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July 28th 03, 04:25 AM
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Congrtas to LA for a well deserved win. The dedication, the mental
strength and the superiority in his sport is really amazing. Reminds me of Michael when he had total control of Basketball. But who's the greater athlete? MJ- the ultimate competitor, refuses to lose, always finds a way to win, never failed in any level. LA- overcame cancer, argueably in a tougher sport, the best cycler ever. Tough one, isn't it? Personally, I think they are tied, but if LA comes back next year and wins his 6th TdF, he'll go down is the greatest athlete of all times. --Steve 
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July 28th 03, 04:43 AM
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July 28th 03, 05:59 AM
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Lance Armstrong trains a lot more than Michael Jordan. 5-7 hours on the
bike plus weight lifting on some days. Lance Armstrong relies on natural ability as well as being one of the most dedicated athletes out there, and Michael Jordan relies on his natural skills more than dedication. I don't think he plays 5-7 hours of basketball everyday. "Steve" wrote in message om... Congrtas to LA for a well deserved win. The dedication, the mental strength and the superiority in his sport is really amazing. Reminds me of Michael when he had total control of Basketball. But who's the greater athlete? MJ- the ultimate competitor, refuses to lose, always finds a way to win, never failed in any level. LA- overcame cancer, argueably in a tougher sport, the best cycler ever. Tough one, isn't it? Personally, I think they are tied, but if LA comes back next year and wins his 6th TdF, he'll go down is the greatest athlete of all times. --Steve
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July 28th 03, 08:11 AM
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"Jiyang Chen" wrote in message ... Lance Armstrong trains a lot more than Michael Jordan. 5-7 hours on the bike plus weight lifting on some days. Lance Armstrong relies on natural ability as well as being one of the most dedicated athletes out there, and Michael Jordan relies on his natural skills more than dedication. I don't think he plays 5-7 hours of basketball everyday. Jordan used to host a Sunrise fitness session (usually Pippen and one other player) at the court at his home, then they'd eat breakfast, then go to the United Center, then lift weights, then do the official team practice, then lift weights after the official team practice. That's why they won 72 games. Athletes don't reach those levels by sitting on their ass.
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July 28th 03, 10:27 AM
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I disagree about training ethics.
Michael was known for his amazing work ethic, sweaty summer five on fives, weightlifting etc. I don't believe LA has an edge in this category. --Steve
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July 28th 03, 11:54 AM
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"Jiyang Chen" a écrit dans le message de news: ... Lance Armstrong trains a lot more than Michael Jordan. 5-7 hours on the bike plus weight lifting on some days. Lance Armstrong relies on natural ability as well as being one of the most dedicated athletes out there, and Michael Jordan relies on his natural skills more than dedication. I don't think he plays 5-7 hours of basketball everyday. It's not the same effort, so the training is different. They stay 6 hours on a bike without interruption., you don't play 6 hours of basketball.
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July 28th 03, 01:59 PM
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July 28th 03, 02:06 PM
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lazysegall wrote in message ...
Steven L. Sheff wrote: On 7/27/03 9:25 PM, in article , "Steve" wrote: Congrtas to LA for a well deserved win. The dedication, the mental strength and the superiority in his sport is really amazing. Reminds me of Michael when he had total control of Basketball. But who's the greater athlete? MJ- the ultimate competitor, refuses to lose, always finds a way to win, never failed in any level. LA- overcame cancer, argueably in a tougher sport, the best cycler ever. Lance is hardly the best cyclist ever. The names Eddy Merckx, Fausto Coppi, and Bernard Hinault ring a bell at all? How about Jacques Anquetil and Miguel Indurain? Tough one, isn't it? Personally, I think they are tied, but if LA comes back next year and wins his 6th TdF, he'll go down is the greatest athlete of all times. --Steve I think you could be the greatest cyclist and not the greatest athlete ever. Indurain was not a great rider and I don;t want to hear that he was. I also think that Cycling is differnt now. Preperation has become so scientific that a GC rider can only realistically peak for a month or two. Look at Simoni. He was in top form for the Giro and then looked like a differnt rider. To further support that point I think that Heras will ride a great Vuelta. Take a look at a guy like Vinokourov, he's been in form the whole year. He's proof that you still can race at a high level all year. Simonis form is the result of the fact that he hasn't raced between the Giro and the Tour, that was his mistake, he didn't prepare enough for the tour. I my opimion Armstrong is way too single minded to ever reach the highest ranks of cyclists. He's always going to be one step behind even if he wins his 6th tour. All the others in the 5-tour club have also won the Giro, Armstrong hasn't even tried.
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July 28th 03, 02:56 PM
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"bigfloppyllama" wrote in message ... Jiyang Chen wrote: Lance Armstrong trains a lot more than Michael Jordan. 5-7 hours on the bike plus weight lifting on some days. Lance Armstrong relies on natural ability as well as being one of the most dedicated athletes out there, and Michael Jordan relies on his natural skills more than dedication. I don't think he plays 5-7 hours of basketball everyday. "Steve" wrote in message news:827053f0.03072- ting.google.com... Congrtas to LA for a well deserved win. The dedication, the mental strength and the superiority in his sport is really amazing. Reminds me of Michael when he had total control of Basketball. But who's the greater athlete? MJ- the ultimate competitor, refuses to lose, always finds a way to win, never failed in any level. LA- overcame cancer, argueably in a tougher sport, the best cycler ever. Tough one, isn't it? Personally, I think they are tied, but if LA comes back next year and wins his 6th TdF, he'll go down is the greatest athlete of all times. --Steve And we mustn't forget Michael's little baseball stint. They are both amazing athletes in their own right, and I say we leave it at that. Actually I would argue that MJ's attempt at baseball works against him. He was awful. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com
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