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Upgrade from SPD to ?
I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals,
mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). I want to upgrade to a real road pedal, probably Look or Time. My main reason for upgrading is the SPDs are a pain to click into. The cleat & pedal are so small, I have a hard time getting in. I have to hunt around until it finally clicks in. I usually have to pull up to make sure I'm really clicked in. Lately, I've had a few occasions where they have pulled out, both when climbing a hill and when my pedal stroke gets sloppy from being tired. On the plus side, I can walk in the shoes (about the only plus). So I'm looking for something that I can step into and go easily, or at least pedal without my foot slipping off (like the SPDs do) if I'm not fully engaged. The large platform of Look or Time might solve this. I also need a system where the cleat can be adjusted for turned out feet. Both of my feet turn out, my right more than my left. My right cleat is turned to about the limit of its range on my shoe. I'm looking mostly at Look and Time, and from past posts, these are my impressions: Look advantages: lower cost, adjustable cleat, possibly easier entry/exit than time. Look disadvantages: replacing those plastic cleats, squeaks, durability? Time advantages: lower profile (closer to spindle), more float in more directions, more rugged cleat, my biking buddy likes them. Time disadvantages: expensive, not many shoe options (Time only?), can't mount cleat to compensate for turned out feet (but float compensates for this?). A little harder to walk in than Look. I think both are weighted to hang in a consistant position, so I wouldn't have to worry about flipping the pedal over with my toe before clicking in. I also looked at speedplay, but it looks like they are much harder walk in than look or time, since the mechanism is in the cleat instead of pedal. How do you get out of them with large amount of float they have? I would get new shoes along with the pedals, so compatibility with an existing shoe is not an issue. Weight is irrelevant. I'm willing pay extra for Time if the system is better. Thanks. |
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I would go with the Looks. I tried the SPD's and found it hard to engage
the pedal compared to Look. My feet also turn out and I adjusted the cleats with no problem. Of course you don't want your ankle bone to hit the crank so be careful. I periodically wipe some hand cream on the cleats and I have had no squeaks. As for durability, I've had cleats last 2 years. I occasionally sand down the rough edges but no problem at all. Look pedals have come down in weight too. I bought mine on EBay. There are some great deals there. Z |
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Mark- I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals,
mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). I want to upgrade to a real road pedal, probably Look or Time. BRBR Look is a good choice, Time, we are three for three with problems of these... Mark My main reason for upgrading is the SPDs are a pain to click into. BRBR Speedplay, specifically the Zero- Mark I also need a system where the cleat can be adjusted for turned out feet. Both of my feet turn out, my right more than my left. BRBR Adjustable in both directions, floatwise- Mark- Time advantages: lower profile (closer to spindle), more float in more directions, more rugged cleat, my biking buddy likes them. BRBR Does he have the Impact? if so, durable cleat isn't one of them. Mark- I also looked at speedplay, but it looks like they are much harder walk in than look or time, since the mechanism is in the cleat instead of pedal. How do you get out of them with large amount of float they have? BRBR Not tru, use covers, don't judge a road pedal by walking ease..also Look at ZERO model. Mark Weight is irrelevant. I'm willing pay extra for Time if the system is better. BRBR Older Time isgone, all are Impact now and not a great pedal, IMO- Peter Chisholm Vecchio's Bicicletteria 1833 Pearl St. Boulder, CO, 80302 (303)440-3535 http://www.vecchios.com "Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene" |
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Mark Heiple wrote in message ...
