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broken my neck.
ooooooooooo highly unlikely. you beg the question. if you are quick, simply step off n open a cold one. |
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On Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:49:17 PM UTC-4, Phil W Lee wrote:
Sir Ridesalot considered Thu, 3 Apr 2014 08:28:56 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: On Thursday, April 3, 2014 11:21:50 AM UTC-4, Clive George wrote: On 03/04/2014 15:36, Sir Ridesalot wrote: There you go again Frank, denigrating anyone who does not agree with you! I absolutely refuse to get into another useless arguent with you. I know what I posted and I know what you posted. I lso know that my reading comprehension is excellent and I have the degrees that prove it. I don't know what you posted and I don't know what Frank posted. Do you have a link to the offending conversation? It was somtime in 2010. Frank has done similar since then too. Someone posts something that happens and in effect Frank calls the a liar and states that they are exaggerating the event. I went throught this helmet strike business twice and I have no interest in going through it a third time. Which is why you keep bringing it up, of course. All the posts have been dragged out repeatedly, and your lack of comprehension explained in excruciating detail. You just don't know when to stop digging. ............... OK lets try for civilized discourse..... |
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On 4/9/2014 9:35 PM, Phil W Lee wrote:
Clive George considered Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:32:49 +0100 the perfect time to write: On 04/04/2014 19:21, Dan O wrote: Which brings me to the "stupid" part. As an argument against helmet use, this "extra diameter" - while a problem, yes - just strikes me as disingenuous, because it requires _being concerned about hitting your head_. Simply does not compute with not valuing a helmet. That paragraph doesn't make sense to me. Aren't people instinctively concerned about hitting their head? We have senses that are remarkably accurate at telling us our overall dimensions and position, and we spend a lifetime getting used to that. Sticking additional material around the edge of part of our bodies disrupts that sense, and we tend not to know how much clearance we have anymore. You can see this with fast growing teenagers, when they have just had a growth spurt and are still getting used to the new dimensions and adjusting their propriaception to suit. For further, if mundane evidence: Some years ago, my kids gave me a fancy sport watch, a model from Nike with compass, altimeter, barometer, thermometer, plus the common timekeeping functions. It's kind of fun, although I'd never have bought it myself, even if it were inexpensive. Why? Because it protrudes 2 cm from my wrist. That's enough to get in the way. And sure enough, the watch now looks like it's been through several military battles. One is supposed to level the watch to use the compass, but the miniature level is destroyed. There are scratches in the crystal and gouges in the stainless steel body. I frequently bang it on hard objects, everything from boulders during hikes, to car parts during mechanical work. If it were made of styrofoam, I suppose I could claim it "Saved My Wrist!!" dozens of times. Similarly, I think that, unless you're a very sedentary person, wearing a bike helmet all day long would soon produce false evidence of great "protection." I'm sure I'd dent it on the kayaks hanging in my garage, the shelves in my workshop, the low doorframe into our attic crawl spaces, the tree branches in the yard, etc. etc. I realize, though, that only if I dent it while cycling would there be people claiming it "saved" me. Bike head injuries are very, very special to helmet promoters. That's why they get all the publicity and all the calls for protection, despite making up less than 1% of the TBI fatalities. Motorists are spared all the helmet promotion, despite suffering 40 or 50 times more TBI fatalities, more "vegetables," and more health system cost. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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