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Old July 27th 07, 03:23 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...-23218,00.html

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LeMond said: "If Rasmussen got caught, and if you want to be equal, you have
to implicate other riders, too.

"You have a lot of riders against whom there's a lot of evidence and
relations to certain doctors. Those riders are getting away with it.
"Alberto Contador and Rasmussen are at 60kgs each and both are climbing as
fast as Pantani did. That's a red flag right there," he said in a reference
to the late Italian Marco Pantani, a superb climber who won both the Tour de
France and Giro d'Italia in 1998.

"Contador has been involved in 'Operation Puerto'," he added, citing the
doping scandal that rocked Spain.

"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."

LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it didn't
name a champion this year.

"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.
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Old July 27th 07, 03:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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LeMond said: "If Rasmussen got caught, and if you want to be equal, you
have
to implicate other riders, too.

"You have a lot of riders against whom there's a lot of evidence and
relations to certain doctors. Those riders are getting away with it.
"Alberto Contador and Rasmussen are at 60kgs each and both are climbing as
fast as Pantani did. That's a red flag right there," he said in a

reference
to the late Italian Marco Pantani, a superb climber who won both the Tour

de
France and Giro d'Italia in 1998.

"Contador has been involved in 'Operation Puerto'," he added, citing the
doping scandal that rocked Spain.

"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."

LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it

didn't
name a champion this year.

"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.
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I would name Greg LeMond as the virtual champion of 2007 Tour.


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Old July 27th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."


"The fact that I am pointing my finger directly at Contador should in
no way be construed as me pointing fingers at Contador."

Lemond is the fingering champion, for sure.

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Old July 27th 07, 07:24 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 26, 7:23 pm, "JC" wrote:

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LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it didn't
name a champion this year.

"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.





That jackass seriously needs to shut up.

After he wasn't able to win anymore, he'd like it better if no one
else could either.

So lame. I have nothing but contempt for him.


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Old July 27th 07, 10:12 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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JC wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...-23218,00.html


-------
LeMond said: "If Rasmussen got caught, and if you want to be equal, you have
to implicate other riders, too.


"You have a lot of riders against whom there's a lot of evidence and
relations to certain doctors. Those riders are getting away with it.
"Alberto Contador and Rasmussen are at 60kgs each and both are climbing as
fast as Pantani did. That's a red flag right there," he said in a reference
to the late Italian Marco Pantani, a superb climber who won both the Tour de
France and Giro d'Italia in 1998.


"Contador has been involved in 'Operation Puerto'," he added, citing the
doping scandal that rocked Spain.


"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."


LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it didn't
name a champion this year.


"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.
--------


My respect for Lemond is the uttermost. If cycling really want's to
be a clean sport it needs to start taking the few people telling the
truth seriously, insted of dismissing their motives. Jachkse, Simioni
and Mazano's are the only heros.

We still have an all dirty podium:

Evans and Leipheimer are clients of Dr. Ferari, Contardor is deeply
involved with operation puerto and rumord to still have Manolo Saiz
as his personal adviser.

Rasmussen is out because of a case of extremely bad press handling.

Acording to CSC's pressagent, Brian Nygaard, Rabobanks pressagent
Jacob Bergman has done just about everything wrong. Nyggard said that
he would have called an pressconference before the tour when Michael
Rasmussen got his 2nd warnming from the UCI and told the press about
the warnings and the exclusion from the dansih national team.
After that there wouldn't have been a case. I'd guess a team like
Discovery would have handled it simmilar to what Nygaard's suggesting
and steared clear.

Nygaard says that he has even tried counceling Jacob Bergsma durring
the last two weeks but Bergman hasn't been open to suggestions.

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Old July 27th 07, 01:38 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 27, 5:12 am, Morten Reippuert wrote:
JC wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...-23218,00.html
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LeMond said: "If Rasmussen got caught, and if you want to be equal, you have
to implicate other riders, too.
"You have a lot of riders against whom there's a lot of evidence and
relations to certain doctors. Those riders are getting away with it.
"Alberto Contador and Rasmussen are at 60kgs each and both are climbing as
fast as Pantani did. That's a red flag right there," he said in a reference
to the late Italian Marco Pantani, a superb climber who won both the Tour de
France and Giro d'Italia in 1998.
"Contador has been involved in 'Operation Puerto'," he added, citing the
doping scandal that rocked Spain.
"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."
LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it didn't
name a champion this year.
"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.
--------


My respect for Lemond is the uttermost. If cycling really want's to
be a clean sport it needs to start taking the few people telling the
truth seriously, insted of dismissing their motives. Jachkse, Simioni
and Mazano's are the only heros.

We still have an all dirty podium:

Evans and Leipheimer are clients of Dr. Ferari, Contardor is deeply
involved with operation puerto and rumord to still have Manolo Saiz
as his personal adviser.

Rasmussen is out because of a case of extremely bad press handling.

