Issues with folding bicycles on European trains?

On 2004-07-01 19:27 +0000, David Martin wrote:
On 1/7/04 8:19 pm, in article ,
"Whingin' Pom" wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:41:53 GMT, Miguel Cruz ()
wrote:

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
"Colin Blackburn" wrote:
Finchley Road.
Green Park.

Ealing Broadway, and Colin, you're in Spoon so the double reverse is
blocked.

Nice try. There's no Spoon until someone's passed through Tooting Bec.

Dollis Hill.

East Cheam.

Hainault, for Bank.

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On 1/7/04 9:58 pm, in article ,
"Andrew Chadwick" wrote:

On 2004-07-01 19:27 +0000, David Martin wrote:
On 1/7/04 8:19 pm, in article ,
"Whingin' Pom" wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:41:53 GMT, Miguel Cruz ()
wrote:

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
"Colin Blackburn" wrote:
Finchley Road.
Green Park.

Ealing Broadway, and Colin, you're in Spoon so the double reverse is
blocked.

Nice try. There's no Spoon until someone's passed through Tooting Bec.

Dollis Hill.

East Cheam.

Hainault, for Bank.

Out of turn, Walford via Canada Wharf using the Eastern omnibus shuffle.

...d

Andrew Chadwick wrote:
On 2004-07-01 19:27 +0000, David Martin wrote:
On 1/7/04 8:19 pm, in article
, "Whingin' Pom"
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 12:41:53 GMT, Miguel Cruz ()
wrote:

Just zis Guy, you know?
wrote:
"Colin Blackburn" wrote:
Finchley Road.
Green Park.

Ealing Broadway, and Colin, you're in Spoon so the double reverse
is blocked.

Nice try. There's no Spoon until someone's passed through Tooting
Bec.

Dollis Hill.

East Cheam.

Hainault, for Bank.

Is that via Woodford or Newbury Park?

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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:00:36 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
wrote in message :

Hainault, for Bank.
Is that via Woodford or Newbury Park?

Hainault? Via Badger Bank, surely?

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 10:00:36 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
wrote in message :

Hainault, for Bank.
Is that via Woodford or Newbury Park?

Hainault? Via Badger Bank, surely?

(he skratch his head and a hale of beetles fall out)

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On Fri, 2 Jul 2004 12:15:28 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
wrote in message :

Hainault? Via Badger Bank, surely?
(he skratch his head and a hale of beetles fall out)

Requires poor French allowing Hainault to be confused with Hinault.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

Requires poor French allowing Hainault to be confused with Hinault.

Ah! A-t-il dit des mensonges au Parlement?

Mushroom, mushroom.

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On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 10:40:26 -0400, "James Silverton"
wrote (more or less):


"Peter File" wrote in message
...
The name "tube" appeared early in the 20th century when the deep
level
lines first opened with their small diameter tunnels. It is now
often
used (incorrectly) by the general public to mean any Underground
line.
"I'll take the Tube" is an expression commonly heard in London.
The
sub surface lines are the Circle, District, East London,
Hammersmith &
City and Metropolitan Lines. Only the others, the Bakerloo,
Central,
Jubilee, Northern, Piccadilly, Victoria and Waterloo & City Lines
are
true tube lines.

Right I'll remember that on my next trip from Harrow on the Hill to
Waterloo.
'Im taking the surface/cut'n'cover to Baker St and then the tube to
Waterloo'



This brings back memories! On my first visit to London, as a boy of 11
more years ago than I am going to admit, I asked a very proper City
type with umbrella and Derby (Bowler?) where was the nearest Tube
Station. He assumed a puzzled expression in then said in a superior
fashion, "Oh, you mean the Underground Station!"

Weird. This sounds much more like the supercilious response one would
expect if you asked for the whereabouts of the nearest /subway/
station.


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At 6/25/2004 09:06 PM, I wrote:
Was going to take the folding bicycle to the UK on Tuesday by aircraft
then Cambridge, Brussels, Berlin and Hamburg by train. Any issues or
suggestions? ...

