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Vuelta Stage 6, ITT
Millar loses, current GC leader Isidro Nozal throws DOWN!
17:11 CEST Nozal is in the final throes of this time trial now, and he has really scored a big blow. He will win the time trial and increases his lead on GC, but there is still a lot of racing to come. His finishing time is 53'34, 1'20 faster than Millar! He rode the final km in 1'05, sprinting out of the last corner to the line. He has a 2 minute plus lead over Igor Gonzalez on GC. http://live.cyclingnews.com/vuelta03/?id=livecomp |
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"Tech439 {Chet}" a écrit dans le message news:
... Millar loses, current GC leader Isidro Nozal throws DOWN! 17:11 CEST Nozal is in the final throes of this time trial now, and he has really scored a big blow. He will win the time trial and increases his lead on GC, but there is still a lot of racing to come. His finishing time is 53'34, 1'20 faster than Millar! He rode the final km in 1'05, sprinting out of the last corner to the line. He has a 2 minute plus lead over Igor Gonzalez on GC. So with Heras almost two minutes back of Beltran, how does Postal decide who to ride for and protect? Is 2 minutes enough to make Beltran the guy, or do they play it day by day for now, depending on who has the legs? General classification after stage 6 1 Isidro Nozal (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 2 Igor Gonzalez De Galdeano (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 2.27 3 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 2.42 4 Klaus Möller (Den) Milaneza-MSS 4.16 5 Roberto Heras (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 4.35 |
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"trg" wrote in message ... "Tech439 {Chet}" a écrit dans le message news: ... Millar loses, current GC leader Isidro Nozal throws DOWN! 17:11 CEST Nozal is in the final throes of this time trial now, and he has really scored a big blow. He will win the time trial and increases his lead on GC, but there is still a lot of racing to come. His finishing time is 53'34, 1'20 faster than Millar! He rode the final km in 1'05, sprinting out of the last corner to the line. He has a 2 minute plus lead over Igor Gonzalez on GC. So with Heras almost two minutes back of Beltran, how does Postal decide who to ride for and protect? Is 2 minutes enough to make Beltran the guy, or do they play it day by day for now, depending on who has the legs? That's simple, protect both of them and let both of them ride for themselves. |
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"trg" wrote So with Heras almost two minutes back of Beltran, how does Postal decide who to ride for and protect? Is 2 minutes enough to make Beltran the guy, or do they play it day by day for now, depending on who has the legs? In 95 % of such cases The Mountains decide. |
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"Bart" a écrit dans le message de
... "trg" wrote So with Heras almost two minutes back of Beltran, how does Postal decide who to ride for and protect? Is 2 minutes enough to make Beltran the guy, or do they play it day by day for now, depending on who has the legs? In 95 % of such cases The Mountains decide. So if Postal is down to 3 in the lead group- Heras, Beltran and Rubiera, do all three take turns in front, making both team "leaders" expend energy? When Chechu gets dropped, do you think Heras and Beltran will decide between them who is stronger that day and the other will become the last "booster stage"? Manolo Saiz was criticized by many for not deciding on Igor GdG or Beloki in the 2002 tour and planning his tactics accordingly. The sooner this decision is made, the better if will be for the chance for a postie to take yellow. Of course ONCE is in the same position. And Saiz is not as good a tactician as Bruneel. I don't believe that Postal had a designated leader at the start of the race. Comments made by the domestiques pre-race talked about supporting Heras, Beltran, Rubiera and Landis, but at what point does Bruneel make the decision to put his eggs in one basket? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 |
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"Bart" a écrit dans le message de
... "trg" wrote Manolo Saiz was criticized by many for not deciding on Igor GdG or Beloki in the 2002 tour and planning his tactics accordingly. The sooner this decision is made, the better if will be for the chance for a postie to take yellow. Why decide before they have seen a mountain? Agreed, we have to at least see who has their mountain legs on. But as a matter of strategy, what if they are about equal in the next stage? And the stage after that? Winning a 3 week tour is all about saving energy. If you tire out two riders trying to see which one might be slightly stronger, rather than conserving one as much as possible, that could be a fatal mistake. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.516 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 01/09/2003 |
