Eliminate time trial and aero bikes from racing.

On Jun 13, 7:21*pm, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."
wrote:


I watched a triathlon on Universal Sports today and since they now
allow drafting, all the Tri-Freds were riding with road bike bars.

dumbass,

they are still behind in the sense that the courses are designed as if
they are for running rather than bike racing.

if the bike leg was the last one the winner would break though a tape
like it was a marathon.

Anton Berlin wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:25 pm, NoDannyNo wrote:
On Jun 13, 4:25 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.
1. Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs
Of course the industry makes a lot of money from aero equipment so
it's an uphill battle but for me there's something pure and true about
a road bike.
Get rid of derailleurs, pneumatic tires, and "lycra-spandex" as well
and you'll really have something there.

This isn't an anti-tech rant, it's more of a democratic one. They've
eliminated aero bikes from the hour (at least the one that counts)
many aero features from mass starts, radios, and minimum weight
limits.

The thought isn't out of line.

Dumbass,

The only reason people attempt the "Eddy Merckx" hour record rather than
the Boardman/Superman record is because they think the Merckx style
record is easier to break. If they thought they could break the Boardman
record by riding with discs, aero helmets, and aero bars, then they
would do it. The UCI will still accept and recognize it, but still call
it "best hour performance" instead of the hour record. But if you go
faster than 56.375 kilometers in one hour, who cares what they want to
call it. Everyone will know you are the faster mofo ever for an hour.

Boardman is not like Dave Lettieri who is still the reigning national
Junior 17-18 Omnium champion (because the event hasn't been held since
then).

Anton Berlin wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:21 pm, "Kurgan. presented by Gringioni."
wrote:
On Jun 13, 1:25 pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.
1. Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs
Of course the industry makes a lot of money from aero equipment so
it's an uphill battle but for me there's something pure and true about
a road bike.
Dumbass -

I watched a triathlon on Universal Sports today and since they now
allow drafting, all the Tri-Freds were riding with road bike bars.

I was switching between that race and the Tour de Suisse on Versus and
the difference in bike handling skills is startling.

Triathlon would be more interesting if they switched the order to:
swim, run, bike.

thanks,

Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.


Actually, it looks like they are already making this a reality.
Page 42

http://www.usacycling.org/forms/USAC_rulebook-1.pdf

(h) Time trial events may restrict the competitors to mass-start
bicycles in one or more classes, provided that the restriction is
stated in the race announcement and technical guide. This includes
time trials in stage races.



Dumbass,

This is nothing new. Event promoters have always had the right to put
contingencies on races or equipment as long as they announce it in the
race permit, flyer, and bible.

On Jun 13, 9:36*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
On Jun 13, 6:25*pm, NoDannyNo wrote:

On Jun 13, 4:25*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

*I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.

1. *Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. *Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. *Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs

Of course the industry makes a lot of money from aero equipment so
it's an uphill battle but for me there's something pure and true about
a road bike.

Get rid of derailleurs, pneumatic tires, and "lycra-spandex" as well
and you'll really have something there.

This isn't an anti-tech rant, it's more of a democratic one. *They've
eliminated aero bikes from the hour (at least the one that counts)
many aero features from mass starts, radios, and minimum weight
limits.

The thought isn't out of line.

Of course it will never happen but I'd be interested in seeing a
"regular bikes only" TT stage in the Grand Tours. Back in the day,
Merckx, Gimondi, Ritter, etc. were all doing ~50 kph TTs on standard
lugged steel road bikes, No "skinsuits" or Alien-monster helmets to
be found.

On Jun 13, 9:48*pm, Amit Ghosh wrote:
On Jun 13, 7:25*pm, NoDannyNo wrote:

On Jun 13, 4:25*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:

*I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.

1. *Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. *Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. *Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs

Of course the industry makes a lot of money from aero equipment so
it's an uphill battle but for me there's something pure and true about
a road bike.

Get rid of derailleurs, pneumatic tires, and "lycra-spandex" as well
and you'll really have something there.

and plus fours and pipe smoking.

Certain forms of pipe smoking as modern as an 11-tooth sprocket.

In article ,
"B. Lafferty" wrote:

(the real kind that gets stiff between rides).

Sean Kelly would not approve.

On Sun, 13 Jun 2010 20:33:43 -0700, "H. Fred Kveck"
wrote:

In article ,
"B. Lafferty" wrote:

(the real kind that gets stiff between rides).

Sean Kelly would not approve.

What passes for subtle on rbr.

Curtis L. Russell
Odenton, MD (USA)
Just someone on two wheels...

On Jun 13, 4:25*pm, Anton Berlin wrote:
*I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.

1. *Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. *Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. *Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs

TT participation would likely go down were it not for the opportunity
to spend $ and ride on the latest fast gear.

Honestly, being able to ride that much faster on an aero rig is part
of the attraction. otherwise it is only suffering. (it's suffering
in any case, but at least you're going a lot faster)

As I recall Nature Valley is making the TT be "Merckx-style" ... and
people were not happy about it.

On 6/13/2010 11:33 PM, H. Fred Kveck wrote:
In articleBaidnTPp_9iq4YjRnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@giganews. com,
"B. wrote:

(the real kind that gets stiff between rides).

Sean Kelly would not approve.
Indeed.

On 6/13/2010 3:25 PM, Anton Berlin wrote:
I think there are several reasons why this would be a good idea.

1. Allows better comparisons across the spectrum of cyclists
2. Lowers the entry barrier for equal participation
3. Allows rider to stage race without excessive transport costs

Of course the industry makes a lot of money from aero equipment so
it's an uphill battle but for me there's something pure and true about
a road bike.



Focksticks,

A TT on an unpaved surface would accomplish this. A friend that is
running a TT had their course altered by road construction. I tried
to make the case for this, but was unsuccessful.

Fred Flintstein