Where the cyclists in America belong: back alleys, gutters andsidewalks

On Apr 22, 10:38 am, wrote:
On Apr 22, 8:52 am, ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 21, 7:25 pm, wrote:

Even someone as fearful as you should be able to deal with the
occasional skinned knee. So again: quit whining.

I still remember that guy that cited statistics like you, only to be
killed by a drunk driver.

Yes, and I've had at least four friends killed while riding in motor
vehicles. I've had four close family members seriously injured in
car crashes, one of whom is mildly crippled for life.

For every bicycling fatality in the US, there are roughly 8 pedestrian
fatalities, roughly 60 motorist fatalities, and roughly 1000 heart
fatalities.

Yet you whine ONLY about the rare bike fatalities, or the
possibilities thereof. You go out of your way to make cycling sound
much more dangerous than it is.

Great way to discourage people from ever riding a bike. Who pays your
salary? Is it General Motors, or is it Exxon?

- Frank Krygowski

Frank, you are not very smart, or you are just playing dumb. I'm
saying IT'S A JUNGLE OUT THERE because I propose to fix it. That's why
I speak about "the revolution" and coming out of the jungle. You, on
the other hand, want to deny something so obvious that you look either
out of touch with reality or have an agenda in mind, and offer no hope
other than rider training or mental toughness. How about the stupid
drivers and the stupid traffic laws out there? Haven't you noticed the
few cyclists that dare commute to work in America (a pitiful .4% of
the total commuting population) mostly ride on the sidewalks? So *YOU*
are the one defending the status quo, one where GM and Exxon thrive,
one where size matters, and rats run for their lives...

The Art of Urban Cycling: Lessons from the Street

"The bicyclist is under attack from all directions - the streets are
ragged, the air is poison, and the drivers are angry. As if that
weren’t enough, the urban cyclist must carry the weight of history
along on every ride.
After a brief heyday at the turn of the twentieth century, American
cyclists fell out of the social consciousness, becoming an
afterthought when our cities were planned and built. Cyclists today
are left to navigate, like rats in a sewer, through a hard and
unsympathetic world that was not made for them. Yet, with the proper
attitude and a bit of knowledge, urban cyclists can thrive in this
hostile environment."

http://www.amazon.com/Art-Urban-Cycl...001352-1213502

And we need to fix the sewer...

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 11:39*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...
[...]

I knew you were the right kind of people when it comes to survival.

Gunner Ass is an asshole - and so are you!

You know, originally I was very anti gun, but then I realized that the

Swiss have more guns (not handguns) per capita than America. I think
the real issue is education, but I don't see anything happening in
that front either.

And you think Americans are in any way comparable to the civilized Swiss?

No, but they could be if there was the political will.


My girlfriend wants a handgun for the overnight canoe trips, but we'll

see. The worst predators out there are not criminals, but speeding
motorboats.

There is no way in this world an asshole like you could possibly have a girl
friend. What is she, some kind of freak from an insane asylum? The one thing
I know for sure is that I do not want an asshole like Gunner (he has murder
in his heart) and a poor crazy fool like you anywhere near guns. Instead of
posting nonsense to these honorable newsgroups, why don't you just go ****
yourself. Better yet, take that asshole Gunner with you. He knows all about
cocksucking so you should have lots of fun together.

And do you offer any *****ing* solution, old man? I think Alzheimer
has taken over your neurotic neurons.


He is just a bitter old ****, upset that no one gives him any respect,
not understanding that respect is earned, not given.

We simply give him amused contemt, and its driving him even farther
off the reservation because his (undeserved) self esteem is being
threatened.

Gunner


Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:24:48 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 9:34*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:33:27 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana





wrote:
On Apr 22, 2:49*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

What do you need to survive in the jungle?

- Knife (for peeling fruits)

- CD player (to block out noise from roaring lions)

Waste of space and batteries. *If you need music, an MP3 player is
much better, and most run off (2) AAA batteries, which may be
recharged from a simple solar cell charger. *Best get one with a radio
in it.

- Toilet paper (often toilets are out of them)

- Lipstics and mirror (ladies only)

Chapstick yes, wtf lipstick?????

In the cement jungle, ladies do their lips all the time. Too bad if
they don't see the cyclist.

