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Four years for killer driver on a mobile.
Squashme wrote:
On 29 Feb, 17:48, JNugent wrote: spindrift wrote: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/h...re/7270751.stm Gratuitous insertion of helmet comment obligatory. I never, ever understand how driving bans run concurrent with a custodial sentence- YOU CAN'T DRIVE IN PRISON!!! A motorist who was texting on her mobile phone ... ... has been sentenced to four years in prison. ... The 25-year-old from Hythe, Hampshire, was banned from driving for five years. Relax. Don't burst a blood vessel. She'll be out of prison before the driving ban is up and so will have to serve some of it. Prisoners rarely serve the whole sentence. Driving bans are always served in full. "She'll be out of prison before the driving ban is up and so will have to serve some of it." "Driving bans are always served in full." Ummmm. Serve some of it, or all of it? All of it. You can rest assured that she will not be driving whilst locked up. |
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calum wrote:
"JNugent" wrote in message Driving bans are always served in full. Wrong. You can ask the court to reduce the period of your disqualification after serving.... Oh, OK.... if you must... Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts. Happy? |
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Rob Morley wrote:
Sir Jeremy says... The helmet point is debatable, but he certainly would be alive today if he hadn't ridden through the red light If he hadn't run the light she might have - there's nothing certain about it. It wouldn't matter (to him) if she had "run a red light" (she didn't, as far as any of us know). That's because they were travelling towards a common point from two different directions. He'd have been safe if he'd stopped for the red light as he was obliged to. But of course, he knew better - or thought he did. |
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"Sir Jeremy" wrote
The helmet point is debatable, but he certainly would be alive today if he hadn't ridden through the red light He just made a judgement call that turned bad on himself. If his death serves a purpose it is that bad driving can cause harm to others.. |
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DavidR wrote:
"Sir Jeremy" wrote The helmet point is debatable, but he certainly would be alive today if he hadn't ridden through the red light He just made a judgement call that turned bad on himself. If his death serves a purpose it is that bad driving can cause harm to others.. That is a one-sided view: his death could be used to suggest also that bad cycling can harm bad cyclists. Intelligent readers will note the use of the conditional in the previous sentence. I am /not/ suggesting that the late cyclist was a bad one as I haven't seen enough of the evidence to explain why he is claimed to have run a red light. Cheers, Luke -- Red Rose Ramblings, the diary of an Essex boy in exile in Lancashire http://www.shrimper.org.uk |
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"JNugent" wrote in message ... Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts. Happy? Please don't take it personally but I disagree with that too; any person who has driven while disqualified has not served his driving ban "in full as directed by the courts". Calum |
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calum wrote:
"JNugent" wrote: Driving bans are always served in full as directed by the courts. Happy? Please don't take it personally but I disagree with that too; any person who has driven while disqualified has not served his driving ban "in full as directed by the courts". No, that's not right. Being banned from driving simply means that one is not licensed to drive on the highway (for a time) and is liable to punishment simply for doing so. Someone like me (or, I suspect, you) who has not been banned from driving is at no such risk. Driving on a ban is not some sort of get out of jail free card and doesn't mean that the ban has been lifted. The driver is still banned and still very much at risk of retribution*. You might as well say (actually, with more justification) that a prisoner released for the day to attend his mother's funeral is not a prisoner. [* Ever wondered how, given that being stopped by the police is such a rarity, such a large proportion of banned drivers who do drive are caught?] [Sorry - I missed this when first posted.] |
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On Mar 14, 6:11*pm, JNugent wrote:
No, that's not right. Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is* "serving his ban in full as directed by the courts." Calum |
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"calum" wrote in message ... On Mar 14, 6:11 pm, JNugent wrote: No, that's not right. Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is* "serving his ban in full as directed by the courts." Calum This is getting a bit semantic, but as being banned is essentially a passive thing you don't really _serve_ it in the same way as you serve a sentence - you're not required to _do_ anything or _be_ anywhere, merely not to drive. The offence you commit if you drive while banned is driving while banned, not 'breaking the ban'.So you can't serve a ban but you can be in breach of it. |
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calum wrote:
On Mar 14, 6:11 pm, JNugent wrote: No, that's not right. Are you saying that a person who drives while disqualified *is* "serving his ban in full as directed by the courts." Do you want to provide a little context? |
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