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Peter Signorini wrote: I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. Wow. Future children hey. Now thats seriously arrogant. Sorry Peter but it really is. |
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"Kathy" wrote: Peter Signorini wrote: I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. Wow. Future children hey. Now thats seriously arrogant. Sorry Peter but it really is. Arrogant????!! When I was 20, when the aforementioned accident occurred, I did actually intend to have a family in the _future_! Today I do actually have two happy kids who enjoy their bike riding, amongst other things. How exactly is this "seriously arrogant"? 'Cos I don't get your criticism. Cheers Peter |
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Peter Signorini wrote: "Bleve" wrote: There's dickheads in every group, no matter what they have as a common factor, beit motorcycling, bike riding, driving landbarges ... Yes, agree muchly. For what it's worth, I use a motorbike as my other transport (mainly pushbike, the MB gets a run every week or so when necessary to cover long distances faster than my pushy can go!). I don't endanger any cyclists when I ride it, and your calling motorbiking socially obnoxious is one I take offence to. I accept that it is a personal call about transport type, and as long as it's done responsibly I don't bitch too much. I'm not trying to make a generalisation against all motorcyclists, only those GP-wannabees who shave my elbow, crackling their ear-splitting exhausts. No offence meant to people on this group. Fair enough. I ride a motorbike because it's a lot less damaging to the environment than a car, but it's my compromise to practicality. It's *more* responsible (or less irresponsible!) than a car. I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. Fair enough. I don't agree, but this isn't the place to argue that issue |
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"Peter Signorini" wrote in
: snip I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. So if a friend was killed riding a bicycle you would give up bicycling ? What if a friend and their _family_ were killed driving a car, would you give up the car ? If a friend dies from chocking on a tomato, would you give up tomatoes ? If a friend jumps off a cliff, would you follow them ? If a friends wife kills him, would you divorce yours ? Surley the death of a friend gives you pause to reflect but if you have to modify your behaviour based on that incident, something systemic is wrong IMO. ie I guess I fail to see how it's "the motorcycles fault", as this appears to be where you have laid blame over your friends demise. The question is really only rhetorical, simply because I don't understand that mindset I ride for pleasure and to comute on both my motorbike and my MTB. Do I ride fast on my bike, no, that would be irresponsible, do I exceed the speed limit, sure 'enuff, very regularly. -- Trevor S "Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." -Albert Einstein |
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Trevor_S wrote I ride for pleasure and to comute on both my motorbike and my MTB. Do I ride fast on my bike, no, that would be irresponsible, do I exceed the speed limit, sure 'enuff, very regularly. Our 18 yr old twins recently got their P plates and accordingly have effectively a zero permitted blood alcohol level when driving. This may just be my ineptitude, but on reflection I am inclined to apply that policy whenever on 2 wheels, especially when they are powered. Its just that I noticed the other day riding home from work (after thank Allah its Friday drinks) that the reactions were slower and the lines through corners not as tight as I would have liked them to be. Probably under the legal limit, but skills not what they need to be in that environment. Will be sticking to red bulls without the vodka until the 2 wheels are parked for the day. best, Andrew |
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Random Data wrote:
On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:30:38 +0000, TimC wrote: I'll run with you Sssh, or Tam will give us ****. How far you going? Nice easy 50km? Tam |
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In aus.bicycle on Tue, 28 Feb 2006 23:19:28 GMT
Andrew Price wrote: Its just that I noticed the other day riding home from work (after thank Allah its Friday drinks) that the reactions were slower and the lines through corners not as tight as I would have liked them to be. Probably under the legal limit, but skills not what they need to be in that environment. I find that recognising impairment is a useful skill. Doesn't have to be alcohol. It can be flu, or fatigue. What made you realise the reactions were slow? What tipped you off? Zebee |
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Peter Signorini wrote:
I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. That's silly Peter. 1500 people died in cars in Oz last year, is that a reason for you to stop driving? Note also that I drive a Commodore, and I believe I drive it responsibly. I have two kids, and we often take trips with camping gear and bikes, so the space is valauble. Recently I have been commuting 2-5 days per week so the Commode/Stinkadore/etc doesn't clog the roads and air as much. I have often noted many disparaging comments from posters here about Commodore drivers but, until now, have not found it necessary to take them to task over any offence caused to me. Come on Peter, you can't drive a Commodore and not expect to get some stick. From Falcon drivers if no-one else. :-) Theo |
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Tamyka Bell wrote:
Random Data wrote: On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 21:30:38 +0000, TimC wrote: I'll run with you Sssh, or Tam will give us ****. How far you going? Nice easy 50km? Tam It wouldn't surprise me if Random Dave would find a 50km nice and easy. Provided you could prise him away from his bike. Not to sure about TimC... Parbs |
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Theo Bekkers Wrote: Peter Signorini wrote: I drive a car because I saw a friend get killed riding his motorbike. My personal view was that this was a more responsible decision for my family and future children. That's silly Peter. 1500 people died in cars in Oz last year, is that a reason for you to stop driving? Note also that I drive a Commodore, and I believe I drive it responsibly. I have two kids, and we often take trips with camping gear and bikes, so the space is valauble. Recently I have been commuting 2-5 days per week so the Commode/Stinkadore/etc doesn't clog the roads and air as much. I have often noted many disparaging comments from posters here about Commodore drivers but, until now, have not found it necessary to take them to task over any offence caused to me. Come on Peter, you can't drive a Commodore and not expect to get some stick. From Falcon drivers if no-one else. :-) Theo It's pretty natural to react differently when an accident claims a close friend than some news report about people you'll never know. It isn't correct from an acturarial point of view, but mixing death and close friends tends to widen the gap between perception and reality. Would I behave the same way? I hope I don't have to find out. Ritch PS. Commodores and their drivers are crap (perception = reality ) ) -- ritcho |
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