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3 flat tires in a row??
"Bill Sornson" wrote in message ... Harry Brogan wrote: On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:21:06 -0700 (PDT), c wrote: i just bought a new bike - a trek 7200 (hybrid) - and i've been riding it through NYC got a flat one day, paid $16 to get it fixed (new tube) rode around that day, got another flat, paid $16 to get it fixed (there was a spike sticking out of it ... so ... bad luck?) that was 1 week ago ... rode around every day since, got another flat tire always the back tire what gives? coincidence? bike shop doing a bad job? maybe missing the fact that a spoke is protruding and stabbing my tube or something? am i a fat, fat man? does jumping a curb kill a tube? i never had this happen on my old 7200's (i rode 2 before this one, i love the 7200) are there more hazards on the roads in april? broken bottles leftover from st patty's or something? the bike shop is metro bicycles on 14th st and 1st ave - generally good guys if this is just coincidence it's really enough to drive me nuts 16 bucks?!?!?!?! Are you NUTZ?!?!?!?! Around here we have these nasty little thorns we call "goatheads" They are three-prong devils that sometimes stand like a tripod ready to pop a tube. Everyone who rides for ANY length of time knows that they are there. And....anyone with any common sense KNOWS how to fix a flat. You mentioned that you "didn't have the 20 minutes" to fix it yourself. How long did it take to walk it to the bike shop, fill out the papers for a repair job, and then come back to get it? Or did you wait. In either case it might have been quicker to fix it yourself and it CERTAINLY would have been cheaper!!!! I think we've been trolled. Must be so because no person can be that stupid and manage to survive a bike ride. |
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"c" wrote: i pay because i have the $20 more easily than i have the 20-ish minutes fixing a flat - i've fixed flats before, it's not rocket science the point was - ever get 3 flats in a row? what's with that? is that normal? think the shop is screwing up and missing something that could be causing the flats (always the back tire) - like a spoke sticking through the wheel or something? doesn't it seem a little odd? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I have plenty of money too, so I don't fix flats. I just have my support crew hand me another bike. Of course it's not rocket science. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to figure out what caused the flats, which you probably would have done by now if you fixed them yourself. All of this is offered in the spirit of good-natured joshing around. :-) |
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 18:44:44 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote, in part: / think the shop is screwing up and missing something that could be causing the flats (always the back tire) - like a spoke sticking through the wheel or something? Well, if you think they are screwing up, remove them from the equation and screw up yourself. Or, perhaps you'll be more motivated than they are to make sure YOU don't flat out. doesn't it seem a little odd? Yes, that you're willing to pay $20 for flat after flat after flat? After three flats in three months at the end of about a year, I buy new tires. Three flats in one ride occurred once riding tubular tires. I had two spares. Now I ride clinchers and know how to stop a puncture or snake-bite leak without a patch after I've used my two spare tubes. The inability to fix a flat at the road side defies logic. Not learning the source of the leak defines stupidity. -- zk |
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- I like throrn resistant tubes, for two reasons: a. They are thicker and, er Resist Thorns. also b. They are thicker and can accept a higher pressure than the thinner kind. - I rode across a dirt divider and picked up ten thorns in the back tire alone. (Conventional tube, used, worn, non-knobby tire). I ended up catching the train until I could replace it with a thicker tube. The front wheel is a thicker tube as well as a used but much better built tire. No flat even though I pulled a suitable amount or thorns out of it. Until two days latter I found the front tire to be down to 20lbs. Seems some broken off thorn points had migrated through the tougher front tire and got at the thicker tube and caused a slow leak. While I had been at the bike shop buying a thicker back tube I had picked up a small bottle of that green Slime stuff (I had seen it for many years but didn't ever use it myself.) I put half of the 4oz in the front tire after puling the tire off, running my fingers around the inside and pulling the three thorn points I could find out with some needle nose pliers. Man, this is getting long... Anywho, half the recommended dose, along with a tough tire and a thick tube and some new air and I'm back on the road. (I'm likely going to add the second half to the rear tube as a preventative measure.) The most I ever had was two in one day an that was because of my own faulty patching the 1st time (hard to patch over a seam.) TBerk |
