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"JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. "Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Peter" wrote in message .com... Well scott are good bikes so i recommend that you buy that one, but the kestrel i have never heard of so do some further research before you decide to buy it. Kestrel has been around building quality carbon frames for many years. The Scott CR1 is an awesome frame, but may cross the line into the "stupid light" category. I've seen it. I have a friend who is riding one now. He loves it. But I wonder how well it's going to hold up. The tubes are absolutely whisper thin and word is they can easily be destroyed by mistake in a shop stand. I'm not sure I'd want to entrust my welfare to a frame that's quite so fragile. Many frames nowadays are super thin and a ham fisted wrench could crush them. That is why most shops will not clamp on a frame tube. They clamp on the seat post. I would buy from Kestrel because they have a long track record and make their own frames. Some how I think Scott is a "ship the design specs off to China to see who can make it the cheapest" company ----------------- Alex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/3/2004 |
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"JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. "Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Peter" wrote in message .com... Well scott are good bikes so i recommend that you buy that one, but the kestrel i have never heard of so do some further research before you decide to buy it. Kestrel has been around building quality carbon frames for many years. The Scott CR1 is an awesome frame, but may cross the line into the "stupid light" category. I've seen it. I have a friend who is riding one now. He loves it. But I wonder how well it's going to hold up. The tubes are absolutely whisper thin and word is they can easily be destroyed by mistake in a shop stand. I'm not sure I'd want to entrust my welfare to a frame that's quite so fragile. Many frames nowadays are super thin and a ham fisted wrench could crush them. That is why most shops will not clamp on a frame tube. They clamp on the seat post. I would buy from Kestrel because they have a long track record and make their own frames. Some how I think Scott is a "ship the design specs off to China to see who can make it the cheapest" company ----------------- Alex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/3/2004 |
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Chris wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Lots of carbon shops in Taiwan. Lots of steel shops in Taiwan. Darnit,lots of semiconductor shops in Taiwan. Some assembly required, can be done where the "skilled" labour (craftsmanship) is. |
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Chris wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Lots of carbon shops in Taiwan. Lots of steel shops in Taiwan. Darnit,lots of semiconductor shops in Taiwan. Some assembly required, can be done where the "skilled" labour (craftsmanship) is. |
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"Chris" wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Chris, I spoke to one of their reps at the SFGP and he said that the manufacturing is now done in Taiwan. -- tanx, Howard "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody where he keeps his nuts." remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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"Chris" wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Chris, I spoke to one of their reps at the SFGP and he said that the manufacturing is now done in Taiwan. -- tanx, Howard "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody where he keeps his nuts." remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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Stewart Fleming wrote: Chris wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Lots of carbon shops in Taiwan. Lots of steel shops in Taiwan. Darnit,lots of semiconductor shops in Taiwan. There will soon be lots of semiconductor shops in mainland China, too. -- tanx, Howard "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody where he keeps his nuts." remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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Stewart Fleming wrote: Chris wrote: "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. Lots of carbon shops in Taiwan. Lots of steel shops in Taiwan. Darnit,lots of semiconductor shops in Taiwan. There will soon be lots of semiconductor shops in mainland China, too. -- tanx, Howard "It looks like the squirrel's been showing everybody where he keeps his nuts." remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok? |
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Dude,
While thumbing through the Taiwan Export catalog (one of my colleagues imports from there) one of the suppliers uses the Kestrel as their marketing piece. Kestrel, Airborne, and about a dozen other names (Habanero is a $200.00 frame marked up to $700 for your pleasure) are all made in Taiwan and China. "Chris" wrote in message . .. "JayofMontreal" wrote in message ... And where do you think Kestrel frames are made???? Wake up -- most stuff is made in China and Taiwain. Watsonville California up until recently. They may still be made there, I just don't know for certain. "Alex Rodriguez" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Peter" wrote in message .com... Well scott are good bikes so i recommend that you buy that one, but the kestrel i have never heard of so do some further research before you decide to buy it. Kestrel has been around building quality carbon frames for many years. The Scott CR1 is an awesome frame, but may cross the line into the "stupid light" category. I've seen it. I have a friend who is riding one now. He loves it. But I wonder how well it's going to hold up. The tubes are absolutely whisper thin and word is they can easily be destroyed by mistake in a shop stand. I'm not sure I'd want to entrust my welfare to a frame that's quite so fragile. Many frames nowadays are super thin and a ham fisted wrench could crush them. That is why most shops will not clamp on a frame tube. They clamp on the seat post. I would buy from Kestrel because they have a long track record and make their own frames. Some how I think Scott is a "ship the design specs off to China to see who can make it the cheapest" company ----------------- Alex --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/3/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.788 / Virus Database: 533 - Release Date: 11/2/2004 |
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