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On Jul 23, 11:23 am, RonSonic wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:10:07 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: On 07/22/2007 09:29 AM, in article , "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote: wrote: I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich. Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007 is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted, he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year, or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit for a proper TT position. I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion if any by the final TT. He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador. Michael Arse-ficken should be thrown out of the Tour for his multiple missed tests over the past couple of years. **** that. It's stupid that he has to report his ****ing whereabouts like a damn pervert on parole. Let Contador and Evans fight it out. Where was Contador every single week of the last 2 years? Are HIS papers in order. Ron- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And how about the Columbians?? It's a Eurocentric system that works well for those close by. I wonder how many out of competition tests they've sent people to Kazakhstan to conduct? I saw an article this weekend about companies injecting GPS tracking and security chips into their employees, can the UCI be far behind? It's not just a nutcase conspiracy thing anymore, unfortunately. Bill C |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 08:46:38 -0700, Bill C wrote:
On Jul 23, 11:23 am, RonSonic wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:10:07 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: On 07/22/2007 09:29 AM, in article , "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote: wrote: I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich. Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007 is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted, he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year, or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit for a proper TT position. I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion if any by the final TT. He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador. Michael Arse-ficken should be thrown out of the Tour for his multiple missed tests over the past couple of years. **** that. It's stupid that he has to report his ****ing whereabouts like a damn pervert on parole. Let Contador and Evans fight it out. Where was Contador every single week of the last 2 years? Are HIS papers in order. Ron- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And how about the Columbians?? It's a Eurocentric system that works well for those close by. I wonder how many out of competition tests they've sent people to Kazakhstan to conduct? I saw an article this weekend about companies injecting GPS tracking and security chips into their employees, can the UCI be far behind? It's not just a nutcase conspiracy thing anymore, unfortunately. Bill C I really do understand that out of competition testing is the current thing and part of the job. But somehow I am so much more sympathetic to Chicken sending a postcard than I am with the bloodsuckers and peripheral personnel who only get to annoy and drain blood from such as him. I guess that's where the complaints about men in black come from. Who wants to go to all those weird, wild places to get samples for testing. I've also been wondering about the Hemopure allegations that've just come up. Who would use something that a seventh grader could detect. Ron |
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"Bill C" wrote in message s.com... And how about the Columbians?? It's a Eurocentric system that works well for those close by. I wonder how many out of competition tests they've sent people to Kazakhstan to conduct? I saw an article this weekend about companies injecting GPS tracking and security chips into their employees, can the UCI be far behind? It's not just a nutcase conspiracy thing anymore, unfortunately. Bill C Somebody needs to convince Mark Cuban to sponsor a cycling team. |
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RonSonic wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:10:07 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: On 07/22/2007 09:29 AM, in article , "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote: wrote: I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich. Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007 is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted, he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year, or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit for a proper TT position. I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion if any by the final TT. He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador. Michael Arse-ficken should be thrown out of the Tour for his multiple missed tests over the past couple of years. **** that. It's stupid that he has to report his ****ing whereabouts like a damn pervert on parole. Let Contador and Evans fight it out. Where was Contador every single week of the last 2 years? Are HIS papers in order. Well, the past two years he was with Manolo Saiz and Dr. Fuentes witch meant that he was kicked out of the TDF last year. We haven't seen the complete Puerto files yet but rumors are that he is in there along with Valverde. To me it's a lot more incriminating than failing posting your where-abouts in time or a loose 5 year old questionable rumor. Also, i very much doubt that the Spanish cycling federation will ban a rider from WC and Olympics because of two warnings due to falty where-abouts. The UCI rules clearly states that there only can be a case after 3 warnings. Rasmussen has two, and the first one is only a minor warning which is he will be clear of by september. My guess is there is a lot of riders with one or two warnings in the present peloton. -- Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) http://blog.reippuert.dk Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007. |
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Bill C wrote:
