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Iraq responsibility was promoting "smart growth"
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Baxter wrote: "Matthew T. Russotto" wrote in message et... Fantasy. Utter fantasy. Remove the US occupation and you still have left every grudge, every grievance, every complaint that one Iraqi group has against another, not to mention the complaints they have with Iraq's neighbors (and Iraq's neighbors likely ambitions in Iraq). The idea that Iraq is filled with reasonable people turned to radicalism by the US occupation is simply a fairy tale. Leave them to work out their own problems. Or do you think we should be a Nanny State? Oh, no, I agree that the US should withdraw. I simply disagree about the outcome of that withdrawal. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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Occidental CEO got more than $400 million in 2006
In article ABKTh.2406$vD4.975@bigfe9,
Amy Blankenship wrote: That's plain silly. Republicans don't even let their children watch Harry Potter, because they believe it might lead them to believe in magic. Nonsense. There are many enlightened Republicans who have no problem with magic. THEY don't allow their children to watch Harry Potter because the Malfoys hit a little too close to home. -- There's no such thing as a free lunch, but certain accounting practices can result in a fully-depreciated one. |
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national hypocrisy
Curtis L. Russell wrote:
On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases. Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Has anybody looked at the current generation of high-tech (sic) windmills? They are a joke, and bird killers to boot. The best windmill designs were those that were in use in the 1930's when the TVA project demanded that a farmer take down or disable his windmill to get power to the farm. Obviously that would take enough electricity to pay for running out the electricity so the farmer could have electric lights. The new, 3 skinny blade windmills are a joke since 90% of the air pass right through the gaps. The intake vanes of a modern jet engine show how a windmill should be designed, along with a feathering mechanism for windy days. Too much thinking for the current crop of over-educated dimwits. Bill Baka |
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national hypocrisy
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 00:31:11 -0700, Bill wrote:
Curtis L. Russell wrote: On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases. Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution. Curtis L. Russell Odenton, MD (USA) Just someone on two wheels... Has anybody looked at the current generation of high-tech (sic) windmills? They are a joke, and bird killers to boot. Oh, F the damn birds. Sit under the damn thing with a net, pluck 'em, fry at 350 degrees. The best windmill designs were those that were in use in the 1930's when the TVA project demanded that a farmer take down or disable his windmill to get power to the farm. Obviously that would take enough electricity to pay for running out the electricity so the farmer could have electric lights. The new, 3 skinny blade windmills are a joke since 90% of the air pass right through the gaps. Will still produce 10 Kw from a 27 foot fan in a 12 mph wind, so they can't be all that bad. The intake vanes of a modern jet engine show how a windmill should be designed, along with a feathering mechanism for windy days. Too much thinking for the current crop of over-educated dimwits. Bill Baka |
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promoting "smart growth"
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... - "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message .. . "Baxter" wrote in message ... Do stay on track - the issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Iraqi's or whether we spend a tenth of that on our own people. (and yes, there are reports that elections are not particularly fair in LA.) Then why did you bring up your feeling that the people of Louisiana are somehow downtrodden in a way that Mississippians aren't? Your question is nonsensical. Obviously you don't have an answer then. No, your question is nonsensical in this context. Your question might be more appropriate in context with the US Attorneys firings that are in the news. I see you've learned one of George Conklin's less admirable techniques...If someone disagrees with you or questions you further, declare the comment/question irrelevant, drivel, or nonsensical. Nice :-) Then suppose you detail that relevance for us? That's what I was asking you to do. Let's see - you want *me* to explain the relelavance of *your* response?! That's the sort of thing Conklin does. No, I want you to explain why you think your feeling that the people of New Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden has anything to do with the topic of this threat or even this forum as a whole. And as an aside, do you have any direct experience of the area that was hit by Katrina to base your reaction on? "Feeling that the people of New Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden" are YOUR words - YOU explain them. |
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national hypocrisy
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------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Curtis L. Russell" wrote in message ... On 13 Apr 2007 11:27:43 -0700, "donquijote1954" wrote: As a matter of fact, windmills are a good solution --in some cases. Windmills are a good supplement. In the U.S. with tax breaks and setasides, even the oil companies are buying lots, but its a huge investment and it doesn't add up to much as a percentage of the power needed and in the windiest areas they aren't reliable enough to support even a small grid on their own. Windmills are not a solution. I guess you've never been to the Oregon Coast. |
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Shoud there be a "freedom to pollute"?
"nash" wrote in message news:ZDwTh.64893$6m4.36854@pd7urf1no... "So defined, I repeat, freedom means concretely freedoms of various kinds, which may be at least roughly specified. Among the most fundamental is political freedom, involving some means of control of rulers by the ruled, some protection of the individual against government by legal rights or civil liberties." , and we all know how well that worked out. Sorry could not resist Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics. You are good examples. |
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promoting "smart growth"
"Baxter" wrote in message ... - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Free software - Baxter Codeworks www.baxcode.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... - "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message ... "Baxter" wrote in message ... "Amy Blankenship" wrote in message .. . "Baxter" wrote in message ... Do stay on track - the issue is whether we spend hundreds of billions of dollars on Iraqi's or whether we spend a tenth of that on our own people. (and yes, there are reports that elections are not particularly fair in LA.) Then why did you bring up your feeling that the people of Louisiana are somehow downtrodden in a way that Mississippians aren't? Your question is nonsensical. Obviously you don't have an answer then. No, your question is nonsensical in this context. Your question might be more appropriate in context with the US Attorneys firings that are in the news. I see you've learned one of George Conklin's less admirable techniques...If someone disagrees with you or questions you further, declare the comment/question irrelevant, drivel, or nonsensical. Nice :-) Then suppose you detail that relevance for us? That's what I was asking you to do. Let's see - you want *me* to explain the relelavance of *your* response?! That's the sort of thing Conklin does. No, I want you to explain why you think your feeling that the people of New Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden has anything to do with the topic of this threat or even this forum as a whole. And as an aside, do you have any direct experience of the area that was hit by Katrina to base your reaction on? "Feeling that the people of New Orleans are somehow uniquely downtrodden" are YOUR words - YOU explain them. Well, you seem to think that there is something in national policy that is holding back the New Orleans area, yet the Mississippi Gulf Coast is _not_ being held back. So, if that is not a function of _local_ leadership, the logical conclusion is that you believe that there is a national policy that somehow applies to New Orleans but not in Mississippi. "Most of the people there CANNOT help themselves - the System has made sure of that -- and Continues to make sure of that." as you said. What is it about "the System" that is making sure the people of New Orleans "CANNOT" help themselves, yet is not even remotely preventing the people of Mississippi from helping themselves? And, you never answered my question...have you ever actually *been* to the storm-affected area, either before or after Katrina? If not, don't you think the eye-witness account of an actual resident might have some sort of weight? |
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Shoud there be a "freedom to pollute"?
"george conklin" wrote in message link.net... "nash" wrote in message news:ZDwTh.64893$6m4.36854@pd7urf1no... "So defined, I repeat, freedom means concretely freedoms of various kinds, which may be at least roughly specified. Among the most fundamental is political freedom, involving some means of control of rulers by the ruled, some protection of the individual against government by legal rights or civil liberties." , and we all know how well that worked out. Sorry could not resist Y'all need to read Hofstadter's book on the paranoid in American politics. You are good examples. Just because people are paranoid does not mean the government is not out to get them! |
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