Wear that Helmet II .. or not

Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

MkTm wrote:
Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

The first links relate something that apparently really happened. The last
one relates to a thoroughly discredited "study" with an obviously ridiculous
"finding".

HTH

MkTm wrote:
Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

PS:
http://www.madison.com/tct/photo.php...5/12/45019.jpg

Whole population study THAT! LOL

On Tue, 15 May 2007 04:09:19 GMT, MkTm wrote:

Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

Walker's last point - repeated in the article published in Scientific
American (the original paper appears in the peer-reviewed journal Accidnt
Analysis and Prevention) - is that people "...need to read the research."

It's clear that those who ignore this data are doing themselves (and
others) no good, and possibly harm.

On Mon, 14 May 2007 22:33:32 -0700, "Bill Sornson"
wrote:

MkTm wrote:
Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

PS:
http://www.madison.com/tct/photo.php...5/12/45019.jpg

Whole population study THAT! LOL

How ironic, to read Sorni talking about quality of studies.

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Bill Sornson wrote:

MkTm wrote:

Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

The first links relate something that apparently really happened.

Try again. Explain to me how a helmet gets flattened while someone's
head is in it, yet his head remains unharmed. The foam hat in the
picture does not have any stuctural integrity left, if it ever did to
begin with. How do you propose that it protected the guys noggin?
Hel-magic?

The truck ran over the helmet in the picture, but not over the head in
the picture. That's all. In being crushed while his head wasn't
inside, it Obviously Saved His Life (tm), though.

Chalo

On 15 May 2007 03:05:18 -0700, Chalo wrote:

Bill Sornson wrote:

MkTm wrote:

Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

The first links relate something that apparently really happened.

Try again. Explain to me how a helmet gets flattened while someone's
head is in it, yet his head remains unharmed. The foam hat in the
picture does not have any stuctural integrity left, if it ever did to
begin with. How do you propose that it protected the guys noggin?
Hel-magic?

The truck ran over the helmet in the picture, but not over the head in
the picture. That's all. In being crushed while his head wasn't
inside, it Obviously Saved His Life (tm), though.


Bill "doesn't need data to make decisions" (his own words).

On May 15, 12:09 am, MkTm wrote:
Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head
snip
Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving
snip

Helmet wars traditionally occur during the off season. Now's a great
time to get on your bike.

Regards,
Larry

On May 14, 11:09 pm, MkTm wrote:
Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...hp?ntid=133934

GOOD THING HE GOT HIS HEAD OUT OF THAT THING IN TIME!!!!!

(see "Chalo", below").

One un-but-then-oh-so lucky dude!

Hint: roll the truck over the helllllmet without the head inside
(absent a willing volunteer) and see WTF happens. Crunch!

Sorry, not in the mood for helmet BS this morning. Honda AC, DOA. $$$.
Maybe they'll make it work now??? --D-y

On 15 May 2007 03:05:18 -0700, Chalo wrote:

Bill Sornson wrote:

MkTm wrote:

Truck crushes biker's helmet but not head

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/14...es_bikers.html
http://www.madison.com/tct/news/index.php?ntid=133934

Then again ..

Bike helmets inspire unsafe driving

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/13...s_inspire.html

The first links relate something that apparently really happened.

Try again. Explain to me how a helmet gets flattened while someone's
head is in it, yet his head remains unharmed. The foam hat in the
picture does not have any stuctural integrity left, if it ever did to
begin with. How do you propose that it protected the guys noggin?
Hel-magic?

The truck ran over the helmet in the picture, but not over the head in
the picture. That's all. In being crushed while his head wasn't
inside, it Obviously Saved His Life (tm), though.

Well, yeah!

He was wearing a helmet. He got into a collision with a truck. He lived.
Obviously the helmet saved his life. Everybody who ever had an accident without
a helmet is dead or brain damaged. /sarcasm

What I want to know:

Obviously, that helmet is not suited to prevent crushing of his head. Which is
what obviously didn't happen. So no credit to the lid for that. But, he did
suffer a concussion, which is precisely the sort of injury that such a helmet
might possibly prevent. So this magic helmet is getting credit for a save it
wasn't designed for and is not getting blamed for permitting the injury that it
was intended to prevent.

Ron