ARBR - RIP

Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Feb 19, 4:14 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
(who?) anonymously snipes:
[...]
As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.
Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).
[...]

Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism. Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

Ricky is right and Sherman is wrong, but that is the way it always go with
liberal ideologues like him.

Hey Ed, I fixed the quotation hierarchy, since your Windows Mail fouled
it up yet again.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Edward Dolan wrote:
...
Mr. Sherman's education stops with the liberal blogs. He needs to read a
book recently published.

LIBERAL FASCISM
The Secret History of the American Left From Mussolini to the Politics of
Meaning.

By Jonah Goldberg.

487 pp. Doubleday. $27.95.

Not the Jonah Goldberg from Toronto who looked like Jerry Garcia and
rode an electric assist trike like a maniac in traffic, I see. I wonder
what he is up to?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

(who?) anonymously snipes:
On Feb 19, 4:14 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
(who?) anonymously snipes:

On Feb 15, 12:10 am, Simon Brooke wrote:
Edward Dolan wrote:
Only the Great Ed Doan and his weasel of a stalker Jim McNamara have been
on ARBR for the past week with a chirp or two from the peanut gallery,
i.e., Tom Sherman. This newsgroup is now dead as a door nail.
As a general rule I don't respond to trolls, but this is hypocrisy gone too
far. Yes, you - you personally, none other - have destroyed a Usenet
resource that was useful to other people. And you have done so in the
comfortable knowledge that none of the people who have been harmed by your
actions are near enough to you to smack you in the face as you deserve. I
hope you feel proud.
--
(Simon Brooke)http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
;; Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they
;; do it from religious conviction." - Pascal
The UseNet is a unmoderated group list. It assumes that all
participants will stay on subject. In the case of ARBR, it is a
discussion of recumbents, not politics, religion, or alternative life
styles. Unlike the bumper of your car or the privacy of your home ,
it's not a place to express your opinions except those concerning
recumbents. I understand that recumbents were once coveted by the
counter-culture and for old time sake it may be cool to throw in a
comment about your misadventures of civil disobedience during a recent
Critical Mass, but your comments and opinions will be weighed.
As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.
Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).

Simon- You preach, yet you are a moral deginerate! Why don't you be
good Englishman and at least change your offending sig?
Spel chequer (sic)?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful- Hide quoted text -

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Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party.

Please familiarize yourself with the concept of false advertising. The
National Socialist German Workers Party was funded by rich
industrialists such as Fritz Thyssen [1]. Hitler had the socialist
elements of the SA purged (i.e. murdered), suppressed the trade unions
and crushed workers rights.

Lenin and Stalin were both communist, the purest form of socialism.

Oh, male bovine excrement. The only thing communist about the USSR was
the name. One group of oligarchs was replaced with another.

Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

Please stop listening to right-wing pundits who lie about history, or
whatever source of misinformation you are using.

[1] A business associate of Prescott Bush.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia

"To diverge from the above, one should not participate
in off-topic Usenet discussions on political topics
unless one is willing to deal with the resulting
ugliness. In my case I have been called among other
things a Communist, Al Qaeda supporter, Saddam Hussein
supporter, Kim Il Jung supporter, an anti-Semite, a
terrorist sympathizer, a rectal opening, anti-American,
an extremist wacko nut, a god dammed liberal, a piece
of excrement, and an apologist for murder: this list is
by no means exhaustive."

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
...
Mr. Sherman's education stops with the liberal blogs. He needs to read a
book recently published.

LIBERAL FASCISM
The Secret History of the American Left From Mussolini to the Politics of
Meaning.

By Jonah Goldberg.

487 pp. Doubleday. $27.95.

Not the Jonah Goldberg from Toronto who looked like Jerry Garcia and rode
an electric assist trike like a maniac in traffic, I see. I wonder what he
is up to?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

I think our "broke his rear view mirror" Goldberg is Joshua, not Jonah.

gotbent, AKA FRVT Rider



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On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:42:33 -0600, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:
...
Mr. Sherman's education stops with the liberal blogs. He needs to read a
book recently published.

LIBERAL FASCISM
The Secret History of the American Left From Mussolini to the Politics of
Meaning.

By Jonah Goldberg.

487 pp. Doubleday. $27.95.

Not the Jonah Goldberg from Toronto who looked like Jerry Garcia and
rode an electric assist trike like a maniac in traffic, I see. I wonder
what he is up to?

No, that would be the Jonah Goldberg from "National Review", Bill
Buckley's rag until he became too reasonable for the New Right.

