NGM is: Real Names vs. User Names

"Eugene Miya" wrote in message
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Alt. newsgroup restored.

So your deduction of more threads is wrong.

In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
It is my impression that text only documents take up hardly any space at
all.

This is true only in context.

A groups and R groups are admined differently.

What is an A group (alternate?) and what is an R group (recreation?)?

You got those right.

How do they differ from one another?

The alt.* hierarchy of groups were set up by John Gilmore (chanced to
see him on Friday evening) as a more loosely administered set of news
groups than the more main stream big-7/8. Admining by hierarchy is
easier than individual group (although this is done in a few cases).

If an ISP does not want to carry the alt.* groups or expire articles at
a shorter frequency that is possible.

Cross posting between hierarchies means that software has to decide
whether big-8 or alt.* expiration policies hold. Most take a
conservative approach and keep the big-8 groups longer.

This is also why full feeds between ISPs are highly coveted.

What is "admined"? I am using the OE
Short for administered.
newsreader. How does what you say impact on that?

Reader clients like OE are only a problem for posting or reading users.
Like bad dogs and children, in the wrong hands, they are problems.

Thanks for all the useful information. I never knew any of that. What I know
about computers and the Internet you could put in a thimble with room to
spare.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Edward Dolan" writes:

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


What's all this "Great" business? And why "aka" as the the Perpetual
Sorrows? Am I missing something here?

In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
Alt. newsgroup restored.

What ever.

What is "admined"? I am using the OE
Short for administered.
newsreader. How does what you say impact on that?

Reader clients like OE are only a problem for posting or reading users.
Like bad dogs and children, in the wrong hands, they are problems.

Thanks for all the useful information. I never knew any of that. What I know
about computers and the Internet you could put in a thimble with room to
spare.

And you are proud of that?

Learn some stuff about the net. Get over into other groups and web sites.
Do something more than posting an opinion or lurking.

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"Eugene Miya" wrote in message
news:446a6508$1@darkstar...
In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
Alt. newsgroup restored.

What ever.

Why do you keep horsing around editing the newsgroups?

What is "admined"? I am using the OE
Short for administered.
newsreader. How does what you say impact on that?

Reader clients like OE are only a problem for posting or reading users.
Like bad dogs and children, in the wrong hands, they are problems.

Thanks for all the useful information. I never knew any of that. What I
know
about computers and the Internet you could put in a thimble with room to
spare.

And you are proud of that?

Learn some stuff about the net. Get over into other groups and web sites.
Do something more than posting an opinion or lurking.

I do not give a damn about computers, the Internet and most especially
newsgroups, other than having some fun with all three. I do not do much
lurking anymore since I have discovered that all newsgroups are by and for
idiots, without any exceptions whatsoever. How could it be otherwise when
the groups are not moderated.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Hadron Quark" wrote in message
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"Edward Dolan" writes:

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota


What's all this "Great" business? And why "aka" as the the Perpetual
Sorrows? Am I missing something here?

My signature developed over time mostly as a result of how I viewed others'
signatures, especially one idiot who goes by the name of Peter Clinch from
Scotland. He absolutely has the dumbest signature I have ever encountered.

But my signature is also a clue as to how I view others on the newsgroups. I
am Great and they are not and I am Saintly and they are not. Anyone who is
not in a state of perpetual sorrow at the miserable kind of world we are
living in is beyond the pale. Earth ... abandon all hope ye who enter here!
There, now you are not missing anything anymore!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:

I do not do much
lurking anymore since I have discovered that all newsgroups are by and for
idiots, without any exceptions whatsoever.

LOL!

I see you fit right in eh.

Mike

In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
Why do you keep horsing around editing the newsgroups?

Because that's why we implemented the Followup-To: line in headers.

You can similarly ask you you don't?
You can similarly ask why you attribute an entire article than the
relevant bits (a subject decision). The usual argument is for full context.
That's silly in the extreme case of "Me, too" posts.

It's a job.


I do not give a damn about computers, the Internet and most especially
newsgroups, other than having some fun with all three. I do not do much
Then what are you doing here?
lurking anymore since I have discovered that all newsgroups are by and for
idiots, without any exceptions whatsoever. How could it be otherwise when
like yourself?
the groups are not moderated.

The same question is asked not only of news groups but blogs, Wikis, and
other internet protocols.
1) People are lazy, even vandals. 2) The number of non-vandals appears
to exceed vandals. 3) Some lazy people are lazy in different ways.
I could go on.

If you don't really give a damn, and I know many people who don't,
you are really wasting your time here.

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In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Hadron Quark" wrote in message
...
"Edward Dolan" writes:
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

What's all this "Great" business? And why "aka" as the the Perpetual
Sorrows? Am I missing something here?

