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Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night.
The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? |
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On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote:
Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Which of their three lubes did you use? http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Which of their three lubes did you use? http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often. You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant on your fingers. |
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On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. The run-off appears to be mostly the carrier. But when I say I put a drop on each link I really mean a "drop". |
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On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Which of their three lubes did you use? http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often. You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant on your fingers. I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. Maybe I should try that Gold stuff. It seems to contain wax just like Epic Ride. Possibly performance would be the same but one would only know after trying. Entered into my wiki file but I still have a large bottle of White Lightning to use up. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2017-06-18 08:12, wrote:
On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 1:15:35 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 6/17/2017 2:34 PM, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Just a very tiny bit, about as much as if a kid with a crayon drew the tooth outline just inboard of the actual teeth. If I really want to clean the bike, I wipe that off with a dry rag. But I don't clean or polish my bikes very often. Fortunately, I don't need to. They look clean enough from 10 feet away, but they'll never win a concours d'elegance. For example, I don't own a bike that doesn't have nicks and scratches in the paint. We did a club ride on our 39-year-old tandem today. One friend said "The paint looks pretty good for 39 years old." A compliment, but certainly not an unqualified one. (My wife said "Notice that most of the nicks and scratches are up where he sits?") -- - Frank Krygowski My bikes are dirty until just after their yearly cleaning. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqVoZcf3fO0 :-) I don't think I ever cleaned my MTB or my road bike in the last three years (that's when I bought the current MTB). Actually, I can't remember ever cleaning the road bike since purchase in 1982 except before shipping to the US (required by law, ag inspection). This strategy greatly reduces the chance of theft. On the underside of the downtubes the color of the frame can only be discerned after a long ride through driving rain. That's the only washing the bikes get. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote: On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Which of their three lubes did you use? http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often. You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant on your fingers. I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 2017-06-18 09:45, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 6/18/2017 12:24 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-18 08:16, wrote: On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 12:14:28 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2017-06-17 11:34, wrote: Frank, On my Eddy Merckx I was using an old chain so I would lube it with Rock n Roll and let it dry over-night. The chain would stay relatively clean though it did deposit a layer of something on the rear derailleur pulleys that was a real pain in the butt to get off. When you're using your wax technique do you find any build-up on the cogs, rings and pulleys? Which of their three lubes did you use? http://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews...gold-lubricant Is it better than White Lightning? The process seems quite wasteful, dripping on a lot and then wiping away the run-off. I've had the pulley gunk with any lube so far, whether chainsaw oil, motor oil or some fancy bike product. I take a knife, hold the blade against the pulley, turn the crank backwards ... splat ... a clump falls onto the work bench. When cleaning the MTB chain before a re-lube I collect a total of about one shotglass full of gunk from the pulleys, cogs and chain. Dirt, clay, sap, caked animal poop, "star thistle mousse", and so on. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ Rock n Roll Gold. Like I say, I spot each link and let it dry over night and the chain has yet to squeak. And that chain which I just replaced was pretty old. My friend used it at least for a year, and he was putting in 6,000 mile years. But he squirts lube on it before every ride I believe. And he cleans the chain religiously very often. You can always touch his chain and only get a little clean lubricant on your fingers. I am probably more like your friend, babying chains a lot. I apply lube to each link using a Q-Tip. White Lightning Epic Ride gets shaken for a good mix, then I squirt the roughly needed quantity into an old shotglass and dab it on. After a thorough cleaning, of course. How long does that take you? The cleaning? Depends on where I was riding. A few minutes for the road bike yesterday. My road bike has a good dose of dirt trail exposure. On the MTB this can easily consume 15mins or more because there often is "weed parfait" and other nasty stuff caked into everything. Where you need scraping and poking tools. Sometimes solvent if vegetation with lots of sap got sucked in. The actual lube job took less than a minute. Then ... I discovered the front had a slow flat and there went the next half hour because that still has a Gatorskin on it. This time wasn't wasted though because I started the wood fire for cooking during that time and that must be watched for safety. Filet mignon over a hot Manzanita can't be beat. Today it's going to be ribs, same procedure but sans the flat fix. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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