Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 20:50:56 GMT, Mike Vandeman
wrote:

On Fri, 09 Mar 2007 15:39:44 GMT, I wrote:

On 9 Mar 2007 05:36:59 -0800, "bruno" wrote:

On Mar 9, 8:18 am, Mike Vandeman wrote:
Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking

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http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

too long.

Yes, and your attribution was a really effective use of bandwidth. :-|

Too long. If you want to communicate with mountain bikers, you need to
stick to words of one syl-la-ble.

I've been a regular r.b.s reader for years and always resisted
replying to MV before, but as a mountain biker I'm offended by Mike's,
"mountain biking in environmentally sensitive areas bad; therefore all
mountain bikers stupid" attitude.

Turns out I'm a Sierra Club member and SC National Outings leader, and
consider myself pretty environmentally savvy. I've never ridden my MTB
on hiking-only trails nor used any trails illegally blazed by militant
MTBers.

While out hiking yesterday it occurred to me that Mike's problem with
MTBers is one of degree. Tearing up the undergrowth with hiking boots
is okay, but doing it with tires is unacceptable. Agreed that tires
damage trails to a greater extent than boots, but if Mike actually
wanted to keep wild areas pristine he'd also be railing against
hikers.

John Everett - One MTBer who uses words with multiple syl-la-bles.


--
jeverett3ATsbcglobalDOTnet (John V. Everett)

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
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Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007



Frequently asked by whom?

You are a lying sack of **** Michael. You purport to have been a chair of an
SC committee for the past decade, and this is a flat out lie. You may have
been a chair at some point in the past decade, but stating that you have
been FOR the past decade demands an ongoing chairmanship.

I take back the "lying sack of ****" comment. You are not a lying sack of
**** using the New Vandeman World Dictionary where word meaning varies
depending on your intrepretation(s). Using the dictionaries that the rest of
us use makes you a liar.

On Mar 10, 9:19 am, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message

...

Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007

Frequently asked by whom?

Why bother? He's a troll, and I think everybody catches on right
away. Even the dumbest usenetter gets it pretty quickly.

The givaway is this - when he gets cornered, it's "yawn" or "did you
say something?" and he goes back under his bridge, or starts a new
thread with a new tack.

His goal is to waste time here and in the other groups, to distract
folks from actually talking about their outdoor hobby.

I don't think the response to him will ever reach zero, because
there's a new hook baited every day, and a new fish to grab the bait.
But you should know by now that replying to him is only creating more
noise. And he likes it.

Maybe you could listen to this request from a more rational person:
please, please, please - don't respond. Just let him eat static. I,
for one, would very much appreciate it.

Thanks,

E.P.

In message , di
writes

"Devs" wrote in message
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In message , Mike Vandeman
writes
unfounded, opinionated crap.

Did a mountain biker shag your wife?
--
Devs
"Punchdown Pete the old Kroner"

Are you kidding, Mike with a wife, his personality prevented that.


Oh I get it, Mike has no life but because mountain bikers do, they are
responsible for world famine, wars and global warming. Do you think he
would shut up if we all chipped in and bought him a hooker?
--
Devs
"Punchdown Pete the old Kroner"

"Devs" wrote in message
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Are you kidding, Mike with a wife, his personality prevented that.


Oh I get it, Mike has no life but because mountain bikers do, they are
responsible for world famine, wars and global warming. Do you think he
would shut up if we all chipped in and bought him a hooker?
--
Devs


It's doubtful if he would know what to do with a hooker, we would have to
get a volunteer to coach him.

On 10 Mar 2007 09:49:59 -0800, "Ed Pirrero"
wrote:

On Mar 10, 9:19 am, "Jeff Strickland" wrote:
"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message

...

Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007

Frequently asked by whom?

Why bother? He's a troll, and I think everybody catches on right
away. Even the dumbest usenetter gets it pretty quickly.

The givaway is this - when he gets cornered, it's "yawn" or "did you
say something?" and he goes back under his bridge, or starts a new
thread with a new tack.

His goal is to waste time here and in the other groups, to distract
folks from actually talking about their outdoor hobby.

I don't think the response to him will ever reach zero, because
there's a new hook baited every day, and a new fish to grab the bait.
But you should know by now that replying to him is only creating more
noise. And he likes it.

Maybe you could listen to this request from a more rational person:
please, please, please - don't respond. Just let him eat static. I,
for one, would very much appreciate it.

Too bad mountain bikers don't even listen to their own peers! You are
wasting your breath.

Thanks,

E.P.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:19:20 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
.. .
Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007



Frequently asked by whom?

You are a lying sack of **** Michael. You purport to have been a chair of an
SC committee for the past decade, and this is a flat out lie. You may have
been a chair at some point in the past decade, but stating that you have
been FOR the past decade demands an ongoing chairmanship.

At the time I wrote that, I had been the chair for a decade. So
where's the lie? Missing in action, as usual. That makes YOU the liar.
No surprize there!
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:39:39 -0700, Mike Vandeman
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:19:20 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
. ..
Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007



Frequently asked by whom?

You are a lying sack of **** Michael. You purport to have been a chair of an
SC committee for the past decade, and this is a flat out lie. You may have
been a chair at some point in the past decade, but stating that you have
been FOR the past decade demands an ongoing chairmanship.

At the time I wrote that, I had been the chair for a decade. So
where's the lie? Missing in action, as usual. That makes YOU the liar.
No surprize there!

As a Sierra Club National Outings leader I have access to internal
club data bases. I don't know in which area of the club Mike claims to
be/have been active, but I just checked the rosters of all 23 outings
subcommittees and Mike not only doesn't chair any of them but he isn't
even a member of any of them.

--
jeverett3ATsbcglobalDOTnet (John V. Everett)

"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:19:20 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
. ..
Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007



Frequently asked by whom?

You are a lying sack of **** Michael. You purport to have been a chair of
an
SC committee for the past decade, and this is a flat out lie. You may have
been a chair at some point in the past decade, but stating that you have
been FOR the past decade demands an ongoing chairmanship.

At the time I wrote that, I had been the chair for a decade. So
where's the lie? Missing in action, as usual. That makes YOU the liar.
No surprize there!



YOU updated the article on March 8, 2007, by your own admission. This was 3
days ago. You have not been chair of anything having to do with the SC for
the past decade. Indeed, you are persona non grata at the SC for as long as
I have been visiting ca.environment, which is about 7 years.

You are a lying sack of ****.

"John Everett" wrote in message
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On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:39:39 -0700, Mike Vandeman
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:19:20 GMT, "Jeff Strickland"
wrote:


"Mike Vandeman" wrote in message
...
Frequently Asked Questions about Mountain Biking
Michael Vandeman, Ph.D.
Updated March 8, 2007



Frequently asked by whom?

You are a lying sack of **** Michael. You purport to have been a chair of
an
SC committee for the past decade, and this is a flat out lie. You may
have
been a chair at some point in the past decade, but stating that you have
been FOR the past decade demands an ongoing chairmanship.

At the time I wrote that, I had been the chair for a decade. So
where's the lie? Missing in action, as usual. That makes YOU the liar.
No surprize there!

As a Sierra Club National Outings leader I have access to internal
club data bases. I don't know in which area of the club Mike claims to
be/have been active, but I just checked the rosters of all 23 outings
subcommittees and Mike not only doesn't chair any of them but he isn't
even a member of any of them.


Mike is not a member of the Club anymore.