At -

http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=1183

http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=537

http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=540 !

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...&ct=clnk&cd=10

http://www.lubery.com/store/comersus...idCategory= 2

http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(2simaxyvmqkr4juxfeyhyw55)/ProductDetails.aspx?SKU=87208&Source=froogle

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Old May 26th 06, 09:19 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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duh

The sidewall lubricant idea does reduce beadwall/sidewall failures
-try it? At -

http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=1183


http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=537


http://www.mcnett.com/page.cfm?pageID=540 !


http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...c-velsen.nl/do...



http://www.lubery.com/store/comersus...roducts.asp?id...



http://www.acehardwareoutlet.com/(2simaxyvmqkr4juxfeyhyw55)/ProductDe...

 




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