Acording to CSC's pressagent, Brian Nygaard, Rabobanks pressagent
Jacob Bergman has done just about everything wrong. Nyggard said that
he would have called an pressconference before the tour when Michael
Rasmussen got his 2nd warnming from the UCI and told the press about
the warnings and the exclusion from the dansih national team.
After that there wouldn't have been a case. I'd guess a team like
Discovery would have handled it simmilar to what Nygaard's suggesting
and steared clear.

Nygaard says that he has even tried counceling Jacob Bergsma durring
the last two weeks but Bergman hasn't been open to suggestions.

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Well your aproach would validate Greg because they would all be banned
for life, except Greg, 'cause he's the only one who didn't cheat, and
he'd be the virtual winner of everything, or there would be no
winners, and no races either.
That's a perfect solution.
Next witch to the stake please!
Bill C

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Old July 27th 07, 01:40 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article ,
Morten Reippuert wrote:

Evans and Leipheimer are clients of Dr. Ferari


Who says Evans is?

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Old July 27th 07, 02:02 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Morten Reippuert Knudsen wrote:
Acording to CSC's pressagent, Brian Nygaard, Rabobanks pressagent
Jacob Bergman has done just about everything wrong. Nyggard said that
he would have called an pressconference before the tour when Michael
Rasmussen got his 2nd warnming from the UCI and told the press about
the warnings and the exclusion from the dansih national team.
After that there wouldn't have been a case. I'd guess a team like
Discovery would have handled it simmilar to what Nygaard's suggesting
and steared clear.


If they had done that then Rasmussen never would have started. In
an era where riders are banned on suspicion that isn't a viable
strategy.

Bob Schwartz
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Old July 27th 07, 02:08 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Morten Reippuert Knudsen
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Bill C wrote:

Well your aproach would validate Greg because they would all be banned
for life, except Greg, 'cause he's the only one who didn't cheat, and
he'd be the virtual winner of everything, or there would be no
winners, and no races either.
That's a perfect solution.
Next witch to the stake please!


What do you think about Evans and Leipheimer being clients of Dr.
Michele Ferrari?


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Old July 27th 07, 02:21 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 27, 8:38 am, Bill C wrote:
On Jul 27, 5:12 am, Morten Reippuert wrote:





JC wrote:
http://www.foxsports.com.au/story/0,...-23218,00.html
-------
LeMond said: "If Rasmussen got caught, and if you want to be equal, you have
to implicate other riders, too.
"You have a lot of riders against whom there's a lot of evidence and
relations to certain doctors. Those riders are getting away with it.
"Alberto Contador and Rasmussen are at 60kgs each and both are climbing as
fast as Pantani did. That's a red flag right there," he said in a reference
to the late Italian Marco Pantani, a superb climber who won both the Tour de
France and Giro d'Italia in 1998.
"Contador has been involved in 'Operation Puerto'," he added, citing the
doping scandal that rocked Spain.
"I'm not pointing fingers at Contador. I'm just saying that if you point
fingers at Rasmussen, you have to look at the riders next to him."
LeMond said he thinks the Tour de France would be better served if it didn't
name a champion this year.
"I would prefer to see a non-Tour de France winner," he said.
--------


My respect for Lemond is the uttermost. If cycling really want's to
be a clean sport it needs to start taking the few people telling the
truth seriously, insted of dismissing their motives. Jachkse, Simioni
and Mazano's are the only heros.


We still have an all dirty podium:


Evans and Leipheimer are clients of Dr. Ferari, Contardor is deeply
involved with operation puerto and rumord to still have Manolo Saiz
as his personal adviser.


Rasmussen is out because of a case of extremely bad press handling.


Acording to CSC's pressagent, Brian Nygaard, Rabobanks pressagent
Jacob Bergman has done just about everything wrong. Nyggard said that
he would have called an pressconference before the tour when Michael
Rasmussen got his 2nd warnming from the UCI and told the press about
the warnings and the exclusion from the dansih national team.
After that there wouldn't have been a case. I'd guess a team like
Discovery would have handled it simmilar to what Nygaard's suggesting
and steared clear.


Nygaard says that he has even tried counceling Jacob Bergsma durring
the last two weeks but Bergman hasn't been open to suggestions.


--
Morten Reippuert Knudsen :-) http://blog.reippuert.dk


Merlin Works CR-3/2.5 & Campagnolo Chorus 2007.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Well your aproach would validate Greg because they would all be banned
for life, except Greg, 'cause he's the only one who didn't cheat, and
he'd be the virtual winner of everything, or there would be no
winners, and no races either.
That's a perfect solution.
Next witch to the stake please!
Bill C- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Bill

You are the Epitomy of the cycling enthusiast in denial.

You can see smoke, feel the heat, smell the burning, see the damage,
but you just cant admit there is a fire in the house because the
flames arn't visible from the outside.


 




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