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Sorry I couldn't post back earlier, had HDD failure and didn't want to
try again until I had Agent reinstalled (Agent makes this sooo much easier). It would seem you have been working Ling and hard to make allies ;c) http://tinyurl.com/cnun3 Smith encourages the perversion of justice No he doesn't, where does he do that? Besides, that link is 5 years old. The Safespeed campaign wasn't around then, hence that is nothing more than one man's personal opinions (opinions which may have changed since then). Therefore your wording of 'encourages' is wrong and misleading. I see nothing no worse than our own government giving out free needles to drug users, or giving out free condoms to those underage. and thinks that arranging for speeding fines to be sent to a grieving family is a "good idea": Actually he didn't, you are twisting words again. He said naming a dead person is a good idea (It IS a good idea, wrong of course but it IS clever), but he didn't pass comment on naming a recently deceased person. http://www.max-boost.co.uk/... blah blah blah The first two times you posted those links it didn't result with anything useful for you, what makes you think a third time will be any better? Meanwhile the safespeed website boasts: "Safe Speed does not, nor has ever, advocated or condoned law breaking or civil disobedience." Which is correct! BTW, where exactly does he say that? I can't find what you claim to be a quote on any of your supplied links. http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/vi...postdays=0&pos I don't see the relevance of the link, are you trying to look for another distraction from the original issue at hand? The man's a perverter of justice You keep saying that but you have never shown proof that he actually does (or has) pervert the course of justice, now you are spinning your own words. what he condones is explicitly against the law. He encourages lawlessness and the most dreadful intrusion on a grieving family imagineable. What does he condone? give me an example and show that he condones it! .. So spindrift, how's the prosecution of IG going? LOL |
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smeggy wrote: Smith encourages the perversion of justice No he doesn't, where does he do that? Perhaps you can remind us who said the following: start quote Ideas for defeating speed measuring equipment. "You could have made up a number plate from a similar make and colour car to yours seen driving around. This is called number plate cloning and is becoming quite common. It would be hard to justify your incorrect cloned plate if stopped by Police. You might fare a little better if your number plate incorporates a simple mistake such as two numbers changed round. For example A 123 ACB instead of A 123 ABC. If stopped you could simply claim that it must be an error." "Don't be too keen to wash the winter filth off your car! Don't be too keen to remove that bike rack from the back. If your number plate falls off or gets broken, don't be in too much of a hurry to get it replaced. We hear the motorcycle chain lubricant in a spray can will make a few usefully unreadable streaks or blobs. Or do a little mudslinging; mud stuck on the numberplate could well obscure enough of the numbers and letters. In some areas kids think it is funny to attach black tape to a number plate to make the numbers and letters different; this is a trend well worth encouraging." end quote Now that does rather look like 'encouraging the perversion of justice'. He then went on to say: "We should make every effort to appear calm, reasonable, responsible, honest and accurate." And that sounds very much like 'Please try to hide the truth about our real motives'. John B |
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Smith encourages the perversion of justice
No he doesn't, where does he do that? Perhaps you can remind us who said the following: start quote Ideas for defeating speed measuring equipment. Now that does rather look like 'encouraging the perversion of justice'. That's not encouragement, they were merely ideas reproduced from publicly available pages from the web. Here's the definition for you: "encouragement: the expression of approval and support" Besides, you're another who uses the wrong tense; those pages have not been available on the Safespeed website for years. By your definition, I could say that spindrift recently encouraged the 'perversion of justice' simply by linking to those pages. |
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smeggy wrote: Smith encourages the perversion of justice No he doesn't, where does he do that? Perhaps you can remind us who said the following: start quote Ideas for defeating speed measuring equipment. Now that does rather look like 'encouraging the perversion of justice'. That's not encouragement, they were merely ideas reproduced from publicly available pages from the web. Here's the definition for you: "encouragement: the expression of approval and support" Let's highlight "In some areas kids think it is funny to attach black tape to a number plate to make the numbers and letters different; this is a trend well worth encouraging." Err, he said "well worth encouraging". That looks pretty much like encouragement to me, even using your definition. Besides, you're another who uses the wrong tense; Who cares. He said it. ...and a lot more. A reason he removed the pages was that he didn't like people using it against him. Indeed he then went on to proclainm that the information was available on other websites and provided links to them. Of course you may believe that leopards change their spots..... John B |
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"That's not encouragement, they were merely ideas reproduced from
