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Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. |
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Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. |
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:57:25 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. That's awful. Drivers like that should be locked up for a very long time. I expect he'll just be fined for running into the cyclist, and the greater crime of wearing socks with sandals will be completely overlooked. |
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On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:57:25 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar
wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. It looks like that roundabout is a problem. Here someone is going around it the wrong way! http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?layer=...277.18,,0,13.2 |
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On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote:
Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. |
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Dex wrote:
On 10/03/2011 07:11, Mrcheerful wrote: Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. riding faster than the conditions dictate and probably no signal, both cyclist and car at fault. What a load of bull, the conditions couldn't have been much better, bright clear day, dry road, nothing in front of him, probably nothing behind. The cyclist was already level with the mini-roundabout when the car crossed the line, so no time for 'signalling', whatever signal means your taking the second exit, and no time to slow down. Why must you always lay part of the blame on the innocent party just because they don't have an engine? That motorist was either not paying attention and didn't see the cyclist or somehow assumed the cyclist was taking the 1st exit without bothering to signal. The driver of the black car on the other side of the road pulled out because he was expecting him to give way to the cyclist. 100% the drivers fault. I come across similar circumstances almost every day, yet I don't crash into them. People make mistakes, they misjudge which exit you are taking, that is just part of using the roads. If the cyclist had been taking sufficient care the crash would not have occurred, likewise if the car had been more cautious the crash would not have happened, both parties are at fault. It is no good being 'in the right' if you crash into something, whether you are in a car or not. But if you are very vulnerable like a cyclist then it makes even more sense to ride very cautiously and with massive forethought. As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put. |
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On 10/03/2011 07:55, Tom Crispin wrote:
On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 18:57:25 -0800 (PST), Nuxx Bar wrote: Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. It looks like that roundabout is a problem. Here someone is going around it the wrong way! http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?layer=...277.18,,0,13.2 IMO most mini roudabouts are a problem. |
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Nuxx Bar wrote:
Cyclist hit head on by car, looks bloody painful: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug Incidents like that are belittled by people like Jackson who go out with their helmet cams looking for trouble. Atrocious driving by the motorist. No fault whatsoever by the cyclist IMHO. |
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On Mar 10, 9:34*am, "Mrcheerful" wrote:
As to the indication: the cyclist should have (may have) indicated right on approach to the roundabout (and hopefully left before his exit, but that is less likely) and I would have taken a further right road position and proceeded cautiously till I had at least made eye contact with the car driver and was certain it was staying put.- Hide quoted text - - So you'd drive more slowly than that cyclist there? Care to estimate a number (in mph) that you would deem suitable? And as for eye contact, do you then drive even more slowly at night? Do you ever consider that as it is onl;y you, you could be wrong? |
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