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trg wrote:
Agreed, we have to at least see who has their mountain legs on. But as a matter of strategy, what if they are about equal in the next stage? And the stage after that? Winning a 3 week tour is all about saving energy. If you tire out two riders trying to see which one might be slightly stronger, rather than conserving one as much as possible, that could be a fatal mistake. If they are equal in the mountains then the decision is easy. Beltran leads. He's ahead on time and a much better time trialist. Last year Postal delivered Heras to the final TT with a lead of over a minute. He coughed up 3:22 at the end. He needs to be a lot better than Beltran in the mountains. If they're even then then decision is easy. Bob Schwartz |
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Don't you understand that they just nailed ONCE with their own
strategy? "trg" wrote in message ... "Tech439 {Chet}" a écrit dans le message news: ... Millar loses, current GC leader Isidro Nozal throws DOWN! 17:11 CEST Nozal is in the final throes of this time trial now, and he has really scored a big blow. He will win the time trial and increases his lead on GC, but there is still a lot of racing to come. His finishing time is 53'34, 1'20 faster than Millar! He rode the final km in 1'05, sprinting out of the last corner to the line. He has a 2 minute plus lead over Igor Gonzalez on GC. So with Heras almost two minutes back of Beltran, how does Postal decide who to ride for and protect? Is 2 minutes enough to make Beltran the guy, or do they play it day by day for now, depending on who has the legs? General classification after stage 6 1 Isidro Nozal (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 2 Igor Gonzalez De Galdeano (Spa) O.N.C.E.-Eroski 2.27 3 Manuel Beltran (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 2.42 4 Klaus Möller (Den) Milaneza-MSS 4.16 5 Roberto Heras (Spa) US Postal-Berry Floor 4.35 |
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Listening to the remarks from the team you wouldn't know who is the team
leader. They always talk about supporting Heras and Beltran, and sometimes Rubiera and Landis. But when the team for the Vuelta was announced, there wasn't a question. This is a quote from Bruyneel- "The team will be led by Roberto, who deserves to be the leader of our team at the Vuelta," said Johan Bruyneel, the team's director sportif. "I think our team is probably the strongest we have ever sent to the Vuelta in our history. Roberto is fully recovered from the Tour de France and said he is ready to go for it." "Bruyneel added the team will have great support for Heras in the mountain stages in Rubiera, Landis and Beltran along with added strength on the flats with the addition of Hincapie to ride alongside White, Van Heeswijk, Barry and Joachim. " This could be a tactic of Bruyneel. Play it close to the chest. Maybe Heras is the guy (when he's on form he's the best pure climber on the team, if not the world), but they want to make ONCE cover both of them. That would be classic Bruyneel. Anyway, we should see soon. "Bob Schwartz" a écrit dans le message news: ... trg wrote: Agreed, we have to at least see who has their mountain legs on. But as a matter of strategy, what if they are about equal in the next stage? And the stage after that? Winning a 3 week tour is all about saving energy. If you tire out two riders trying to see which one might be slightly stronger, rather than conserving one as much as possible, that could be a fatal mistake. If they are equal in the mountains then the decision is easy. Beltran leads. He's ahead on time and a much better time trialist. Last year Postal delivered Heras to the final TT with a lead of over a minute. He coughed up 3:22 at the end. He needs to be a lot better than Beltran in the mountains. If they're even then then decision is easy. Bob Schwartz |
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"trg" wrote in message This could be a tactic of Bruyneel. Play it close to the chest. Maybe Heras is the guy (when he's on form he's the best pure climber on the team, if not the world), but they want to make ONCE cover both of them. That would be classic Bruyneel. How is this "classic Bruyneel"? It certainly is not. |
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