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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 2018-08-24 12:01, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 2:17:27 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-24 10:11, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/24/2018 10:35 AM, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? I wouldn't fault the rack designer too much. Bikes come in such incredible variety it's tricky to design even stationary bike racks. And transit companies are seldom flush with funds. They can spend only so much to accommodate the one percent with unusual bikes. In this day and age 27-1/2" and 29" bikes hardly represent 1%. And yes, the designers are at fault. They should have tested or at least hold a design review with actual cyclists attending. In med-tech we are obligated to hold those and for good reasons. Also, as I wrote even a simple 26" MTB didn't fit completely, the rear wheel remained an inch above the rail floor. In my book that constitutes a thoroughly botched design. As to your question: I wonder if a velcro strap with rectangular ring might work. They're fast to install and surprisingly strong. See, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Cabl...g=UTF8&s=a ht Thanks, but I do not trust plastic for this stuff. The Arno straps that Sir mentioned seem to be the ticket here. Of course, there remains the risk that a picky bus driver refuses to accept that mounting method and we'd be stranded. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Around here the bus drivers don't mind the few seconds it takes to use a long Arno strap to secure the bike to the rack. I just loop the strap around the top tube of the bike and then around the bus rack and cinch the Arno strap tight. It takes just seconds and I usually have it done whilst other passengers are getting on or off the bus. Arno straps are really tough as are their buckles. I've never had an Arno strap fail nor its buckle even when being used in the dead of winter. I've had many a plastic buckle snap when being cinched in winter's cold. I'll have to cinch down the rim only because going over the frame won't prevent the bike from sliding out sideways. Reason is that with a 29er MTB one wheel rides on top of a slot rail end instead of down in the slot. Probably the straps are some sort of Nylon material so I should be able to cut one to 15" length and use a cigarette lighter to re-seal the cut strands so they won't unravel. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:25:58 AM UTC-5, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:35:42 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You should look into getting a few Cohglans Arno Straps. They are like super long nylon toestraps and have a metal buckle that does not fall apart when reefed really tight. I'ved used them to secure a recliner rocker chair to my rear bike rack. I also use them for fastening everything to the bike when touring. In addition to that I use them for holding the rolled up sleeping bag, tent etcetera instead of having to fumble with laces etcetera. Here's a link to an actual card with two Arno straps on it. https://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/...9227/cat101260 You can get them in lengths of 36" to 60". The straps are 3/4" wide. Cheers Never knew those had such an official formal name. Coghlans Arno Straps. I always just called them "straps with buckles on the end". |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 24-08-18 16:35, Joerg wrote:
Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? I have occasionally had a problem with my MTB in a Swiss train. Depending on the train, there will typically be a space for bikes at the end of the wagon. There you can hang the front wheel of your bike by a hook, and the back wheel will be in a vertically mounted U-shaped, fitting to keep it from swaying too much. See https://www.radreise-wiki.de/Datei:S...lbstverlad.JPG However, especially in older rail cars sometimes the hooks are too near the ceiling and the wall, so that 2.25" tires won't fit. The train operators (mainly the federal rail system) know about this problem, but solving it involves more than just replacing the hooks. Newer trains sometimes will have a wagon with a different sort of bike parking: https://blog.veloplus.ch/2015/03/24/...velotransport/ That works well, and it's easier to park your bike. Ned |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 2018-08-25 07:19, Ned Mantei wrote:
On 24-08-18 16:35, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? I have occasionally had a problem with my MTB in a Swiss train. Depending on the train, there will typically be a space for bikes at the end of the wagon. There you can hang the front wheel of your bike by a hook, and the back wheel will be in a vertically mounted U-shaped, fitting to keep it from swaying too much. See https://www.radreise-wiki.de/Datei:S...lbstverlad.JPG However, especially in older rail cars sometimes the hooks are too near the ceiling and the wall, so that 2.25" tires won't fit. The train operators (mainly the federal rail system) know about this problem, but solving it involves more than just replacing the hooks. Why? I am sure that one of my riding buddies who is a machinist could devise a solution and build a prototype in one afternoon. Newer trains sometimes will have a wagon with a different sort of bike parking: https://blog.veloplus.ch/2015/03/24/...velotransport/ That works well, and it's easier to park your bike. Seems they learned. I am trying now as well, have contacted someone higher up at the transit agency and he already responded. He wants to study our loading efforts on a camera recording to see the problem in more detail. I didn't know they also had a running camera for that. If he can't I'll ride my bike up there for a meeting at the bus depot. It's a nice singletrack. Some of it gnarly, one of riding friends turfed it on Thursday and now his shoulder hurts badly. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 8/24/2018 2:17 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-08-24 10:11, Frank Krygowski wrote: As to your question: I wonder if a velcro strap with rectangular ring might work. They're fast to install and surprisingly strong. See, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Cabl...g=UTF8&s=a ht Thanks, but I do not trust plastic for this stuff. The Arno straps that Sir mentioned seem to be the ticket here. Of course, there remains the risk that a picky bus driver refuses to accept that mounting method and we'd be stranded. I do have some with steel loops, but that's OK. I should have known it wouldn't work for you. ;-) A certain guy I know well once had a habit of asking my advice. "Can you come over and look at this? You're an engineer." So I'd visit and hear "The garage door track is coming loose" or "This table I'm building has wobbly legs" or "I need a way to carry this bag on the back of my bike" or a bunch of other things. In each case, the answer seemed obvious to me - as in "You need something to resist that bending moment, so if you add a brace here" or "... if you screw this in two places..." or whatever. Invariably, he'd say "That won't work, because..." and spout some nonsense. I still see the guy from time to time. When he asks me about problems now, I usually say things like "Yeah, I see why that bothers you. What do you think?" and later "Well, you could try that if you like." -- - Frank Krygowski --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 8/24/2018 2:09 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-08-24 09:21, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:25:58 AM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:35:42 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You should look into getting a few Cohglans Arno Straps. They are like super long nylon toestraps and have a metal buckle that does not fall apart when reefed really tight. I'ved used them to secure a recliner rocker chair to my rear bike rack. I also use them for fastening everything to the bike when touring. In addition to that I use them for holding the rolled up sleeping bag, tent etcetera instead of having to fumble with laces etcetera. Here's a link to an actual card with two Arno straps on it. https://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/...9227/cat101260 Aha, Arno straps! Thanks, those look very good. They can also come in handy when something structural breaks on the bike during a trail ride. You can get them in lengths of 36" to 60". The straps are 3/4" wide. Cheers Addendum I forgot to mention that I use those Arno Straps to secure my mountain bicyle to the front rack on our inter-city bus. It's great insurance for when the bus is running at highway speeds. On the freeway the bus driver really stepped on it and actually passed a tour bus. I was concerned that the handlebar of my bike might smash a front window on the bus but despite being just 2" from it that didn't happen. He took corners Mario Andretti style and luckily neither bike flew out sideways. The bungees were all that was holding them sideways to the bus depending on curve direction (away from the hook). If I was an engineer on the design review for such a rack (they don't seem to hold any design reviews ...) I'd insist that there are wheel hooks for front and rear wheel. And, of course, slots long enough for 29ers and 27-1/2 bikes. In fact, then you could leave the slots open to the curb side making loading and unloading much easier for older riders who can't lift a bike upwards while bent over (something even young people should avoid). Don't forget to design for small wheel, short wheelbase shopping bikes. And for long wheelbase "flatfoot" bikes. For short wheelbase and long wheelbase recumbents. For recumbents with 20" wheels and 700c wheels. For under-seat steering and above-seat steering. For tandems, including conventional, small wheel, and recumbent. For tall bikes and for antiques, including high wheelers. (Most of those are very valuable.) For carbon fiber frames as well as metal. For folding bikes, especially if carrying packs, because those frequently can't go into the bus. For electric assist bikes, and electric powered bikes. Don't worry about unicycles. This is a BIcycle discussion group. -- - Frank Krygowski --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 8/25/2018 1:22 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/24/2018 2:09 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-24 09:21, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:25:58 AM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:35:42 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You should look into getting a few Cohglans Arno Straps. They are like super long nylon toestraps and have a metal buckle that does not fall apart when reefed really tight. I'ved used them to secure a recliner rocker chair to my rear bike rack. I also use them for fastening everything to the bike when touring. In addition to that I use them for holding the rolled up sleeping bag, tent etcetera instead of having to fumble with laces etcetera. Here's a link to an actual card with two Arno straps on it. https://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/...9227/cat101260 Aha, Arno straps! Thanks, those look very good. They can also come in handy when something structural breaks on the bike during a trail ride. You can get them in lengths of 36" to 60". The straps are 3/4" wide. Cheers Addendum I forgot to mention that I use those Arno Straps to secure my mountain bicyle to the front rack on our inter-city bus. It's great insurance for when the bus is running at highway speeds. On the freeway the bus driver really stepped on it and actually passed a tour bus. I was concerned that the handlebar of my bike might smash a front window on the bus but despite being just 2" from it that didn't happen. He took corners Mario Andretti style and luckily neither bike flew out sideways. The bungees were all that was holding them sideways to the bus depending on curve direction (away from the hook). If I was an engineer on the design review for such a rack (they don't seem to hold any design reviews ...) I'd insist that there are wheel hooks for front and rear