Huh?



- Bananas (to eat, they can be dried)

They are good, but not all that good.

They say "it's the perfect food"...

They were wrong. *Beans and rice combined are the perfect food.
Bananas will keep you going for a very long time indeed, but you will
ultimately have issues with missing trace elements and amino acids.

I LOVE rice and beans, but I guess it would have to be brown rice to
be nutritious.

Brown rice doesnt store very well when unhulled, as the oils in it go
rancid far far too quickly. So it has to be stored in the freezer over
long periods, and after the power goes out...it goes rancid anyways.
Better some of the better white rices such as Jasmine etc. Rice is
starch and amino acids, which are complimentary to those in beans,
which have a VERY long storage life.

Well, it's always good. I want to dry foods for my canoe trips and
have somewhat successful, but I mostly do daytrips.

Where you may have rescue.

Yeah, no more than a mile away from shore.

Ayup. A PDF and some dog paddling and you are safe. You DO wear a
personal floatation device, correct?


Now what do you have stored at home or in your vehicle?

Can you manage 72 hours at 2 minutes notice? How about 3 weeks?

Nope. I don't see the case in preparing for WWIII.

Was Katrina WW3?
Was any of the massive floods last year, wild fires and so forth WW3?

3 weeks is about how long it takes Fema to get everyone in an effected
area taken care off with the necessities.
Toss in something nicely widespread, like the New Madrid fault letting
go, (its way way over due..and some quakes have been noted recently)
and you are well and truely ****ed if the incident is not reglegated
to your immediate neighborhood.

It costs very little to put up food, water, medical supplies, shelter
and so forth.

Far less than what you paid for that trike, if done intelligently. I
provided you with the links.

If you loose your job tommorow, how long can you live on your savings?
Assuming the bank remains solvent, the IRS doesnt freeze your accounts
etc etc.

Never been at the mercy of government agencies who **** up your
paperwork etc etc?
Get hit on that trike..and watch the fun start.

Been there, done that, had to survive for 6 months without an income.
Did it with my stored supplies, and kept my family fed.

We live in very uncertain times, both economically, and
geopolitically.

You may wish to reconsider your view. Shrug..your choice, your life.
Make your choices wisely. There usually isnt a "do over"

Gunner


Not all emergencies are caused by war.

I think we should work toward prevent it though.

Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional,
illogical liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an
unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

On Apr 23, 1:10*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Nope. I don't see the case in preparing for WWIII.

Was Katrina WW3?
Was any of the massive floods last year, wild fires and so forth WW3?

3 weeks is about how long it takes Fema to get everyone in an effected
area taken care off with the necessities.
Toss in something nicely widespread, like the New Madrid fault letting
go, (its way way over due..and some quakes have been noted recently)
and you are well and truely ****ed if the incident is not reglegated
to your immediate neighborhood.

It costs very little to put up food, water, medical supplies, shelter
and so forth.

Far less than what you paid for that trike, if done intelligently. I
provided you with the links.

If you loose your job tommorow, how long can you live on your savings?
Assuming the bank remains solvent, the IRS doesnt freeze your accounts
etc etc.

Never been at the mercy of government agencies who **** up your
paperwork etc etc?
Get hit on that trike..and watch the fun start.

Been there, done that, had to survive for 6 months without an income.
Did it with my stored supplies, and kept my family fed.

We live in very uncertain times, both economically, and
geopolitically.

You may wish to reconsider your view. *Shrug..your choice, your life.
Make your choices wisely. *There usually isnt a "do over"

Gunner

Not all emergencies are caused by war.

You made me think. I will pay attention to that. Thanks for the tips!

Hey, I mentioned before dried food... Have you done it? Isn't it a
great way to be ready?

ComandanteBanana wrote:
[...]Coops are the ideal in that there's no lion in
them.[...]

But coops are full of chickens.

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Gunner Asch wrote:
[...]
You seem to forget that Denial is not a river in Egypt.

Denial is a full-size SUV from GM, but they mistakenly transpose it as
"Denali".

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:24:48 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 9:34 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
[...]

Where you may have rescue.
Yeah, no more than a mile away from shore.

