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I have some questions for you serious MB racers:
How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? |
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Seth Hammond wrote:
I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Do you block all passes you can? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Greg |
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On Feb 7, 2:25*pm, "Seth Hammond" wrote:
I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? *It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? A few thoughts: If you're in first place racing a World Cup event in Switzerland with 200 yards to go and there's a guy behind you trying to get around, I'd say that you've got pole position and, short of raising your hands from the bars and mauling him, he's got to get around you and shouldn't expect any favors. If it's a battle between 23rd and 24th place at the local loop, I think it's quite silly to give an obviously faster guy a hard time and prevent them from their chance at charging to the front. In that case, "on your left" should suffice. A personal example: I had a tendency to jackrabbit to the front, blow my wad in the first 10 minutes, and spend the next hour shelled, panicked, and slightly insane. A friend would start slow, wait for guys like me to fry themselves, and methodically move through the singletrack pack. It was a calculated risk that didn't always pay off for him, but when it did he deserved to win. If every idiot who cooked themselves like me tried to wedge him off the trail, well, that just doesn't seem right now does it? If you're riding, say, up a technical uphill and don't want to disturb your forward motion or move into a bad line, the guy behind can either wait until you're in the clear or use his superpowers to get around you. When I used to race, I'd find myself riding with the same three or four guys for most of the race, swapping positions every so often. Generally I'd settle in with guys who were roughly as fast (read as: slow) as I was, and do something akin to drafting where you'd sort of let the rider in front of you pull you forward (psychologically). Even though mtb racinging is pretty mano-a-mano, you can work with other people. /s |
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"G.T." wrote in message ... Seth Hammond wrote: I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Do you block all passes you can? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Greg I'm not sure, but I think I'm beginning to get your drift. |
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"Scott Gordo" wrote in message ... On Feb 7, 2:25 pm, "Seth Hammond" wrote: I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? A few thoughts: If you're in first place racing a World Cup event in Switzerland with 200 yards to go and there's a guy behind you trying to get around, I'd say that you've got pole position and, short of raising your hands from the bars and mauling him, he's got to get around you and shouldn't expect any favors. If it's a battle between 23rd and 24th place at the local loop, I think it's quite silly to give an obviously faster guy a hard time and prevent them from their chance at charging to the front. In that case, "on your left" should suffice. A personal example: I had a tendency to jackrabbit to the front, blow my wad in the first 10 minutes, and spend the next hour shelled, panicked, and slightly insane. A friend would start slow, wait for guys like me to fry themselves, and methodically move through the singletrack pack. It was a calculated risk that didn't always pay off for him, but when it did he deserved to win. If every idiot who cooked themselves like me tried to wedge him off the trail, well, that just doesn't seem right now does it? If you're riding, say, up a technical uphill and don't want to disturb your forward motion or move into a bad line, the guy behind can either wait until you're in the clear or use his superpowers to get around you. When I used to race, I'd find myself riding with the same three or four guys for most of the race, swapping positions every so often. Generally I'd settle in with guys who were roughly as fast (read as: slow) as I was, and do something akin to drafting where you'd sort of let the rider in front of you pull you forward (psychologically). Even though mtb racinging is pretty mano-a-mano, you can work with other people. /s ----------------------- My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short Track race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs - which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the days of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and made up. |
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Seth Hammond wrote:
"Scott Gordo" wrote in message ... On Feb 7, 2:25 pm, "Seth Hammond" wrote: I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? A few thoughts: If you're in first place racing a World Cup event in Switzerland with 200 yards to go and there's a guy behind you trying to get around, I'd say that you've got pole position and, short of raising your hands from the bars and mauling him, he's got to get around you and shouldn't expect any favors. If it's a battle between 23rd and 24th place at the local loop, I think it's quite silly to give an obviously faster guy a hard time and prevent them from their chance at charging to the front. In that case, "on your left" should suffice. A personal example: I had a tendency to jackrabbit to the front, blow my wad in the first 10 minutes, and spend the next hour shelled, panicked, and slightly insane. A friend would start slow, wait for guys like me to fry themselves, and methodically move through the singletrack pack. It was a calculated risk that didn't always pay off for him, but when it did he deserved to win. If every idiot who cooked themselves like me tried to wedge him off the trail, well, that just doesn't seem right now does it? If