wheel. And, of course, slots long enough for 29ers and 27-1/2 bikes. In fact, then you could leave the slots open to the curb side making loading and unloading much easier for older riders who can't lift a bike upwards while bent over (something even young people should avoid). Don't forget to design for small wheel, short wheelbase shopping bikes. And for long wheelbase "flatfoot" bikes. For short wheelbase and long wheelbase recumbents. For recumbents with 20" wheels and 700c wheels. For under-seat steering and above-seat steering. For tandems, including conventional, small wheel, and recumbent. For tall bikes and for antiques, including high wheelers. (Most of those are very valuable.) For carbon fiber frames as well as metal. For folding bikes, especially if carrying packs, because those frequently can't go into the bus. For electric assist bikes, and electric powered bikes. Don't worry about unicycles. This is a BIcycle discussion group. More true than you know, Frank. Sold a wheel tray type hitch-mount car carrier last week to a guy who came back because the retaining strap for the downtube would not span the 6"x10" downtube on his XMart internal battery wonder toy. O Tempora! O Mores! As it turns out, the Saris polymer strap-buckle thingy can be doubled up nose-to-toe and we stock them anyway. https://66e2197c1fdd000748fd-b9614b5.../15539_700.jpg -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 2018-08-25 11:39, AMuzi wrote:
On 8/25/2018 1:22 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/24/2018 2:09 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-24 09:21, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 11:25:58 AM UTC-4, Sir Ridesalot wrote: On Friday, August 24, 2018 at 10:35:42 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote: Couldn't believe it. Those great agency folks obviously didn't test the bike racks for our local buses before signing the contract. Long story short my 29er bike didn't fit in and neither did my friend's. Luckily the driver was patient and helpful. We had to load the bikes reversed so the hook goes over the rear wheel. Not easy because of my panniers but worked, somehow. The front wheels now rode up on the other side of the rack slot. We both had bungee cords with which we strapped them down as hard as we could. Oh, and the slot width barely fit my 2.25" wide MTB tires barely squeezed in and I had to push down hard. The rack looks like this: https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/sho...8df2678ec2064b When we arrived another rider put his 26" MTB on there on even that barely fit in (rear wheel rode up half an inch). Does anyone know a better "strap down" method that is faster than wrapping a bungee around rim and rack numerous times? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ You should look into getting a few Cohglans Arno Straps. They are like super long nylon toestraps and have a metal buckle that does not fall apart when reefed really tight. I'ved used them to secure a recliner rocker chair to my rear bike rack. I also use them for fastening everything to the bike when touring. In addition to that I use them for holding the rolled up sleeping bag, tent etcetera instead of having to fumble with laces etcetera. Here's a link to an actual card with two Arno straps on it. https://www.sportsmanswarehouse.com/...9227/cat101260 Aha, Arno straps! Thanks, those look very good. They can also come in handy when something structural breaks on the bike during a trail ride. You can get them in lengths of 36" to 60". The straps are 3/4" wide. Cheers Addendum I forgot to mention that I use those Arno Straps to secure my mountain bicyle to the front rack on our inter-city bus. It's great insurance for when the bus is running at highway speeds. On the freeway the bus driver really stepped on it and actually passed a tour bus. I was concerned that the handlebar of my bike might smash a front window on the bus but despite being just 2" from it that didn't happen. He took corners Mario Andretti style and luckily neither bike flew out sideways. The bungees were all that was holding them sideways to the bus depending on curve direction (away from the hook). If I was an engineer on the design review for such a rack (they don't seem to hold any design reviews ...) I'd insist that there are wheel hooks for front and rear wheel. And, of course, slots long enough for 29ers and 27-1/2 bikes. In fact, then you could leave the slots open to the curb side making loading and unloading much easier for older riders who can't lift a bike upwards while bent over (something even young people should avoid). Don't forget to design for small wheel, short wheelbase shopping bikes. And for long wheelbase "flatfoot" bikes. For short wheelbase and long wheelbase recumbents. For recumbents with 20" wheels and 700c wheels. For under-seat steering and above-seat steering. For tandems, including conventional, small wheel, and recumbent. For tall bikes and for antiques, including high wheelers. (Most of those are very valuable.) For carbon fiber frames as well as metal. For folding bikes, especially if carrying packs, because those frequently can't go into the bus. For electric assist bikes, and electric powered bikes. Don't worry about unicycles. This is a BIcycle discussion group. But don't forget the rolling zeppelins. More true than you know, Frank. Sold a wheel tray type hitch-mount car carrier last week to a guy who came back because the retaining strap for the downtube would not span the 6"x10" downtube on his XMart internal battery wonder toy. O Tempora! O Mores! As it turns out, the Saris polymer strap-buckle thingy can be doubled up nose-to-toe and we stock them anyway. https://66e2197c1fdd000748fd-b9614b5.../15539_700.jpg Most bus passengers won't show up with E-bikes because the driver is not allowed to assist with loading and those things are heavy. Straps aren't a problem because they clamp a wheel. However, slot length will increasingly problematic on not so well designed racks like they are used on our buses. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Bus bike rack too short, how to strap in a bike quickly?