Ayup. A PDF and some dog paddling and you are safe.

So I should take my computer with Acrobat Writer when boating?

--
Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

v Is there a way to kill-filter both Dolan AND anyone
who responds to his trollery?

=x= I use Emacs with gnus, which gives me the full power of
Lisp for filtering. I killfile Dolan by his email address,
and use some cross-posting detection to ditch the threads.

=x= A more full-blown approach would be to keep track of
the "Message-ID" fields and killfile followups based on the
"References" and/or "In-Reply-To" fields. I did something
like that some years back, but decided that I needn't waste
all that overhead on some stupid trolls; so the above is
what I do these days.
_Jym_

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"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message
...
On Apr 22, 11:39 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...
[...]

I knew you were the right kind of people when it comes to survival.

Gunner Ass is an asshole - and so are you!

You know, originally I was very anti gun, but then I realized that the

Swiss have more guns (not handguns) per capita than America. I think
the real issue is education, but I don't see anything happening in
that front either.

And you think Americans are in any way comparable to the civilized Swiss?

No, but they could be if there was the political will.

**** the Swiss and all they represent in the world! Hitler should have
turned the whole place into a concentration camp for libertarians.

My girlfriend wants a handgun for the overnight canoe trips, but we'll

see. The worst predators out there are not criminals, but speeding
motorboats.

There is no way in this world an asshole like you could possibly have a
girl
friend. What is she, some kind of freak from an insane asylum? The one
thing
I know for sure is that I do not want an asshole like Gunner (he has
murder
in his heart) and a poor crazy fool like you anywhere near guns. Instead
of
posting nonsense to these honorable newsgroups, why don't you just go ****
yourself. Better yet, take that asshole Gunner with you. He knows all
about
cocksucking so you should have lots of fun together.

And do you offer any *****ing* solution, old man? I think Alzheimer
has taken over your neurotic neurons.

This from an asshole who equates human society with lions in the ****ing
jungle!

Why not post a picture of your girlfriend so the rest of us can have a good
laugh. Better yet, why not go on a canoe ride with old Gunner Ass,
preferably down a sewer where Gunner Ass can eat his turds and you can dream
about your long lost girlfriend, even though she has got to be one of this
world's champion freaks!

****ing Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT), ComandanteBanana
wrote:

On Apr 22, 11:39 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"ComandanteBanana" wrote in message

...
[...]

I knew you were the right kind of people when it comes to survival.

Gunner Ass is an asshole - and so are you!

You know, originally I was very anti gun, but then I realized that the

Swiss have more guns (not handguns) per capita than America. I think
the real issue is education, but I don't see anything happening in
that front either.

And you think Americans are in any way comparable to the civilized
Swiss?

No, but they could be if there was the political will.


My girlfriend wants a handgun for the overnight canoe trips, but we'll

see. The worst predators out there are not criminals, but speeding
motorboats.

There is no way in this world an asshole like you could possibly have a
girl
friend. What is she, some kind of freak from an insane asylum? The one
thing
I know for sure is that I do not want an asshole like Gunner (he has
murder
in his heart) and a poor crazy fool like you anywhere near guns. Instead
of
posting nonsense to these honorable newsgroups, why don't you just go
****
yourself. Better yet, take that asshole Gunner with you. He knows all
about
cocksucking so you should have lots of fun together.

And do you offer any *****ing* solution, old man? I think Alzheimer
has taken over your neurotic neurons.


He is just a bitter old ****, upset that no one gives him any respect,
not understanding that respect is earned, not given.

We simply give him amused contemt, and its driving him even farther
off the reservation because his (undeserved) self esteem is being
threatened.

Gunner


You're an idiot. A moron of the highest order. You're so stupid it's a
wonder you can remember to breath. Intelligent ideas bounce off your head as
if it were coated with teflon. Creative thoughts take alternate
transportation in order to avoid even being in the same state as you. If you
had an original thought it would die of loneliness before the hour was out.
On an intelligence scale of 1 to 10 (10 corresponding to the highest
attainable IQ) you're rating is so far into negative numbers that one would
need to travel into another quantum reality in order to even catch a distant
glimpse of it.

