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Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?



 
 
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Old June 11th 08, 06:26 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_3_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Not only are disabled cyclists not generally recognised as such and
are banned from many areas where wheelchair users are allowed but they
are also excluded from many of the benefits enjoyed by disabled
motorists, such as the following.

"If you have difficulty getting around, having your own car can make
all the difference to your independence. Several organisations offer
information and advice about buying and driving a car specially
adapted for a disabled person. These include the Mobility Information
Service, the Mobility Advice and Vehicle Information Service (MAVIS)
and the Queen Elizabethís Foundation Mobility Centre.

Motability is a charity that helps people to use the higher rate
mobility component of their Disability Living Allowance (DLA) or their
War Pensionerís Mobility Supplement to buy powered wheelchairs,
personal vehicles and cars through a hire purchase scheme.

For cars, Motability covers:

* a new car every three years
* free tyres
* insurance
* road tax
* servicing, maintenance and repairs
* breakdown cover
* window or windscreen replacement.

However, your DLA or Mobility Supplement won't necessarily cover all
the costs: you may also have to pay a deposit, the cost of necessary
adaptations, running costs and so on. Do check exactly what you will
need to pay before committing yourself.

Exemption from VAT and road tax

Disabled people do not have to pay VAT on equipment for daily living,
wheelchairs, personal vehicles or on cars specially adapted to carry a
disabled person in a wheelchair. See VAT Notice 701/7, VAT reliefs for
disabled people for more information. You can get a copy from the HM
Revenue and Customs helpline on 0845 010 9000 (you will need to give
your postcode when you call).

People who receive the higher rate mobility component of Disability
Living Allowance donít usually have to pay Vehicle Excise Duty (road
tax) on their car."

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Old June 11th 08, 08:25 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Nigel Cliffe
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Doug wrote:
Not only are disabled cyclists not generally recognised as such and
are banned from many areas where wheelchair users are allowed but they
are also excluded from many of the benefits enjoyed by disabled
motorists, such as the following.......


[snip]

Exemption from VAT and road tax

Disabled people do not have to pay VAT on equipment for daily living,
wheelchairs, personal vehicles or on cars specially adapted to carry a
disabled person in a wheelchair. See VAT Notice 701/7, ....


Do your research first ?

Disabled cyclists can get VAT free cycles under the above rules.
I've seen one being sold by Kevin at D-Tek. Price of a trike with a few
modifications to a disabled chap was VAT free, subject to completing various
forms (much like the forms for cars, wheelchairs, etc).




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Old June 11th 08, 09:42 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Doug[_3_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabledmotorists?

On 11 Jun, 08:25, "Nigel Cliffe" wrote:
Doug wrote:
Not only are disabled cyclists not generally recognised as such and
are banned from many areas where wheelchair users are allowed but they
are also excluded from many of the benefits enjoyed by disabled
motorists, such as the following.......


[snip]

Exemption from VAT and road tax


Disabled people do not have to pay VAT on equipment for daily living,
wheelchairs, personal vehicles or on cars specially adapted to carry a
disabled person in a wheelchair. See VAT Notice 701/7, ....


Do your research first ?

Disabled cyclists can get VAT free cycles under the above rules.
I've seen one being sold by Kevin at D-Tek. Price of a trike with a few
modifications to a disabled chap was VAT free, subject to completing various
forms (much like the forms for cars, wheelchairs, etc).

What about the other benefits mentioned?

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Old June 11th 08, 10:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mark T[_2_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Doug writtificated

What about the other benefits mentioned?


I may not be right about this, and you should probably check this out for
yourself, but I think disabled cyclists don't have to pay vehicle excise
duty on their bicycles either.
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Old June 11th 08, 11:15 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
bornfree
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabledmotorists?

On 11 Jun, 08:25, "Nigel Cliffe" wrote:

Disabled cyclists can get VAT free cycles under the above rules.


How can I get this?

I am about to buy a new bike. I am not "certified" disabled, but could
get a doctors letter.
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Old June 11th 08, 11:40 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Rob Morley
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabledmotorists?

On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:15:21 -0700 (PDT)
bornfree wrote:

On 11 Jun, 08:25, "Nigel Cliffe" wrote:

Disabled cyclists can get VAT free cycles under the above rules.


How can I get this?

I am about to buy a new bike. I am not "certified" disabled, but could
get a doctors letter.


ITYF you need to be getting DLA/SDA to qualify, and be buying something
built/modified to cope with your particular disability.


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Old June 11th 08, 04:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_4_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Doug wrote:

Not only are disabled cyclists not generally recognised as such and
are banned from many areas where wheelchair users are allowed but they
are also excluded from many of the benefits enjoyed by disabled
motorists, such as the following.


[snip]

No, you're wrong.

The fact that a particular person owned a bicycle would not prevent them
(if disabled) from being eligible for a car under the Motability scheme
(or whatever it's now called).

So they'd be treated exactly the same as anyone else.
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Old June 11th 08, 05:01 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_4_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Nigel Cliffe wrote:
Doug wrote:
Not only are disabled cyclists not generally recognised as such and
are banned from many areas where wheelchair users are allowed but they
are also excluded from many of the benefits enjoyed by disabled
motorists, such as the following.......


[snip]

Exemption from VAT and road tax

Disabled people do not have to pay VAT on equipment for daily living,
wheelchairs, personal vehicles or on cars specially adapted to carry a
disabled person in a wheelchair. See VAT Notice 701/7, ....


Do your research first ?

Disabled cyclists can get VAT free cycles under the above rules.
I've seen one being sold by Kevin at D-Tek. Price of a trike with a few
modifications to a disabled chap was VAT free, subject to completing various
forms (much like the forms for cars, wheelchairs, etc).


But why would a *disabled* person want a VAT-free *bicycle* when they
could get a car for almost nothing?
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Old June 11th 08, 05:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Ekul Namsob
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

JNugent wrote:

But why would a *disabled* person want a VAT-free *bicycle* when they
could get a car for almost nothing?


The last time I checked, the running costs of a bicycle were
significantly less than the running costs of a car.

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Old June 11th 08, 05:26 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_4_]
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Default Why aren't disabled cyclists treated the same as disabled motorists?

Ekul Namsob wrote:

JNugent wrote:


But why would a *disabled* person want a VAT-free *bicycle* when they
could get a car for almost nothing?


The last time I checked, the running costs of a bicycle were
significantly less than the running costs of a car.


Yes, but there's the question of the disabled person being fit enough to
ride a bicycle, which is more physically demanding than sitting at the
wheel of a car. I would expect that the Motability scheme would require
a significant level of disability before free cars were handed out, and
there is obvious scope for tension between the competing requirements
for being classified as "disabled" and for being fit to ride a bike.

Of course, some disabilities may not have much outward sign.
 




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