On 2018-08-25 11:12, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 8/24/2018 2:17 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-24 10:11, Frank Krygowski wrote: As to your question: I wonder if a velcro strap with rectangular ring might work. They're fast to install and surprisingly strong. See, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Cabl...g=UTF8&s=a ht Thanks, but I do not trust plastic for this stuff. The Arno straps that Sir mentioned seem to be the ticket here. Of course, there remains the risk that a picky bus driver refuses to accept that mounting method and we'd be stranded. I do have some with steel loops, but that's OK. I should have known it wouldn't work for you. ;-) A certain guy I know well once had a habit of asking my advice. "Can you come over and look at this? You're an engineer." So I'd visit and hear "The garage door track is coming loose" or "This table I'm building has wobbly legs" or "I need a way to carry this bag on the back of my bike" or a bunch of other things. In each case, the answer seemed obvious to me - as in "You need something to resist that bending moment, so if you add a brace here" or "... if you screw this in two places..." or whatever. Invariably, he'd say "That won't work, because..." and spout some nonsense. I still see the guy from time to time. When he asks me about problems now, I usually say things like "Yeah, I see why that bothers you. What do you think?" and later "Well, you could try that if you like." I would have assumed that you as a mechanical engineer would understand that plastic buckles will not be adequate for holding a bike wheel _on_ the slot (not _in_ the slot) at freeway speeds and when taking corners at a good clip. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 2:58:12 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-08-25 11:12, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 8/24/2018 2:17 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-08-24 10:11, Frank Krygowski wrote: As to your question: I wonder if a velcro strap with rectangular ring might work. They're fast to install and surprisingly strong. See, for example: https://www.amazon.com/Reusable-Cabl...g=UTF8&s=a ht Thanks, but I do not trust plastic for this stuff. The Arno straps that Sir mentioned seem to be the ticket here. Of course, there remains the risk that a picky bus driver refuses to accept that mounting method and we'd be stranded. I do have some with steel loops, but that's OK. I should have known it wouldn't work for you. ;-) A certain guy I know well once had a habit of asking my advice. "Can you come over and look at this? You're an engineer." So I'd visit and hear "The garage door track is coming loose" or "This table I'm building has wobbly legs" or "I need a way to carry this bag on the back of my bike" or a bunch of other things. In each case, the answer seemed obvious to me - as in "You need something to resist that bending moment, so if you add a brace here" or "... if you screw this in two places..." or whatever. Invariably, he'd say "That won't work, because..." and spout some nonsense. I still see the guy from time to time. When he asks me about problems now, I usually say things like "Yeah, I see why that bothers you. What do you think?" and later "Well, you could try that if you like." I would have assumed that you as a mechanical engineer would understand that plastic buckles will not be adequate for holding a bike wheel _on_ the slot (not _in_ the slot) at freeway speeds and when taking corners at a good clip. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ When I know the bus is going onto a highway, I use two Arno straps on the bus carrier to brace the bike so that it doesn't end up leaning to one side or the other and thus put a lot of sideways pressure on the wheels. Again, I wrap the Arno straps around the FRAME not the wheels so that the sideways stress is take by the frame and straps not the wheels. Cheers |
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