Your personality is that of a rabid chihuahua intent on
destroying its own tail. Your powers of observation are like that of the
bird who keeps slamming into the picture window trying to get that other
bird it keeps seeing. You are walking, talking proof that you don't have to
be sentient to survive, and that Barnum was thinking of you when he uttered
his immortal phrase regarding the birth of a sucker.

You are, at varying times, tedious, boring, earth shatteringly hilarious in
your idiocy,
childish, moronic, pathetic, wretched, disgusting and pitiful. You are
wholly without any redeeming social graces or value. If God ever decides to
give the planet an enema you'd better run like the wind because anywhere you
stand is a suitable place for The Insertion.

And you probably dress funny, too.

There is no animal so disgusting, so vile that it deserves comparison to
you, for even the lowest, dirtiest, most parasitic member of the animal
kingdom fills an ecological niche. You fill no niche.
To call you a parasite would be injurious to the thousands of honest
parasitic species. You are worse than vermin, for vermin does not pretend
to be what it is not. You are truly human garbage.

You are a fraudulent, lying, predatory charlatan. You are worthless
compared to burnt-out light bulbs. Your will forever live in shame. You
have nothing to say, and Godwin's Law does not apply when writing
about you.

You are the anti-Midas, for all that you touch becomes valueless and
unusable. Mothers gather their children close when you appear. You are
Nature's way of saying "&#%!!"

You should get a real job but you are unemployable. You misspell short words
and I doubt you can dance. You are as an oil slick upon a natural paradise.
You would proposition Jon Benet Ramsey, and seduce her with bogus lines.
You have made Tim Thorne look competent. You spoil everybody's day, and your
horoscope is rarely accurate.

You are an aberration, a corruption, a boil on the Net that needs to be
lanced. You are a poison we need to vomit. You are a tooth so rotten it
infects the whole body. You are sperm that should have been captured in a
condom and flushed down a toilet.

You are no fun, and you don't know how to post.
I don't like you. I don't like anybody who has as little respect for
others as you do. Go away.

You swine. You vulgar little maggot. You worthless bag of filth. As we say
on Earth. I'll bet you couldn't pour **** out of a boot with instructions
from your ex-CO. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would
rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.

You're a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm
deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a
weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a
revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.

You are a bleating foal, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared
richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth
into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody,
abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and
then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.

I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as
you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought
of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are
vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of
this earth. And did I mention you smell?

Try to edit your responses of unnecessary material before attempting to
empress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop
will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it
more rapidly. You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you
up,
drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to
fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame
of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea
of your own trite, foolish beliefs.

You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty
and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus.
Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are
unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that
reality
forgot.

And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements
of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you
hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more
weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle,
waiting for the bite of the snake?

You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and
obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living
emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease,
you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.

On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient
in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are
dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all
unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.

You smarmy lagerlout git. You bloody woofter sod. Bugger off, pillock.
You grotty wanking oik artless base-court apple-john. You clouted boggish
foot-licking twit. You dankish clack-dish plonker. You gormless
crook-pated tosser. You churlish boil-brained clotpole ponce. You
cockered bum-bailey poofter. You craven dewberry ****head cockup pratting
naff. You gob-kissing gleeking flap-mouthed coxcomb. You dread-bolted
fobbing beef-witted clapper-clawed flirt-gill.

You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate,
noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise
everything about you, and I wish you would go away.

I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard "I didn't
say a bad job I said a ****-POOR job" stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid.
Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole
different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid.
Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed.
Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Quantum singularity
stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid
in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your
writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this
stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang
of
stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else
as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go
on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.

After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough
strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments
about
unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. D'oh.

The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped
away most of your of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really
say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful.
I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of
babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have
learned to read, write, study, spell, and count, you will have more success.

True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take
for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes
forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these
things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I
would have never read your posts. It just wouldn't have been "right".
Sort of like parking in a handicap space.

I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that
seem to be placing such a demand on you.

P.S.:

You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly,
deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent,
opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted,
racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic,
insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine,
conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic,
spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb,
evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative,
paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic,
diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive,
dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim,
unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive,
mind-numbing, abrasive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive,
socially-retarded, and puerile.

****ing Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota