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Old April 6th 08, 03:27 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Vandeman
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Default Mountain Bikers' Alleged "Love of Nature"

This is a good example of the attitude of the typical mountain biker:
they are ONLY interested in bike access to trails, NOT caring for the
park.

Mike


Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 22:18:26 -0700
From: pete fagerlin
Subject: Let's get dirty - Saturday, April 12 at Mt. Diablo State
Park

msrutzie wrote:
Did you know the Mount Diablo State Park essentially gets no funding
for trail maintenance?

Did you know that essentially the best riding in Mt. Diablo State Park
is off-limits to bikes?

Please let Caryn Kralovansky and Jeff Beach know that I will be there
when Mt. Diablo State Park needs help with trail maintenance on
Middle,
Bald, Back Creek, Heatherington, etc. when they are bike-legal trails.

Until then, let the wide track erode a bit, become a bit un-level and
let the debris stay. It makes some relatively tame trail slightly more
interesting...

Happy carpooling!
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humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

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Old April 6th 08, 04:08 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Siskuwihane[_2_]
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Default Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"


This is a good example of the attitude of the typical envirotard(tm)
they are ONLY interested in their own comfort and convenience, NOT
caring for the
planet.

They FLY on commercial airlines to international conferences even
though they know jet engines release tons of chemicals and greenhouse
gasses directly into the upper atmosphere.

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Old April 6th 08, 01:20 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Jens Müller[_2_]
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Default Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"

Siskuwihane schrieb:
This is a good example of the attitude of the typical envirotard(tm)
they are ONLY interested in their own comfort and convenience, NOT
caring for the
planet.

They FLY on commercial airlines to international conferences even
though they know jet engines release tons of chemicals and greenhouse
gasses directly into the upper atmosphere.


Well, if they plant a tree for every flight, they call it sustainable ...
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Old April 6th 08, 09:45 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Mike Romain
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Default Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"

Siskuwihane wrote:
This is a good example of the attitude of the typical envirotard(tm)
they are ONLY interested in their own comfort and convenience, NOT
caring for the
planet.

They FLY on commercial airlines to international conferences even
though they know jet engines release tons of chemicals and greenhouse
gasses directly into the upper atmosphere.


You know, it is really scary, but he actually might be contributing to
'saving' us from, or at least slowing down "global warming" by putting
up a sunshade. If it wasn't for our pollution sunshade, we might have
warmed up a bunch more like Mars has over the last few years in the
latest sun cycle.

Mike
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Old April 6th 08, 10:57 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"Mike Romain" wrote in message
ng.com...
Siskuwihane wrote:
This is a good example of the attitude of the typical envirotard(tm)
they are ONLY interested in their own comfort and convenience, NOT
caring for the
planet.

They FLY on commercial airlines to international conferences even
though they know jet engines release tons of chemicals and greenhouse
gasses directly into the upper atmosphere.


You know, it is really scary, but he actually might be contributing to
'saving' us from, or at least slowing down "global warming" by putting up
a sunshade. If it wasn't for our pollution sunshade, we might have warmed
up a bunch more like Mars has over the last few years in the latest sun
cycle.



With all of the improvements in Martian climate patters, it's still not a
vacation hot spot like Hawaii, or Antartica.





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Old April 7th 08, 01:57 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Tom Sherman[_2_]
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Default Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"

V-for-Vendicar wrote:
"Bill Sornson" wrote
You'll note, of course, that the GWAs (Global Warming Alarmists) don't
take the sun into account at all in their so-called calculations and
projections.


And that makes Bill Sornson a LIAR.

Sorni is not a liar in this case, just brainwashed by right-wing talk radio.

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Old April 7th 08, 01:59 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Dan
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Bill Sornson wrote:
Mike Romain wrote:
Siskuwihane wrote:
This is a good example of the attitude of the typical envirotard(tm)
they are ONLY interested in their own comfort and convenience, NOT
caring for the
planet.

They FLY on commercial airlines to international conferences even
though they know jet engines release tons of chemicals and greenhouse
gasses directly into the upper atmosphere.

You know, it is really scary, but he actually might be contributing to
'saving' us from, or at least slowing down "global warming" by putting
up a sunshade. If it wasn't for our pollution sunshade, we might have
warmed up a bunch more like Mars has over the last few years in the
latest sun cycle.


You'll note, of course, that the GWAs (Global Warming Alarmists) don't take
the sun into account at all in their so-called calculations and projections.


No, I didn't know that, and neither do you. You REALLY need to stop
getting your science news from talk radio and the newsgroups.

Dan
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Old April 7th 08, 02:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
Dan
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Default Envirotards' Alleged "Love of Nature"

V-for-Vendicar wrote:
"Bill Sornson" wrote
You'll note, of course, that the GWAs (Global Warming Alarmists) don't
take the sun into account at all in their so-called calculations and
projections.


And that makes Bill Sornson a LIAR.


That doesn't make him a LIAR; he could JUST be ignorant... That happens
to a lot of folks who get their science news from talk radio!

Dan


IPCC Climate Change 2001:
Working Group I: The Scientific Basis

Mann et al. (1998, 2000) used a multi-correlation technique and found
significant correlations with solar and, less so, with the volcanic forcing
over parts of the palaeo-record. The authors concluded that natural forcings
have been important on decadal-to-century time-scales, but that the dramatic
warming of the 20th century correlates best and very significantly with
greenhouse gas forcing. The use of multiple correlations avoids the
possibility of spuriously high correlations due to the common trend in the
solar and temperature time-series (Laut and Gunderman, 1998). Attempts to
estimate the contributions of natural and anthropogenic forcing to 20th
century temperature evolution simultaneously are discussed in Section 12.4.


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Old April 7th 08, 08:23 AM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
V-for-Vendicar
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"Jens Müller" wrote
Well, if they plant a tree for every flight, they call it sustainable ...


At least until the tree is cut down or dies.



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Old April 7th 08, 12:20 PM posted to alt.mountain-bike,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.backcountry,ca.environment,sci.environment
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"Bill Sornson" wrote in message
...
V-for-Vendicar wrote:
And that makes Bill Sornson a LIAR.



"Bill Sornson" wrote
LOL Grow up, sonny.


Well Billy, there are a couple here who have come to your defense and
claimed that you aren't necessarily a LIAR, you might just be a

MMMMOOOOOOORRRRRRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNN

So which is it John Boy? Are you a Liar or are you a Moron?

Both perhaps.

We await your decision.


I give. Your rapier wit and obvious knowledge on all matters
meteorological are too much. {pause} TOO MUCH BULL****, THAT IS! ROTFL
LOL ROTFL

Out. BS

http://media.kusi.clickability.com/d...l+Warming1.pdf

http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/stories...3_coolest.html

http://icecap.us/images/uploads/MoncktononBali2007.doc

Plenty more out there...just ask.


How dare you to offer some proof. They won't accept it because they have
their minds made up already.


 




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