you're riding, say, up a technical uphill and don't want to disturb your forward motion or move into a bad line, the guy behind can either wait until you're in the clear or use his superpowers to get around you. When I used to race, I'd find myself riding with the same three or four guys for most of the race, swapping positions every so often. Generally I'd settle in with guys who were roughly as fast (read as: slow) as I was, and do something akin to drafting where you'd sort of let the rider in front of you pull you forward (psychologically). Even though mtb racinging is pretty mano-a-mano, you can work with other people. /s ----------------------- My son is the racer, or was. He was leading in class points before a recent race. The promoter decided late in the game to add a Short Track race. One mass start was a fustercluck, but my son worked his way through until a backmarker crowded him off the track and out of the race. My son lost it and tackled the guy at the end of the race, but it was broken up by others before a punch was thrown. He was disqualified from the race and the series, as well as every race the promoter runs - which is most of the races on the lower right coast and Florida where he lives. My son has effectively retired from racing. Oh, for the days of AJ Foyt the pit brawler. Dale Earnhart was no slouch either. Oh well, these are the days of political correctness, I guess. He should have kissed and made up. People need to play fair, and they need to leave the race on the course IMO. When it's done it's done. If you have a problem with how someone acted on the course then discuss it with an official afterwards. So too bad about your son. Maybe he can write a nice letter to the promoter saying he'll never do that again and he'll be able to come back next year. Matt (I just kick 'em when they try and pass, especially G.T.) |
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On Feb 7, 1:25*pm, "Seth Hammond" wrote:
I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? *It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? Like they both said, don't block just to block, if the guy behind is obviously faster than you then let him past, but if you're sprinting for the finish and the guy who's be following you for the last lap is trying to get past then get them elbow's out and get defensive. Letting someone past just means you stay to the righthand side of the trail and keep it going in a straight line. Don't suddenly slow and try and get out of the way, in most cases the guy behind already know's how he's going to get past you and he just wants you to carry on as you were. When you let someone past be aware that the rider may be using you to block other fast riders behind him. I've seen riders leave it to the last second to blast past slower riders, just before entering some tight single track. This puts you between him and his chasers with the idea being he can build up a gap before they can get past you. Also see if you can stay with a faster rider after he passes you, even if it's for just a couple of hundred yards. You may learn something from his riding and you'll put a small gap on anybody you're racing against. |
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On Feb 7, 12:07 pm, "G.T." wrote:
Seth Hammond wrote: I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Do you block all passes you can? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. How about in mixed-class racing? It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? I no longer race because of all the obnoxious dickheads who don't let faster riders by. Greg Troot, mon. JD |
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On Thu, 7 Feb 2008 12:07:27 -0800 (PST), Scott Gordo
wrote: On Feb 7, 2:25*pm, "Seth Hammond" wrote: I have some questions for you serious MB racers: How do you feel about allowing faster riders by you when the track is narrow? Do you block all passes you can? How about in mixed-class racing? *It's understandable to race your peers, but everyone on the course? A few thoughts: If you're in first place racing a World Cup event in Switzerland with 200 yards to go and there's a guy behind you trying to get around, I'd say that you've got pole position and, short of raising your hands from the bars and mauling him, he's got to get around you and shouldn't expect any favors. If it's a battle between 23rd and 24th place at the local loop, I think it's quite silly to give an obviously faster guy a hard time and prevent them from their chance at charging to the front. In that case, "on your left" should suffice. A personal example: I had a tendency to jackrabbit to the front, blow my wad in the first 10 minutes, and spend the next hour shelled, panicked, and slightly insane. A friend would start slow, wait for guys like me to fry themselves, and methodically move through the singletrack pack. It was a calculated risk that didn't always pay off for him, but when it did he deserved to win. If every idiot who cooked themselves like me tried to wedge him off the trail, well, that just doesn't seem right now does it? If you're riding, say, up a technical uphill and don't want to disturb your forward motion or move into a bad line, the guy behind can either wait until you're in the clear or use his superpowers to get around you. When I used to race, I'd find myself riding with the same three or four guys for most of the race, swapping positions every so often. Generally I'd settle in with guys who were roughly as fast (read as: slow) as I was, and do something akin to drafting where you'd sort of let the rider in front of you pull you forward (psychologically). Even though mtb racinging is pretty mano-a-mano, you can work with other people. /s Racing -- of ANY type -- is stupid. -- I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of! http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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Mike Vandeman
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