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Race X-lites in rain
Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll
be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike |
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"Passman" wrote: Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike If you check the rims closely, you will see a small hole to allow any water to drain if the hole is down when you put up the bike. Send that rain here, please! HAND |
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H M Leary wrote:
In article , "Passman" wrote: Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike If you check the rims closely, you will see a small hole to allow any water to drain if the hole is down when you put up the bike. OP was asking about the hubs, however. FWIW my Bonty Race Lites still spin easy after two years; haven't touched 'em (don't know how for one thing)... Not much rain in San Diego, of course, but have gotten caught a few times... |
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I haven't had any problems, and I've been caught in torrential rain a few
times while riding mine. -- Bob C. "Of course it hurts. The trick is not minding that it hurts." T. E. Lawrence (of Arabia) "Passman" wrote in message ... Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike |
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Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll
be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike The Race X-Lites may be better than many (at keeping rain out of the bearings) but it can still be a problem. A little rain isn't going to kill them, but if you're riding in hour after hour of the stuff, you'll likely see some get past the seals. You might pop off the axle caps and shoot a bunch of extra grease into them, as a barrier to keep the water out. I would also consider popping the axle out after the ride, to allow things to dry out. This is a matter of "Do as I say, not as I do" as my hubs get exposed to pretty nasty rain during the winter, and I don't take care of them like I should. I have yet to find any hubs that combine high performance (relatively low rolling resistance), light weight and high water resistance. I know of many that claim otherwise, but we sure do replace a lot of bearings in them! I almost wish that companies would stop even trying to keep water out of the "sealed" bearings (usually by putting caps over them) and have exposed seals that we could easily pry off, allowing us to re-grease the bearings as need be. By the way, I was fortunate to get to ride in one of the Discovery team cars during a stage of the '05 Tour de France, with one of their two mechanics in the back seat. I asked him about the way they clean their bikes; seems like customers see photos of them hosing down the bikes, which I know for a fact wrecks bearings. So how do their wheels stand up to that sort of abuse (during the bike cleaning)? Turns out they don't need to; they typically replace their wheels every 500 miles or so. Why? Because they can. Why bother with bearing maintenance (you've probably seen the old films showing a mechanic tearing apart hubs, bottom brackets & headsets every single day) when you can just treat them as a disposable item? Boggles the mind. I'd sure like to be the guy who gets the "old" wheels... --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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"Bill Sornson" wrote: H M Leary wrote: In article , "Passman" wrote: Hello, I'm going to be riding tomorrow and they're calling for rain. I'll be using my new Bontrager Race X-Lite wheels and was wondering if I should be worried about water getting into the hubs. Anyone know how well these hubs are sealed against water leakage? Thanks, Mike If you check the rims closely, you will see a small hole to allow any water to drain if the hole is down when you put up the bike. OP was asking about the hubs, however. FWIW my Bonty Race Lites still spin easy after two years; haven't touched 'em (don't know how for one thing)... Not much rain in San Diego, of course, but have gotten caught a few times... So he did! Maybe I should larn to red agam!... He probably has those crappy Trek sealed bearings that come with the X-Lites. Failure rates run around 50% in my cycling club. They get a lot of wobble. Others have no problem. Maybe because the bearings have been replaced so frequently and my LBS certainly applies enough grease that I have not had any problem. ( of course it doesn't rain here anymore ) HAND |
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Thanks for all the advice. As it turns out, the rain was about 50 miles north and 50 miles south of the race route today, so I guess I lucked out.....even though we really need the rain. Our team took first place in the mixed under 40 category. I wouldn't mind a set of their "old" wheels myself. Mike The Race X-Lites may be better than many (at keeping rain out of the bearings) but it can still be a problem. A little rain isn't going to kill them, but if you're riding in hour after hour of the stuff, you'll likely see some get past the seals. You might pop off the axle caps and shoot a bunch of extra grease into them, as a barrier to keep the water out. I would also consider popping the axle out after the ride, to allow things to dry out. This is a matter of "Do as I say, not as I do" as my hubs get exposed to pretty nasty rain during the winter, and I don't take care of them like I should. I have yet to find any hubs that combine high performance (relatively low rolling resistance), light weight and high water resistance. I know of many that claim otherwise, but we sure do replace a lot of bearings in them! I almost wish that companies would stop even trying to keep water out of the "sealed" bearings (usually by putting caps over them) and have exposed seals that we could easily pry off, allowing us to re-grease the bearings as need be. By the way, I was fortunate to get to ride in one of the Discovery team cars during a stage of the '05 Tour de France, with one of their two mechanics in the back seat. I asked him about the way they clean their bikes; seems like customers see photos of them hosing down the bikes, which I know for a fact wrecks bearings. So how do their wheels stand up to that sort of abuse (during the bike cleaning)? Turns out they don't need to; they typically replace their wheels every 500 miles or so. Why? Because they can. Why bother with bearing maintenance (you've probably seen the old films showing a mechanic tearing apart hubs, bottom brackets & headsets every single day) when you can just treat them as a disposable item? Boggles the mind. I'd sure like to be the guy who gets the "old" wheels... --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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The Motorola team used to dump stuff each off season up in Wisconsin.
A buddy had Max Sciandri's Caloi and another picked up some nice tubular wheels for a song. I imagine Disco does something similar. 500 miles seems REALLY low to me, but who knows. I've probably put a good couple k on my Race Lites (5.2SL came with them) and they are fine. My Race X-Lite Carbon's from ~2003 have LOTS of miles on them with no noticeable issues. They are some seriously solid wheels. |
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Mike Jacoubowsky wrote: By the way, I was fortunate to get to ride in one of the Discovery team cars during a stage of the '05 Tour de France, with one of their two mechanics in the back seat. I asked him about the way they clean their bikes; seems like customers see photos of them hosing down the bikes, which I know for a fact wrecks bearings. So how do their wheels stand up to that sort of abuse (during the bike cleaning)? Turns out they don't need to; they typically replace their wheels every 500 miles or so. Why? Because they can. Why bother with bearing maintenance (you've probably seen the old films showing a mechanic tearing apart hubs, bottom brackets & headsets every single day) when you can just treat them as a disposable item? Boggles the mind. I'd sure like to be the guy who gets the "old" wheels... Reality, what a concept. Glad you mentioned this for all those that say some type of something was used in the 'TdF', means anything to the rest of us. Easy to use anything, when you have a van of spares, a crew of wrenches, that make the bicycles 'new' each day. |
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On Sun, 14 Aug 2005 05:12:45 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky"
wrote: By the way, I was fortunate to get to ride in one of the Discovery team cars during a stage of the '05 Tour de France, with one of their two mechanics in the back seat. I asked him about the way they clean their bikes; seems like customers see photos of them hosing down the bikes, which I know for a fact wrecks bearings. So how do their wheels stand up to that sort of abuse (during the bike cleaning)? Turns out they don't need to; they typically replace their wheels every 500 miles or so. Why? Because they can. Why bother with bearing maintenance (you've probably seen the old films showing a mechanic tearing apart hubs, bottom brackets & headsets every single day) when you can just treat them as a disposable item? Boggles the mind. I'd sure like to be the guy who gets the "old" wheels... I suspect that the old stuff that can be refurbished probably goes back to Trek and is, in fact, refurbished there. Still, though, for a single-event team like Disco.. replacing wheelsets every 2-3 stages still only gets you to a bit over half a dozen in the race, per rider. Given how much sponsoring money is involved on all sides, and how expensive really good mechanics' time is, and the slightly greater chance of something going wrong if it's newly refurbished and untested, it might very well be worth it. Jasper |
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