I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals, mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). I want to upgrade to a real road pedal, probably Look or Time. Hi, I went from an SPD [Shimano 324] to a road bike pedal and shoes. I now have the 324s on my old road bike. I never had much problem with entry, after the first couple hundred miles, but did experience hot spots. Could be the fault of my shoes. Anyway, after reading a bunch of reviews on http://www.roadbikereview.com/Homecrx.aspx I went from my first choice of Look, to the Shimano SPD-SL PD-R600. I got them at my LBS, but as dookie mentioned, they can be purchased on Ebay for $87, plus shipping. In the reviews that I read, some people who had gone from Look to Shimanos, said that the SPD-SL cleats were a little easier to walk in and no one mentioned squeeking. I have had some bird noises come from my 324s and it really bothered me. So I wanted a quiet pedal. I have had no problems of pulling out when unexpected and I have them adjusted to the least tension. As for shoes, I got a good deal on a pair of Pearl Izumi Vortex, which I like a lot. And with the Shimano or Look, you won't need an adaptor. I've got 565 miles on the pedals and shoes, with no problems, noise, etc. So count me as another vote for the Shimano SPD-SL. Life is Good! Jeff My main reason for upgrading is the SPDs are a pain to click into. The cleat & pedal are so small, I have a hard time getting in. I have to hunt around until it finally clicks in. I usually have to pull up to make sure I'm really clicked in. Lately, I've had a few occasions where they have pulled out, both when climbing a hill and when my pedal stroke gets sloppy from being tired. On the plus side, I can walk in the shoes (about the only plus). So I'm looking for something that I can step into and go easily, or at least pedal without my foot slipping off (like the SPDs do) if I'm not fully engaged. The large platform of Look or Time might solve this. I also need a system where the cleat can be adjusted for turned out feet. Both of my feet turn out, my right more than my left. My right cleat is turned to about the limit of its range on my shoe. I'm looking mostly at Look and Time, and from past posts, these are my impressions: Look advantages: lower cost, adjustable cleat, possibly easier entry/exit than time. Look disadvantages: replacing those plastic cleats, squeaks, durability? Time advantages: lower profile (closer to spindle), more float in more directions, more rugged cleat, my biking buddy likes them. Time disadvantages: expensive, not many shoe options (Time only?), can't mount cleat to compensate for turned out feet (but float compensates for this?). A little harder to walk in than Look. I think both are weighted to hang in a consistant position, so I wouldn't have to worry about flipping the pedal over with my toe before clicking in. I also looked at speedplay, but it looks like they are much harder walk in than look or time, since the mechanism is in the cleat instead of pedal. How do you get out of them with large amount of float they have? I would get new shoes along with the pedals, so compatibility with an existing shoe is not an issue. Weight is irrelevant. I'm willing pay extra for Time if the system is better. Thanks. |
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Mark Heiple wrote:
I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals, mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). Thanks. Take a good look at any system that willl allow you to move you foot laterally. SPD's are very rigid and do not allow much movement at all but are very good for the powerstroke in my case since i pull up as well as push the pedal down. This motion is possible with other pedals but Speedplays system has been described as "walking on ice" at times. In my 17 years of cycling i have tried it all from toestraps to Look, Time, SPD, Speedplay - and it does feel like a slippery piece of soap you are walking. Don't judge a system by how it will "walk" sine the least amount of time is spent walking. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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Mark Heiple wrote:
I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals, mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). Thanks. Take a good look at any system that willl allow you to move you foot laterally. SPD's are very rigid and do not allow much movement at all but are very good for the powerstroke in my case since i pull up as well as push the pedal down. This motion is possible with other pedals but Speedplays system has been described as "walking on ice" at times. In my 17 years of cycling i have tried it all from toestraps to Look, Time, SPD, Speedplay - and it does feel like a slippery piece of soap you are walking. Don't judge a system by how it will "walk" sine the least amount of time is spent walking. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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I went from spds(sucked) to spd-rs(sucked more) to speed plays(which are
very nice but I started wearing grooves in them) to the "lance" dura ace pedal. The lance pedal is awesome but if you want speedplays get the zero model. The zero cleat is different and won't wear grooves in your axle like my X2 cleat did. "Mark Heiple" wrote in message ... ... |
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Mark Heiple wrote:
: I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals, : mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). I have 1-sided SPD pedals, few problems. Only on recumbents with low bottom bracket I get some hot foot syndrome. Maybe you could try road type SPD pedals. I have also cheap mountain type SPD pedals, which release incredibly easily. (I use the sPD cleat that came with my first pedals, not the one that came with these.) : I want to upgrade to a real road pedal, probably Look or Time. Looking forward to riding Look here. : Look disadvantages: replacing those plastic cleats, squeaks, durability? A pair of Look cleats can go for $8. For $14 you can get covers for the cleats, so walking is easier. Cheapest Look pedals I saw were just $40. -- Risto Varanka | http://www.helsinki.fi/~rvaranka/hpv/hpv.html varis at no spam please iki fi |
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"Mark Heiple" wrote in message ... In article , (Qui si parla Campagnolo) wrote: Look is a good choice, Time, we are three for three with problems of these... What problems are you seeing with Time? Durability, or function (problems clicking in/out, float, etc.?) Speedplay, specifically the Zero- I just checked roadbikereview.com, and there were some complaints about durability of the pedals/cleats (started pulling out), and a smallish contact area. The "pedaling on ice" part sounded like it might take some getting used to. Would it contribute to knee or ankle problems by allowing bad knee/ankle positions? The benefit of Speedplay (X1-3) is that your feet/knees find their "natural" position without fighting springs/retention devices. When I was selling them I used to warn people about the riding on ball bearings feeling. It takes about 7-10 rides for the feeling to disappear. After the initial learning curve, they're one of the best pedals for entry/exit. Being two-sided, all you have to do is find the cleat and step. No flipping, no squirming. The X series have light spring tension holding you in, so all you do is turn far enough, and pop! you're out. I was training on the road and racing these pedals at the track for a while and never had a problem pulling out. If your pedaling motion is all funky, you may. I've never tried the Zeros. I changed to SPD-Rs right before they came out. If I'd known... I really don't care for the SPD-Rs, but I have 3 pair of them, so am stuck for the time being. The Zeros probably don't have as big a problem with the pedaling on ball bearings feeling 'cause they don't have as much float. Again, I haven't ridden this model, so am assuming here. If you are concerned about "walkability" the Speedplays aren't the best. They're susceptible to problems if you get dirt in the mechanism. The answer is either a. don't get off in the dirt, or b. covers. I'm trying to decide between the Zeros and SPD-SLs for my road/track bikes. I'm leaning towards the SPD-SLs just because I've got D/A everything else... Mike |
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Check out bebops. I picked up a set from Hitech bikes and love them. I have the mounted to Shimano T092 "touring" shoes because I have to walk about 100 yards during my commute. I really like the setup, the float takes a bit of getting used to (20 degrees), otherwise I haven't had problems with them. They're pretty darn light too. http://www.bebop.com http://www.hi-techbikes.com/cgi/list.cgi?cat=Components Mark Heiple wrote: I currently have SPD pedals and double sided mountain bike pedals, mountain bike shoes (recessed cleat). I want to upgrade to a real road pedal, probably Look or Time. My main reason for upgrading is the SPDs are a pain to click into. The cleat & pedal are so small, I have a hard time getting in. I have to hunt around until it finally clicks in. I usually have to pull up to make sure I'm really clicked in. Lately, I've had a few occasions where they have pulled out, both when climbing a hill and when my pedal stroke gets sloppy from being tired. On the plus side, I can walk in the shoes (about the only plus). So I'm looking for something that I can step into and go easily, or at least pedal without my foot slipping off (like the SPDs do) if I'm not fully engaged. The large platform of Look or Time might solve this. I also need a system where the cleat can be adjusted for turned out feet. Both of my feet turn out, my right more than my left. My right cleat is turned to about the limit of its range on my shoe. I'm looking mostly at Look and Time, and from past posts, these are my impressions: Look advantages: lower cost, adjustable cleat, possibly easier entry/exit than time. Look disadvantages: replacing those plastic cleats, squeaks, durability? Time advantages: lower profile (closer to spindle), more float in more directions, more rugged cleat, my biking buddy likes them. Time disadvantages: expensive, not many shoe options (Time only?), can't mount cleat to compensate for turned out feet (but float compensates for this?). A little harder to walk in than Look. I think both are weighted to hang in a consistant position, so I wouldn't have to worry about flipping the pedal over with my toe before clicking in. I also looked at speedplay, but it looks like they are much harder walk in than look or time, since the mechanism is in the cleat instead of pedal. How do you get out of them with large amount of float they have? I would get new shoes along with the pedals, so compatibility with an existing shoe is not an issue. Weight is irrelevant. I'm willing pay extra for Time if the system is better. Thanks. -- Mark Wolfe http://www.wolfenet.org gpg fingerprint = 42B6 EFEB 5414 AA18 01B7 64AC EF46 F7E6 82F6 8C71 "The bad reputation UNIX has gotten is totally undeserved, laid on by people who don't understand, who have not gotten in there and tried anything." - Jim Joyce, former computer science lecturer at the University of California |
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