Should be part of our driving license

On 01/05/2018 13:43, JNugent wrote:
On 01/05/2018 12:45, TMS320 wrote:
On 01/05/18 07:50, MrCheerful wrote:

IIRC the first highway code also says that cyclists must not filter
in between other vehicles or undertake them.

It does not say what apparently think it says. The word "filter" is
used in the motor vehicle section so it is not a matter of change of
style or language.

The specific wording is "Do not attempt to gain a forward position in
a traffic block by riding along the narrow spaces between stationary
vehicles."

This does not specify the space between vehicle and kerb and it is
under a section labeled "Duties towards Other Road Users" not "Rule of
the Road".

But it still says it?

And as you know, lots of cyclists *do* cycle between lines of stationary
or slow-moving vehicles.

I used the word 'filter' since it is the modern idiom.

On 01/05/18 14:04, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 12:45:11 PM UTC+1, TMS320 wrote:

The specific wording is "Do not attempt to gain a forward position in a
traffic block by riding along the narrow spaces between stationary
vehicles."

Is this cyclist OK in that regard then?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcHQJrNXkAEk6Hj.jpg

Well... it looks like the rule "Keep as near to the left as practicable"
might be a problem here.

On 01/05/18 15:16, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/05/2018 13:43, JNugent wrote:
On 01/05/2018 12:45, TMS320 wrote:
On 01/05/18 07:50, MrCheerful wrote:

IIRC the first highway code also says that cyclists must not filter
in between other vehicles or undertake them.

It does not say what apparently think it says. The word "filter" is
used in the motor vehicle section so it is not a matter of change of
style or language.

The specific wording is "Do not attempt to gain a forward position in
a traffic block by riding along the narrow spaces between stationary
vehicles."

This does not specify the space between vehicle and kerb and it is
under a section labeled "Duties towards Other Road Users" not "Rule
of the Road".

But it still says it?

It says what I put in quotes.

And as you know, lots of cyclists *do* cycle between lines of
stationary or slow-moving vehicles.

It doesn't say anything about slow moving either. In this picture
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DcHQJrNXkAEk6Hj.jpg I don't see "lots" doing it.
I used the word 'filter' since it is the modern idiom.

It was current then.

On 01/05/18 22:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 10:38:40 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

vehicle (n.)
also
"any means of conveying or transmitting," from French véhicule (16c.),
from Latin vehiculum "means of transport, vehicle, carriage,
conveyance," from vehere "to bear, carry, convey,

Is a horse a vehicle though?

From the etymology and derivation of the word "vehicle", I suppose, yes,
if the horse is used to carry people or goods or things not normally
part of the horse.

On 02/05/2018 10:46, Peter Keller wrote:

On 01/05/18 22:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 10:38:40 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

vehicle (n.)
also
"any means of conveying or transmitting," from French véhicule (16c.),
from Latin vehiculum "means of transport, vehicle, carriage,
conveyance," from vehere "to bear, carry, convey,

Is a horse a vehicle though?

From the etymology and derivation of the word "vehicle", I suppose, yes,
if the horse is used to carry people or goods or things not normally
part of the horse.

I would agree, insofar as the word has long acquired a secondary meaning
as a conveyance of any sort or an enabling device or contrivance (eg,
space vehicle, savings vehicle, tax-efficiency vehicle).

But these are abstractions, and the word normally implies wheels.

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 10:56:38 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
On 01/05/18 22:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 10:38:40 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

vehicle (n.)
also
"any means of conveying or transmitting," from French véhicule (16c.),
from Latin vehiculum "means of transport, vehicle, carriage,
conveyance," from vehere "to bear, carry, convey,

Is a horse a vehicle though?

From the etymology and derivation of the word "vehicle", I suppose, yes,
if the horse is used to carry people or goods or things not normally
part of the horse.

I agree.
I propose that all rag and bone men pay "road tax" for the surfaces they are wrecking and pass a droving test.

Also, tax hay and oats.

On 02/05/2018 15:00, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 10:56:38 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:
On 01/05/18 22:32, wrote:
On Tuesday, May 1, 2018 at 10:38:40 AM UTC+1, Peter Keller wrote:

vehicle (n.)
also
"any means of conveying or transmitting," from French véhicule (16c.),
from Latin vehiculum "means of transport, vehicle, carriage,
conveyance," from vehere "to bear, carry, convey,

Is a horse a vehicle though?

From the etymology and derivation of the word "vehicle", I suppose, yes,
if the horse is used to carry people or goods or things not normally
part of the horse.

I agree.
I propose that all rag and bone men pay "road tax" for the surfaces they are wrecking and pass a droving test.

Also, tax hay and oats.

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