On Jul 23, 11:23 am, RonSonic wrote: On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:10:07 -0600, "Steven L. Sheffield" wrote: On 07/22/2007 09:29 AM, in article , "Morten Reippuert Knudsen" wrote: wrote: I agree, but i've never seen anyone in but meself in rbr expressing that. Actally the St Etinnene TT wasn't all that bad, he spent more than 4 miunttes off the bike durring that TT. Assuming he would have stayed on the bike he wouldn't have lost more than 3 minuttes to Armstong and 2.30 to Ulrich. Part of being good at TTs is being prepared, and mentally or physically, he wasn't prepared. The difference in 2007 is that on the evidence of the picture links Shayana posted, he's actually spent some time riding his TT bike this year, or if not that, at least he spent some time getting a fit for a proper TT position. I don't think he is going to put as much time into everyone else in the remaining mountain stages as many in RBR seem to think; so I don't think he will have much of a cushion if any by the final TT. He bolstered his cushion with antother 2:04 to Evans and Kloeden today. Now he only has to hang on to Contador. Michael Arse-ficken should be thrown out of the Tour for his multiple missed tests over the past couple of years. **** that. It's stupid that he has to report his ****ing whereabouts like a damn pervert on parole. Let Contador and Evans fight it out. Where was Contador every single week of the last 2 years? Are HIS papers in order. Ron- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And how about the Columbians?? It's a Eurocentric system that works well for those close by. I wonder how many out of competition tests they've sent people to Kazakhstan to conduct? Actually Vinokurov should be tested by the Kazakh, French and Monaco's cycling federations as well as by UCI's because he lives i France and has a licence from Monaco. I'd guess that he is only being tested by the UCI and partialy by the French association. Secondly i guess that Vinukorov has or should have had a cupple of warnings since he is one of the "Men in black", Rasmussen is one of them as well. Do you think the French and Kazakh federations has given him any warnings? I don't. Regarding the Spanish riders and the Spanish cyclingfederations out-of-competition tests i very much doubt that they are conduction their own test. Rasmussen prime problem is that the Danish (like the German) Cycling Federation are conduction their own tests as an addition to the test made by UCI. It means that he got warnings for his where-abouts and from missing out-of-competition test from UCI and the Danish Cycling Federation at the same time. His second problem is that the Danish Cycling Federation (like the German) has an ethical charter regarding representation on the national team: Riders has to take part i additional out-of-competition test besides those from the UCI, additional DCU can (as they did in this case) ban rider from the national team even though the rider isn't under suscpicion or hasn't voilated any UCI rules. I'd bet you that neither the Duch, Belgian, French, Spanish, Italian, Ukranian, Russian, Sweedish or American federation has similar strict rules. Dunno about the British, but the Norwegian and the German rules are as strict as the rules under DCU. -- Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) http://blog.reippuert.dk Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007. |
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On Jul 23, 1:26 pm, "Carl Sundquist" wrote:
"Bill C" wrote in message s.com... And how about the Columbians?? It's a Eurocentric system that works well for those close by. I wonder how many out of competition tests they've sent people to Kazakhstan to conduct? I saw an article this weekend about companies injecting GPS tracking and security chips into their employees, can the UCI be far behind? It's not just a nutcase conspiracy thing anymore, unfortunately. Bill C Somebody needs to convince Mark Cuban to sponsor a cycling team. That would be some SERIOUS theater! I can't even imagine what he'd have to say about the folks running cycling, especially when he wasn't being handed a record fine for every comment. Bill C PS I'm praying they let him buy the Cubs. That'll be fun too. |
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Forget St. Etienne
Morten Reippuert Knudsen wrote:
Actually Vinokurov should be tested by the Kazakh, French and Monaco's cycling federations as well as by UCI's because he lives i France and has a licence from Monaco. Perhaps they'll have to clone him so he can be in all 3 places at the same time to be tested. Imagine a whole team of Vino clones. |
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:32:07 +0200, Donald Munro
wrote: Morten Reippuert Knudsen wrote: Actually Vinokurov should be tested by the Kazakh, French and Monaco's cycling federations as well as by UCI's because he lives i France and has a licence from Monaco. Perhaps they'll have to clone him so he can be in all 3 places at the same time to be tested. Imagine a whole team of Vino clones. They'd tear up the peloton if they'd ever work together. One of 'em would surely win each stage, just that no one of them would win enough for the GC. Ron |
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Forget St. Etienne
Morten Reippuert Knudsen schreef:
His second problem is that the Danish Cycling Federation (like the German) has an ethical charter regarding representation on the national team: Riders has to take part i additional out-of-competition test besides those from the UCI, additional DCU can (as they did in this case) ban rider from the national team even though the rider isn't under suscpicion or hasn't voilated any UCI rules. I'd bet you that neither the Duch, Belgian, French, Spanish, Italian, Ukranian, Russian, Sweedish or American federation has similar strict All Dutch "international sporters" (a term defined in the antidoping rules) must make their training locations and daily training schedule known to the antidoping authority (DADA..?), every month at least 2 weeks in advance. Out of competition controls can take place any time, unannounced. (Although there was a minor scandal earlier this year when a news show discovered that all the controls they filmed, 3 or 4, *were* announced.) If the official does not meet you (at the training venue, your home or 1 or 2 other addresses you wrote down) he will try another time. If that does not succeed either, he will phone you. There has to be a control within 2h of that call. If not, the sports association will be notified and you will get suspended for 3 months to a year (depending on which assoc). So, no warnings. -- E. Dronkert |
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