(oops, politics, sorry)


Bob
Just another nice basic flake.
(and old fart in training)

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
Edward Dolan wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Feb 19, 4:14 pm, Tom Sherman
wrote:
(who?) anonymously snipes:
[...]
As for Simon's claim of hypocrisy gone too far; his sig is complete
hypocrisy:
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it
from religious conviction." - Pascal
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.
Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit
of
the Russian proletariat either).
[...]

Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party. Lenin and Stalin were both
communist, the purest form of socialism. Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

Ricky is right and Sherman is wrong, but that is the way it always go
with liberal ideologues like him.

Hey Ed, I fixed the quotation hierarchy, since your Windows Mail fouled it
up yet again.

The problem is with the posts coming from Google Groups. But you can see
what happens when I don't supply quotation marks of my own. I will do so
from now on or else just write 'Edward Dolan wrote:'. All that matters is
that my words not be confused with anyone else's, not the hierarchy.

However, if I get messed up posts from other sources than Google Groups,
then and only then will I think about going to Mozilla Thunderbird.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Tom Sherman" wrote in message
...
(who?) anonymously snipes:
[...]
Simon's attempt to marginalize religion is offensive to me. After all,
the most evil men in the 20th century included Hitler, Stalin, Po Pot
(Soloth Sar), Lenin. They were all athiest and socialist, yet they all
murdered millions with cheer.
Hitler was a fascist, not a socialist. The "Night of the Long Knives"
was about purging the socialist element from the SA (and for practical
purposes from the Nazi Party). Hitler was also not an atheist.

Stalin, Lenin and Pol Pot were autocrats who only paid lip service to
communism. It is very likely that Lenin was in the service of people
whose main goal was to replace the Romanov's (and not for the benefit of
the Russian proletariat either).

Simon- You preach, yet you are a moral deginerate! Why don't you be
good Englishman and at least change your offending sig?

Mr. Sherman,

I beg to differ. Hitler ran his campaign on the National Socialist
Party, better known as the NAZI party.

Please familiarize yourself with the concept of false advertising. The
National Socialist German Workers Party was funded by rich industrialists
such as Fritz Thyssen [1]. Hitler had the socialist elements of the SA
purged (i.e. murdered), suppressed the trade unions and crushed workers
rights.

Lenin and Stalin were both communist, the purest form of socialism.

Oh, male bovine excrement. The only thing communist about the USSR was the
name. One group of oligarchs was replaced with another.

Ironic that people are
murdered when they give their freedoms away to socialism. BTW- I
don't give a rats butt if Hitler was a "Fascist", he ran as a
socialist and betrayed the foolish people that elected him. However,
I digress. Recumbents are cool!!!!

Please stop listening to right-wing pundits who lie about history, or
whatever source of misinformation you are using.

Leave it to Tom Sherman to make excuses for mass murderers. They all came
out of left wing (progressive) ideologies. But the only way they were able
to rule was by murdering everyone with whom they disagreed. Mr. Sherman
needs to read the history of the French Revolution to get an idea of how
these progressive ideologies work out in practice. Even the English were not
able to altogether escape the madness (Oliver Cromwell). It is not easy to
be a liberal after the events of the 20th century. Auschwitz anyone?

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Bob Landry" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:42:33 -0600, Tom Sherman
wrote:

Edward Dolan wrote:
...
Mr. Sherman's education stops with the liberal blogs. He needs to read a
book recently published.

LIBERAL FASCISM
The Secret History of the American Left From Mussolini to the Politics
of
Meaning.

By Jonah Goldberg.

487 pp. Doubleday. $27.95.

Not the Jonah Goldberg from Toronto who looked like Jerry Garcia and
rode an electric assist trike like a maniac in traffic, I see. I wonder
what he is up to?

No, that would be the Jonah Goldberg from "National Review", Bill
Buckley's rag until he became too reasonable for the New Right.

(oops, politics, sorry)

I enjoyed Bill Buckley in the good old days, but he is passé now. I think
what happens is that new technologies render all ideologies irrelevant
eventually. The advent of nuclear weapons and their proliferation puts a
whole new perspective on everything. So does global warming (if true) and
the increasing global economy. No ideology lasts forever. The New Right is
more correct now than the Old Right.

What is really pathetic though is the plight of liberalism. The welfare
state (European style) is OK, but you do not want to ever take it much
further than that. After all, there is still human nature to contend with
and that never changes!

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota