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If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the
point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 1:37:41 PM UTC-5, Emanuel Berg wrote:
If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 Your hand? Cheers |
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On 1/17/2018 12:37 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? For most designs, particularly internal gear hubs, axles are finished harder than axle nuts. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:37:35 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote:
If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? Depends on the hub. I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. |
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On 1/17/2018 3:17 PM, Frank Miles wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:37:35 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? Depends on the hub. I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. Every nutted hub I'm familiar with had cones and/or their locknuts just inboard of the dropouts, and axle nuts outboard. That means over-tightening the nuts would just compress the dropout itself, while putting tension on the portion of axle within the dropout. I don't think it would affect the bearings. Quick release hubs are different in that the entire axle gets compressed. That can tighten up the bearing adjustment a bit. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 1/17/2018 2:17 PM, Frank Miles wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:37:35 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? Depends on the hub. I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. ?? I think OP was referring to axle nut torque not bearing locknut pressure. Maybe I was wrong. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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AMuzi wrote:
Depends on the hub. I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. ?? I think OP was referring to axle nut torque not bearing locknut pressure. Maybe I was wrong. No, you are right -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 18/01/18 08:22, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/17/2018 3:17 PM, Frank Miles wrote: On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:37:35 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? Depends on the hub.Â* I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. Every nutted hub I'm familiar with had cones and/or their locknuts just inboard of the dropouts, and axle nuts outboard. That means over-tightening the nuts would just compress the dropout itself, while putting tension on the portion of axle within the dropout. I don't think it would affect the bearings. Quick release hubs are different in that the entire axle gets compressed. That can tighten up the bearing adjustment a bit. Agree. With a solid axle and nut, and horizontal slotted dropouts, I think it is possible in some cases to damage the dropout by spreading the ends apart when the nut is overtightened. -- JS |
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On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:22:32 -0500, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 1/17/2018 3:17 PM, Frank Miles wrote: On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:37:35 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: If one pulls a wheel axle nut too tight, to the point that something is damaged, what will that be? The axle, the thread, the frame, the nut, the tool, the arm pulling the tool, or something else? Depends on the hub. I would be concerned about the bearing races getting dimpled. Every nutted hub I'm familiar with had cones and/or their locknuts just inboard of the dropouts, and axle nuts outboard. That means over-tightening the nuts would just compress the dropout itself, while putting tension on the portion of axle within the dropout. I don't think it would affect the bearings. Quick release hubs are different in that the entire axle gets compressed. That can tighten up the bearing adjustment a bit. Ah, right, agreed. |
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