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a good amount of you (about 1/3) are cynical sons of bitches ... too much time on your hands? wtf... the rest, thanks - sincerely - thank you; i posted here asking if it was normal, and you told me your experiences and i don't feel like the bike shop was being lazy in fixing my bike - i really did just have a streak of bad luck, which in the nature of things, is perfectly normal i appreciate your attention and care i do happen to live in a different world, apparently - there are thousand bike shops everywhere, three of which are on the route between work, school, and home, and they know me by name and know my bikes and when i walk in they take care of me instantly and i'm back on the road in about 10 minutes so yes, the $20 beats the living **** out of having to wash the grease off my hands for 10 minutes, etc -- why is the minority of this group so obtusely judgemental and doubtful? did you fail reading comprehension? what is so impossible about anything i've asked? those who told me it's stupid to not know the source of the flat are right on ... i don't mind being insulted because you're being helpful on balance the recommendation about kevlar tires is pretty great, i'll be looking into that next time i have a free hour new wheels - bike's new, so not likely, but i will get them trued i do carry a spare tube but it's for emergencies, such as when i'm in a neighborhood i don't know or if i take a 5+ hr ride ... patch kit too, multitool, universal-head double-action pump (no gauge on it though, oh well), etc side topic -- i've been borrowing a roadbike and it's a different ballgame entirely, but i'm really digging it more and more ... sooo efficient, but less "fun" than my hybrid ... i may become a "real" bicyclist after all thanks, c |
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c wrote:
the recommendation about kevlar tires is pretty great, i'll be looking into that next time i have a free hour new wheels - bike's new, so not likely, but i will get them trued i do carry a spare tube but it's for emergencies, such as when i'm in a neighborhood i don't know or if i take a 5+ hr ride ... patch kit too, multitool, universal-head double-action pump (no gauge on it though, oh well), etc side topic -- i've been borrowing a roadbike and it's a different ballgame entirely, but i'm really digging it more and more ... sooo efficient, but less "fun" than my hybrid ... i may become a "real" bicyclist after all I was one of the ones to recommend kevlar. They are a *lot* harder for me to mount, and I did it on two bikes, but I want to say I have 1,100 miles on my main bike and 600 on my second bike since the last rainy season and have had one flat. (Knocks on wood.) It was a presta tube failure where the stem broke off of the tube from the daily flexing airing it up. Both my bikes are road bikes and I mostly ride in a big city and occasionally ride in a very rural area a couple hundred miles away when visiting relatives. I plan to stick with kevlar. |
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c wrote:
the recommendation about kevlar tires is pretty great, i'll be looking into that next time i have a free hour new wheels - bike's new, so not likely, but i will get them trued i do carry a spare tube but it's for emergencies, such as when i'm in a neighborhood i don't know or if i take a 5+ hr ride ... patch kit too, multitool, universal-head double-action pump (no gauge on it though, oh well), etc side topic -- i've been borrowing a roadbike and it's a different ballgame entirely, but i'm really digging it more and more ... sooo efficient, but less "fun" than my hybrid ... i may become a "real" bicyclist after all I was one of the ones to recommend kevlar. They are a *lot* harder for me to mount, and I did it on two bikes, but I want to say I have 1,100 miles on my main bike and 600 on my second bike since the last rainy season and have had one flat. (Knocks on wood.) It was a presta tube failure where the stem broke off of the tube from the daily flexing airing it up. Both my bikes are road bikes and I mostly ride in a big city and occasionally ride in a very rural area a couple hundred miles away when visiting relatives. I plan to stick with kevlar. |
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"TBerk" (clip) The most I ever had was two in one day (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think two friends of mine may have set the world's record in that regard. One of the rode on the shoulder and went through a patch of puncture vines, betting possibly 50 or more leaks in each tire, all at once. The other fellow said, "where did you do that?" and went over to check it out. A minute later he had 50 or 60 thorns in each of his tires. The job fell to me to ride back and get the car. It kind of ruined our day. |
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TBerk wrote:
While I had been at the bike shop buying a thicker back tube I had picked up a small bottle of that green Slime stuff ... Slimed tube, rode a good 5 to 7 miles home following a puncture (you can hear the air start to escape before the Slime seals). Pulled the tube once home & discovered a actual 1/4 inch cut in the tube. Good stuff ) ... Bill Davis |
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3 flat tires in a row??
Change the rim tape (of course it kinda depends on where the tubes are
opening up - which you will only figure out by dismantling them yourself) Take the tire off, run your fingers around on the inside of it and see if something bites you. If you don't draw blood do the same with the rim. Maybe it's worth $50 bucks not to get a little tiny piece of wire poked into the tip of your finger. You sound like you might be the guy they make those air impregnated foam tires for, google greentyre. I don't mean this to sound like a dis... just an idea about practicality of your circumstance. These things sacrifice a little bit of performance for a lot of reduced maintenance. If you're riding knobby tires on pavement and hard packed surfaces performance probably isn't one of your primary concerns anyway. |
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