Diff'n between chain oil and chain wax?

And advantanges or disadvantages between the 2, or when to use which?

Frank

"Zilla" wrote in news:ijyUa.2710$oq.2043
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Chain "oil" usually applies on wet, while chain "wax" usually
applies on dry. Hence, the wax does not attract dirt as the oil
would. Lots of folks here use White Lightning for chain wax.
Wax creates a build up though that one has to scrape off.

Pedro's chain wax doesn't build up much. You can just wash it off with a
hose. You do have to reapply it after *every* ride, though.

Ken wrote in message ...
"Zilla" wrote in news:ijyUa.2710$oq.2043
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Chain "oil" usually applies on wet, while chain "wax" usually
applies on dry. Hence, the wax does not attract dirt as the oil
would. Lots of folks here use White Lightning for chain wax.
Wax creates a build up though that one has to scrape off.

Pedro's chain wax doesn't build up much. You can just wash it off with a
hose. You do have to reapply it after *every* ride, though.

I used Pedros Chain Wax for a half a season and it was self
cleaning . Unlike the messy White Lightning , it heldup better after
stream crossings. Unfortunately , a lot of the LBS in my area rarely
carried it and it became difficult to find . I went back to the Pedros
Extra Dry with Teflon , which seems to work in all conditions and
keeps the grime down . I usually clean my chain when I clean my bike
anyway ( every other ride , except during muddy conditions ).

M&M

Ken wrote:

Pedro's chain wax doesn't build up much. You can just wash it off with a
hose.
That was basically the problem I found with White Lightening. One stream
crossing and your chain was non-lubed. I've switched back to Tri-Flow
for the mtn bike.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado
(remove ".nospam" to reply)

That was basically the problem I found with White Lightening. One stream
crossing and your chain was non-lubed. I've switched back to Tri-Flow
for the mtn bike.

--
Craig Brossman, Durango Colorado

LOL... stream crossing, now THAT is a novel idea...

-John Morgan

"amesan" wrote in message .ca...
And advantanges or disadvantages between the 2, or when to use which?

Frank

Most of the oil type lubes I've used have done a great job of
lubricating the chain but have also attracted a lot of dirt and gunk
which can cause its own problems with shifting.

I've been using Pedros Ice Wax here in NE for a few years and its done
a great job of lubricating as well as keeping my drivetrain clean. It
keeps it clean enough so that riding buddies are always asking if I
just replaced my cassette.

The big drawback is that wax is not a "squirt it in an forget it" type
of lubricant. I have found that if I soak a new chain in a zip lock
bag filled with some wax (after I've removed that sticky **** that
comes on new chains) then hang it up to dry over night, I get much
better performance out of additional waxes. You need to give your
chain a quick wipe down after every ride, reapply the wax, then wipe
of the excess wax after ten minutes or so.

Its more maintenance than a lot of people are willing to do and most
people that you hear complain about the performance of wax didn't
really use it correctly.

T

Mark "(UK)" said:



"dusty riding
conditions."


Heheheheheh - yeah, been an unusual few months weather-wise eh? ',;~}~





Shaun aRe - He said 'UK' and 'dusty', heheheheh...........

"Shaun Rimmer" wrote in message
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Mark "(UK)" said:



"dusty riding
conditions."


Heheheheheh - yeah, been an unusual few months weather-wise eh? ',;~}~





Shaun aRe - He said 'UK' and 'dusty', heheheheh...........


yeah although last week or so has been far from dusty. I ride a different
bike in the rain though, and i sure don't use wax on that one's chain...
Can't beat good old light oil in the wet.
Cheers
Mark

"Tom Walker" wrote in message
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"Mark \(UK\)" wrote in message
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Hi Tom. I've used similar wax for a while now. The only problem I've had
is
when switching to a new chain. How did you go about removing the factory
lube from the chain before its first wax? I went all out and degreased
the
thing with Gunk, but I think it degreased too much and stripped the
inner
rivets of their lube. Even after a few wax apps the chain still sounded
noisy and dry. The only cure I found was soaking in wet lube then wiping
it
all off before waxing again, but that's not an ideal solution. Any
ideas?

Other than wax is great and has been a god-send to me for dusty riding
conditions.
Cheers

Mark

When I get the new chain I put it in a zip lock freezer bag with some
Simple Green (undiluted or close to it) and shake it up for a couple
of minutes. Take the chain out, give it a thorough wiping off and
maybe let it dry out for a bit if you like. When you're done you
shouldn't feel any stickiness on the surface of the chain or in the
links. Next I put the chain in a new bag with some wax in it. You
don't need to drown it in wax but there should be plenty in there to
coat the whole chain. Again, shake it up and knead the chain through
the bag for a minute or two. Hang the chain from one end to dry
overnight. In the morning, wipe off the chain and you're ready to go.

My experience (not fact or professional opinion, mind you) is that wax
just will not work properly unless you remove the protective goop the
chain in packaged in. Also, the wax lasts longer when you take the
time to first soak the chain and really let it dry. I believe this is
because it allows the wax to work into the chain deeper. Failure to
wipe the excess wax off the chain will definitel cause build up of
wax.

T

Sounds to the letter like how I did it, except I used Gunk instead. Reckon
it was too strong a degreaser.

Mark (UK) wrote in message
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"Shaun Rimmer" wrote in message
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Mark "(UK)" said:



"dusty riding
conditions."


Heheheheheh - yeah, been an unusual few months weather-wise eh? ',;~}~





Shaun aRe - He said 'UK' and 'dusty', heheheheh...........


yeah although last week or so has been far from dusty.

Yeah - we've had (are having still) plenty of sky **** ;-(

I ride a different
bike in the rain though, and i sure don't use wax on that one's chain...
Can't beat good old light oil in the wet.
Cheers
Mark

Yup! And I take a small bottle with me on all rides anyhow - if it needs it,
flip the bike, 2 minutes and she's done again.


Shaun aRe - Ahem.