Thanks for all the suggestions.

If I put the bicycle in a carry bag I assume it can be taken as normal
luggage ...

Bicycle bags worked fine on Qantas aircraft and on UK, Eurostar,
Brussels and German trains.

The intention is not to go on long cycling tours, just short day trips
around the city centre, with luggage left at a hotel. ...

The bicycles worked well in Cambridge and Berlin. This is an excellent
way to see cities.

.... problem of transporting the bicycle and luggage to and from planes
and trains. Putting the bicycle bag on top of a small wheeled cabin
bag (with
luggage in it) when walking ...

Only an issue on the London underground, with lots of stairs.

.... strapping the bag to the top of the bicycle carrier and riding the
bicycle seems to be workable. Because the bike has small wheels the
load is low down, about the level panniers would be on a conventional
bicycle....

Didn't work as it made the bicycle topple over backwards.

.... Towing the wheeled bag behind the bike carrier (with the bag
handle extended as a tow bar), seems to work. But the bag wheels are
too small and noisy for road use. ...

Worked well. The wheels were noisy, but it even worked on
cobblestones.

.... I realize that specially designed hard cases are available to put
bicycles in ...

At a display of bag making at the Berlin Technical Museium there was a
semi-rigid wheeled bag with larger rubber wheels (about 70mm), which
looked ideal. These are waterproof like a hard case, but flexible and
light like a cloth bag. There were on sale branded "Sintesis" in a
German department store for about 169 Euro.

ps: Currently on a German high speed "ICE" train between Berlin and
Hamburg. Will do a web report with photos in a few days.


Tom Worthington FACS
Director, Tomw Communications Pty Ltd ABN: 17 088 714 309
http://www.tomw.net.au PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617

Hi,

I've taken 2 different brompton folders to: the netherlands, belgium,
germany, france, jamaica, and around the US. on planes or trains I just
fold it, put it in it's bag and either check it on planes or just put it
in the luggage rack (or next to) at the end of the car with my luggage.

ttyl

akia

Tom Worthington wrote:

At 6/25/2004 09:06 PM, I wrote:
Was going to take the folding bicycle to the UK on Tuesday by aircraft
then Cambridge, Brussels, Berlin and Hamburg by train. Any issues or
suggestions? ...

Thanks for all the suggestions.

If I put the bicycle in a carry bag I assume it can be taken as normal
luggage ...

Bicycle bags worked fine on Qantas aircraft and on UK, Eurostar,
Brussels and German trains.

The intention is not to go on long cycling tours, just short day trips
around the city centre, with luggage left at a hotel. ...

The bicycles worked well in Cambridge and Berlin. This is an excellent
way to see cities.

... problem of transporting the bicycle and luggage to and from planes
and trains. Putting the bicycle bag on top of a small wheeled cabin
bag (with
luggage in it) when walking ...

Only an issue on the London underground, with lots of stairs.

... strapping the bag to the top of the bicycle carrier and riding the
bicycle seems to be workable. Because the bike has small wheels the
load is low down, about the level panniers would be on a conventional
bicycle....

Didn't work as it made the bicycle topple over backwards.

... Towing the wheeled bag behind the bike carrier (with the bag
handle extended as a tow bar), seems to work. But the bag wheels are
too small and noisy for road use. ...

Worked well. The wheels were noisy, but it even worked on
cobblestones.

... I realize that specially designed hard cases are available to put
bicycles in ...

At a display of bag making at the Berlin Technical Museium there was a
semi-rigid wheeled bag with larger rubber wheels (about 70mm), which
looked ideal. These are waterproof like a hard case, but flexible and
light like a cloth bag. There were on sale branded "Sintesis" in a
German department store for about 169 Euro.

ps: Currently on a German high speed "ICE" train between Berlin and
Hamburg. Will do a web report with photos in a few days.


Tom Worthington FACS
Director, Tomw Communications Pty Ltd ABN: 17 088 714 309
http://www.tomw.net.au PO Box 13, Belconnen ACT 2617