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http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...ress-lane.html
-- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 8/31/2010 4:44 PM, A. Muzi wrote:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...ress-lane.html Lesson, if you are going to ride in a lane against traffic moving in excess of 110 kph on a controlled access urban motorway, better wear a couple of hundred grams of expanded polystyrene on your head. /sarcasm [1] [1] For Michael Press and André Jute, this is NOT a quote of Andy Muzi. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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On Aug 31, 4:44*pm, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Sensationalist. It doesn't mention a helmet. Good call on the editors, as it would have been ridiculous. Kid was probably high as hell. |
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On Aug 31, 3:30 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: On 8/31/2010 4:44 PM, A. Muzi wrote:http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Lesson, if you are going to ride in a lane against traffic moving in excess of 110 kph on a controlled access urban motorway, better wear a couple of hundred grams of expanded polystyrene on your head. /sarcasm [1] snip Well, I saw no mention of helmets, but did note "... bicycle riding is prohibited... ". I don't know about you, but if I got smacked by an SUV on the expressway, I'd much rather be wearing a helmet, which isn't at all the same as saying I would rely on it to save me. |
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On Aug 31, 11:30*pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: On 8/31/2010 4:44 PM, A. Muzi wrote:http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Lesson, if you are going to ride in a lane against traffic moving in excess of 110 kph on a controlled access urban motorway, better wear a couple of hundred grams of expanded polystyrene on your head. /sarcasm [1] In a thread about a dead cyclist it is difficult to imagine any remarks in poorer taste than Sherman's. [1] For Michael Press and André Jute, this is NOT a quote of Andy Muzi. A thread about a dead cyclist isn't the place to carry on your petty flame wars, Sherman. Your behaviour is in the worst taste possible. Andre Jute |
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On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:44:02 -0500, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...ress-lane.html Same incident: http://wbbm.cbslocal.com/2010/08/30/bicyclist-struck-on-dan-ryan-dies/ Hippchen was not wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, sources said. He was struck by a black Jeep sport-utility vehicle, which had to be towed from the scene. No helmet. In order to make a Jeep SUV inoperable, there must have been quite an impact with the bicycle, or maybe the wall. Nothing useful in the photos. The first URL says it's a black Lexus LX470. The others say a black Jeep SUV. Well, they probably got the black part right. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On 2010-09-01, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:44:02 -0500, AMuzi wrote: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...ress-lane.html Same incident: http://wbbm.cbslocal.com/2010/08/30/bicyclist-struck-on-dan-ryan-dies/ Hippchen was not wearing a helmet at the time of the crash, sources said. He was struck by a black Jeep sport-utility vehicle, which had to be towed from the scene. No helmet. In order to make a Jeep SUV inoperable, there must have been quite an impact with the bicycle, or maybe the wall. Nothing useful in the photos. The impact would have taken place at close to 70 mph that time of night, in that direction (inbound to the Loop). Momentum is a bitch. -- Kristian Zoerhoff |
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On Aug 31, 4:44*pm, AMuzi wrote:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Please post for me a link where I can buy a helmet that will save my life if I were to, - ride the wrong way, and collide with a car, - at a closing speed of over 60 mph. Price no bar. |
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On Sep 1, 4:25*pm, Nexus7 wrote:
On Aug 31, 4:44*pm, AMuzi wrote: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Please post for me a link where I can buy a helmet that will save my life if I were to, - ride the wrong way, and collide with a car, - at a closing speed of over 60 mph. Price no bar. You're going to be disappointed, pal, but then I guess you know that already! All the money in the world can't buy security against stupidity (whether drug-induced, as Max speculated, or not). I don't reckon even full body armour, or being strapped into a roll cage, woulda saved that guy. Several of the reports mentioned that he was riding against the traffic... At expressway closing speed the instantaneous deceleration of the impact -- which Mike will calculate for us (pretty please?) since I'm off on a ride -- will mush his innards; game over, no penetration or skull-cracking required. We are also told he hit that Lexus SUV (maybe a Jeep) hard enough to immobilize it. -- Andre Jute |
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2010 10:15:53 -0700 (PDT), Andre Jute
wrote: On Sep 1, 4:25*pm, Nexus7 wrote: On Aug 31, 4:44*pm, AMuzi wrote: http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2...lled-in-dan-ry... Please post for me a link where I can buy a helmet that will save my life if I were to, - ride the wrong way, and collide with a car, - at a closing speed of over 60 mph. Price no bar. You're going to be disappointed, pal, but then I guess you know that already! Maybe not. If you look at the leathers and plastic armor favored by the motorcycle riders, it might be possible to adapt some of the technology to bicycles. In automobiles, the trend is toward a cocoon like enclosure surrounding the occupants. It may take some time to get up to a 60mph rating, but it's a start. Maybe just gluing blocks of stryrofoam, as in the helmets, to some manner of protective suit, might be a start. Personally, I would favor a pressure suit, that inflates when excessive G forces are detected. It would be much like wearing and air bag. You would then bounce down the road, as in the Mars landers. Anyway, don't give up quite so soon. All the money in the world can't buy security against stupidity (whether drug-induced, as Max speculated, or not). Well, they're trying. Using public money for public transit is occasionally partially justified in the reduction in traffic accidents. I don't reckon even full body armour, or being strapped into a roll cage, woulda saved that guy. Difficult to tell from the photos. The bicycle in the photo doesn't look all that mangled. I've seen what's left of a bicycle that's been in a much slower moving accident. The bicycle usually ends up looking like a pretzel. At 70 mph, my guess is that there would be components strewn all over the road. Yet, the bicycle in the photo looks largely intact. Several of the reports mentioned that he was riding against the traffic... At expressway closing speed the instantaneous deceleration of the impact -- which Mike will calculate for us (pretty please?) since I'm off on a ride -- will mush his innards; game over, no penetration or skull-cracking required. We are also told he hit that Lexus SUV (maybe a Jeep) hard enough to immobilize it. -- Andre Jute Yep. It's the sudden change in speed, both on impact and during the process of landing, that kills. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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