publicly available pages from the web. " Encouraging something isn't encouragement? Welcome to the wacky world of safespeed. This thread is illuminative in the tactics used by proven liars and perverters of justice like Paul Smith. We have the usual threats, playground insults and lies from the speedophile contingent when they realise their arguments have failed, and an almost hysterical desire to make the argument personal. I think the pro speeding lobby are like the classic absurdly self-important driver who asserts that he is the only safe driver on the road! Put it this way. Easyjet fly to Krakow. You can take a bus or train from Krakow to the small town of OSWIECEM and tour the camp there. You can see block 11, the punishment block where children were castrated, prisoners were tortured and Father Kolbe was starved to death. Over a million and a half people died in squalor and despair. And the pro-speeding lobby have the gall, the sheer affrontery to compare the introduction of safety cameras to The Holocaust. jamie_duff Location: Aberdeenshire Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:39 am Post subject: This is the Forth (sic) Reich starting now in London. http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7176 smeggy Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: I reckon the SCPs are trying to drum up support any way they can, this time by giving a recognised purpose to these 'hitler youth' who quite obviously don't have a life of their own. http://www.safespeed.org.uk/forum/vi...highlight=nazi Smeggy, a return flight to Krakow costs less than £50. I'll even pay your fare if you visit Auschwitz and discover for your self that comparing a £60 traffic fine to what you will see there is beneath contempt and reveals nothing so much as your complete hysteria over this subject. You should really apologise for what you wrote on Safespeed , havinge an opinon on road safety is fine but comparing yourself to persecuted jews suggests to me that you have some perspective issue. Would you like to explain why you compare yourself to persecuted jews smeggy? |
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Err, he said "well worth encouraging".
That looks pretty much like encouragement to me, even using your definition. So are those his words or, as I already said, words he reproduced from other pages, just like you just did? Can I now report John B to the authorities? Besides, you're another who uses the wrong tense; Who cares 'Who cares'? Did you do anything bad or harbour what you would now consider to be such thoughts when you were younger? If so should we still be berating you for it? That quote, among many others, was gleaned from a newspaper reports, PS merely republished it (much like you did just then). Some background: PS initially set up SS as a hobby believing that speed cameras were causing injustice - which they indeed were and still a people losing their jobs while driving safely. At that time it seemed natural to him to stand up against such injustice, responding with like measures. After a while he began looking at the bigger picture and found problems with the claims from the SCPs and the government; it was then he realised that cameras were undermining road safety. Armed with the data it enough to convince him to go full time as a road safety campaigner. Those pages then became irrelevant to the new campaign and its objectives hence they were removed. That was 3 years ago. Of course you may believe that leopards change their spots..... If by that you mean removing pages from the site, then yes one can believe it. After several threads on the subject, if that's the best people can come up with to discredit PS, then I needn't have bothered. |
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You should really apologise for what you wrote on Safespeed , havinge
an opinon on road safety is fine but comparing yourself to persecuted jews suggests to me that you have some perspective issue. Would you like to explain why you compare yourself to persecuted jews smeggy? I did no such thing and you know it. For anyone who hasn't killfiled spinny, please read the relevent thread he http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/show...102426&page=10 I deserve an apology from you. |
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smeggy wrote: Err, he said "well worth encouraging". That looks pretty much like encouragement to me, even using your definition. So are those his words or, as I already said, words he reproduced from other pages, just like you just did? Don't be such a prat. That quote, among many others, was gleaned from a newspaper reports, PS merely republished it ROTFLOL After several threads on the subject, if that's the best people can come up with to discredit PS, then I needn't have bothered. No one needs to discredit him or SS. He has managed it himself admirably and it is doubly pleasing to see you continuing the good work. John B |
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Don't be such a prat.
ROTFLOL That's right, shy away from giving a reasonable answer. No one needs to discredit him or SS. He has managed it himself admirably and it is doubly pleasing to see you continuing the good work. So why is he gaining in public stature? Why is his work increasingly referred to in the media as a 'road safety campaign'? Given the years of widespread public attention, surely someone would have taken him down by now if he was lying or perverting the course of justice? Or is it because no-one can fault his claims that speed cameras are not as effective as the SCPs claim? |
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smeggy wrote: Don't be such a prat. ROTFLOL That's right, shy away from giving a reasonable answer. No one needs to discredit him or SS. He has managed it himself admirably and it is doubly pleasing to see you continuing the good work. So why is he gaining in public stature? Why is his work increasingly referred to in the media as a 'road safety campaign'? Given the years of widespread public attention, surely someone would have taken him down by now if he was lying or perverting the course of justice? Or is it because no-one can fault his claims that speed cameras are not as effective as the SCPs claim? uk.tosspot is thataway I v I I I v I I I v |
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