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Old July 23rd 03, 05:39 PM
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http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/20.../index_np.html

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Old July 23rd 03, 10:51 PM
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"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
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They probably needed the money for Segway paths through the Sierras.
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If there is a demand locally, that is where it should be funded. Why should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


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Old July 23rd 03, 11:07 PM
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Why should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


Because otherwise you get the "we paid for it, so only we can use it"
mentality. If it's federally funded, then it's open to everyone.

Steve's 2-cents.
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Old July 24th 03, 02:13 AM
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"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ...
Why should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


Because otherwise you get the "we paid for it, so only we can use it"
mentality. If it's federally funded, then it's open to everyone.

Steve's 2-cents.


However, "federally funded" is a misnomer. It really means that it is
funded by tax payers. Is it fair that people in Alaska and Hawaii should
be required to pay for trails in North Carolina? Of course not. It's up to
each state to determine what area's are open to bikes/horses/motos/etc.
(with the exception of federally protected lands). Why should someone
be forced to 'buy' something they with most likely never see? In the free
market that is referred to as 'consumer fraud'. And remember, in the US
Constitution, amendment 10, "The powers not delegated to the United
States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved
to the states respectively, or to the people." 'Nough said.

Just my 2.5 cents.

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Old July 24th 03, 03:06 AM
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Cameron says:

However, "federally funded" is a misnomer. It really means that it is
funded by tax payers.


Yo - Duh!

Is it fair that people in Alaska and Hawaii should
be required to pay for trails in North Carolina?


Is it fair for someone who lives in NC to pay for stuff in Hawaii or Alaska?
Are you really that naive, Cam?

(with the exception of federally protected lands)


But those are paid for by the taxpayer - they should be open to anyone. Earth
to Cam.......

Why should someone
be forced to 'buy' something they with most likely never see?


THen stoip paying those taxes right now, Cam, coz some of your tax dollars just
re-paved part of Route 95 in RI.

Just my 2.5 cents.


You got gypped. Inflation again ;-)

Steve
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Old July 24th 03, 04:21 AM
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"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ...
Cameron says:

However, "federally funded" is a misnomer. It really means that it is
funded by tax payers.


Yo - Duh!


So why did you imply that it was a good thing? Hence:

Why should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


Because otherwise you get the "we paid for it, so only we can use it"
mentality. If it's federally funded, then it's open to everyone.

Steve's 2-cents.


[Pasted in because Steve cut it out :-) ]

Is it fair that people in Alaska and Hawaii should
be required to pay for trails in North Carolina?


Is it fair for someone who lives in NC to pay for stuff in Hawaii or Alaska?
Are you really that naive, Cam?


Naive? Do you even know what the word means? You're making my point for
me, thank you. I owe you a beer.


(with the exception of federally protected lands)


But those are paid for by the taxpayer - they should be open to anyone. Earth
to Cam.......


Err, reality to Steve....

Federally protected lands have a variety of use restrictions on them. They are most
definitely not open to everyone. Just because my taxes goes to them doesn't mean
I can use the land in any way I wish. And yes, I do support the idea that some lands
should be protected; i.e. Yellowstone National Park. But that doesn't mean that some
suit in NY that has never lifted more than 20lbs in his life should be required to fund
my desire to ride in western WA.

Why should someone
be forced to 'buy' something they with most likely never see?


THen stoip paying those taxes right now, Cam, coz some of your tax dollars just
re-paved part of Route 95 in RI.


For starters, going to prison has never been a goal in my life.

As for R95 RI, I can't say. But the Fed's do have a role in highways; since they are
authorized to handle interstate commerce.

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to hear me scream, did I really make a sound?

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Old July 24th 03, 05:22 AM
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ctg wrote:
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Chris


Depending on what else was cut, this may not be bad. Well, not any
worse than the usual we can expect from a conservative Congress. :-)
Bikes belong on roads (or trails). OTOH since on-road bike lanes are
frequently(?) counted as "bike paths," this sucks.

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Old July 24th 03, 08:19 AM
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in message
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"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
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says...
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/20.../index_np.html

Chris




They probably needed the money for Segway paths through the Sierras.
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http://www.ramsays-online.com


If there is a demand locally, that is where it should be funded. Why

should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


Because AK residents receive a $1500 stipend per resident each year for OIL!

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Old July 24th 03, 09:10 AM
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:19:41 GMT, "Phil, Squid-in-Training"
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"news.verizon.net" wrote in message
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"Chris Phillipo" wrote in message
.. .
In article ,
says...
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/20.../index_np.html

Chris




They probably needed the money for Segway paths through the Sierras.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
http://www.ramsays-online.com


If there is a demand locally, that is where it should be funded. Why

should
people in alaska pay taxes for bike trails in the lower 48...


Because AK residents receive a $1500 stipend per resident each year for OIL!


Which almost makes up for our higher cost of living. Doh.

-Slash
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Old July 24th 03, 04:12 PM
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"Stephen Baker" spewed forth in message ...
Cameron says:

As for R95 RI, I can't say. But the Fed's do have a role in highways; since
they are
authorized to handle interstate commerce.


My point, Cam, is that you (wherever you live)


Everett, Washington.

are paying taxes that help keep
MY roads in good shape. By your own admission, this is what you would like to
see stop.

Steve


Uh, Steve, you just quoted me as saying that the Fed's *do* have a role in roads..........

My point is simply that the government should do it's job and obey the constitution. Please
show me where the constitution requires the fed's to support mountain biking.

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Cameron


 




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