Critique requested

My co-worker has been hounding me to buy a Seven bike. Please critique
this little essay he sent me:

You're not a Seven person, Claire.

That's JMHO. I see you going to Breinigsville, PA, I see you on a
Spectrum bicycle.

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10 Oct 2003 13:08:26 -0700,
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(Claire Petersky) wrote:

Seven allows for a truly custom frame with the axiom not just limiting
a customer to tubelengths and handling characteristics but also tube
dimensions and butt placement.


Regarding your need for special proportions, perhaps you should try
out a frame in steel before committing the design to ti.
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zk

for the money, Sevens are a terrific value.....

also on the side of value is the longevity of Ti. most people complain
about the cost of Seven's, but in reality, they are not that bad
compared with other truly high performance bicycles.


Well, remember: It's your money. What do *you* consider to be a
"terrific value"?

plus, why would you want a couple of thousand dollars when you could
have a great bicycle instead.

Geez.
There's a local bike shop here that would LOVE to have more customers like
this guy.

"onefred" wrote in message
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My co-worker has been hounding me to buy a Seven bike.

Why should he hound you? What's in it for him?

He has no money. He thinks I do. If I buy one, he'd enjoy it vicariously.


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It appears that your pesky co-worker has already bought a Seven...

mine handles like a dream though.

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ride characteristics also vary with each frame... mine is on the
steel-like side.

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one gripe is that i asked for the bike to be set-up with DT shifter
bosses - not because i like the way the look or think they are more
accessible than STI braze-ons, but because i was actually planning to
use DT shifters! the boss was inserted so far up the downtube that not
only did it look funny, but my fingers would get caught in the brake
cable housing when i reached for the left shifter. i can theorize that
the reason was to place the boss at the thickest part of the butt, but
they could have run the butt longer to lower the boss.
another gripe is the ST H20 braze on. it's too high at midway down the
seattube. it looks odd, and i suppose it raises the bike's center of
gravity. this, i admit is getting nit-picky. i only wish that i had
thought about both of these issues (shifter boss & H20 boss) and told
Seven _exactly_ where i wanted them placed.

Overall rating reflects that this is indeed a solid bike and as good
if not better than any currently available. Still, i don't consider it
one of the truly great bikes of all time. Given the chance to buy it
again though, i'd do it without a second thought.

If he likes it, great. Tell him to go ride instead of bugging you about buying
one. You'd probably phrase it nicer than that though. Actually, it seems that
he's just looking for an excuse to talk about his new bike and there's nothing
wrong with that. Talking about bikes is what we do here, right? Well, *most* of
the time anyway.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

In rec.bicycles.misc Kevan Smith /\/\ wrote:
: She strikes me as more of a Heron or Waterford person.

yea, waterford is spot on.
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david reuteler

Claire,

I didn't work my way through your coworker's e-tome, but for me the most
compelling reason not to get a Seven would be that, for much less money
(IIRC), you could easily get a full-on custom Ti rig from Ti Cycles or
Davidson here in Seattle, or a couple of steel frames if you were so
inclined.

Think globally, TIG locally,

Trent

"trent gregory hill" wrote in message
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Claire,

I didn't work my way through your coworker's e-tome, but for me the most
compelling reason not to get a Seven would be that, for much less money
(IIRC), you could easily get a full-on custom Ti rig from Ti Cycles or
Davidson here in Seattle, or a couple of steel frames if you were so
inclined.

I will confess to not being 100% twitterpated with the Davidson tandem I
already own, and I am not also 100% twitterpated with the folks in the shop.
I have used Elliot Bay Cyclery as an emergency LBS when I have some problem
on the way to work, and frankly, I've had better service at the downtown
REI.

As for TiCycles, I've been in there a few times, and I have somewhere in the
filing cabinet here in the basement, a price list for various custom
bicycles they could make for me. What my co-worker Steve said was that
TiCycles are made in Portland anyway, so what's the diff between having
yourself measured here for a custom bike Seven would make, and the bike
TiCycles would make for you?

And no, he doesn't have a Seven now. Probably all this Seven propaganda is
from a friend of his who does.

Me, I'm not planning to buy *any* bike in the near future -- after the
unfortunate run-in with the garage, my trusty old Strada has a carbon fork,
new Ritchey headset, and new brakes, and I plan to ride it for quite a while
longer. Another co-worker of mine, though, has a litespeed, and she
tauntingly left it in her office on Friday while she was out. I went in
there and hefted it, and then threw my leg over it and sat on the saddle for
a bit. Good thing she's so much shorter than me and has look pedals --
otherwise she might not have had it there on Monday.

However, when my bike does get replaced, I plan to go custom -- my legs are
too long and my waist too short compared to everyone else, including most
women, and it'd be nice to have a custom fit. I'm not convinced it's got to
be something like a Seven, though.


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Warm Regards,


Claire Petersky
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"Claire Petersky" wrote in message
om...
My co-worker has been hounding me to buy a Seven bike. Please critique
this little essay he sent me:

snip lots of Seven Bikes drivel.

My sister just bought a Seven. Many riders in my Boston-area club ride them.
I've come to associate Ti bikes with middle-age crisis. She also bought a BMW
convertible. She was also talked into the Seven by someone else, in her case a
(now ex) boyfriend, using all the same techno-elite-consumer-babble. People
have waaaay too much money.

People have waaaay too much money.

And I thought I was splurging on new tires. What a world.

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