My signature developed over time mostly as a result of how I viewed others'
signatures, especially one idiot who goes by the name of Peter Clinch from
Scotland. He absolutely has the dumbest signature I have ever encountered.

I like Peter's posting.
Chalk one minus point.

Signatures here developed due to early network unreliabilities.

Done well they can be very powerful; knowing this from personal experience.


But my signature is also a clue as to how I view others on the newsgroups. I
am Great and they are not and I am Saintly and they are not. Anyone who is
not in a state of perpetual sorrow at the miserable kind of world we are
living in is beyond the pale. Earth ... abandon all hope ye who enter here!
There, now you are not missing anything anymore!

I've seen no greatness nor saintliness. You could be.
I have been somewhat lucky/fortunate to have encountered a few pretty
good brains of our age. I will wait over time for you to demonstrate it.

The greatest people on the net that I know tend to have a minimum of 2
secretaries (I have 0), and they don't have time to post. Some did
decades ago when they were grad students or asst. profs. or other lower
position. They have people read for them if and where it matters.

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"Eugene Miya" wrote in message
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In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
"Hadron Quark" wrote in message
...
"Edward Dolan" writes:
Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

What's all this "Great" business? And why "aka" as the the Perpetual
Sorrows? Am I missing something here?

My signature developed over time mostly as a result of how I viewed
others'
signatures, especially one idiot who goes by the name of Peter Clinch from
Scotland. He absolutely has the dumbest signature I have ever encountered.

I like Peter's posting.
Chalk one minus point.

Signatures here developed due to early network unreliabilities.

Done well they can be very powerful; knowing this from personal
experience.

His signature might be appropriate if he were involved in business
transactions or his own blog on a website, but on newsgroups related to
cycling it has no place at all. He is a jerk plain and simple. No one else
does his kind of signature. By the way, why don't you have some kind of
signature? False modesty is a hundred times worse than false arrogance.

But my signature is also a clue as to how I view others on the newsgroups.
I
am Great and they are not and I am Saintly and they are not. Anyone who
is
not in a state of perpetual sorrow at the miserable kind of world we are
living in is beyond the pale. Earth ... abandon all hope ye who enter
here!
There, now you are not missing anything anymore!

I've seen no greatness nor saintliness. You could be.
I have been somewhat lucky/fortunate to have encountered a few pretty
good brains of our age. I will wait over time for you to demonstrate it.

There are no brains on Usenet. You are a dope for thinking that there are.

The greatest people on the net that I know tend to have a minimum of 2
secretaries (I have 0), and they don't have time to post. Some did
decades ago when they were grad students or asst. profs. or other lower
position. They have people read for them if and where it matters.

I do not have the foggiest idea what Usenet was like ages ago. All I know
now is that it is for idiots exclusively. What do secretaries have to do
with anything.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Eugene Miya" wrote in message
news:446b8881$1@darkstar...
In article ,
Edward Dolan wrote:
Why do you keep horsing around editing the newsgroups?

Because that's why we implemented the Followup-To: line in headers.

I do not see any follow-ups on my newsreader. But in any event, fool around
with your own original messages. I do not like others fooling around with my
original messages. All you are really doing is screwing up the thread for
many on other newsgroups. No one will go to another group to read a
follow-up.

You can similarly ask you you don't?

Eugene, there is something wrong with the way your brain works. The above
sentence does not make any sense to me. It is grammatically a mess.

You can similarly ask why you attribute an entire article than the
relevant bits (a subject decision). The usual argument is for full
context.
That's silly in the extreme case of "Me, too" posts.

I agree, but I do not like those who edit a post to make themselves look
good at the expense of the other person. Way too many do that. It shows they
do not have any confidence in their ability to handle a complete message.

It's a job.

I do not think you would be a good moderator at all because there is
something wrong with way your brain works.

I do not give a damn about computers, the Internet and most especially
newsgroups, other than having some fun with all three. I do not do much
Then what are you doing here?
lurking anymore since I have discovered that all newsgroups are by and for
idiots, without any exceptions whatsoever. How could it be otherwise when
like yourself?
the groups are not moderated.

Your freaking comments should have followed my complete statement. God, what
a dunce! You are not only dumb, but you are incurably lazy.

The same question is asked not only of news groups but blogs, Wikis, and
other internet protocols.
1) People are lazy, even vandals. 2) The number of non-vandals appears
to exceed vandals. 3) Some lazy people are lazy in different ways.
I could go on.

Just quit taking shortcuts with me. I expect you to be literate at all
times, even though you are a scientist.

If you don't really give a damn, and I know many people who don't,
you are really wasting your time here.

YES! Of course I am wasting my time! And you aren't?

Anyone who is posting to Usenet is wasting his time. I do it for the fun and
games. Why the hell do you do it?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota